Thread: Rolclub New attempt to assist claim on your PIPS $$$.

YogiBrood... Thanks for any and all attempts to get our money back that was invested in the PIPS program years ago. I am a bit reluctant to invest any additional money into getting my PIPS investment back due to the large possibility that nothing will be returned but I do understand it takes $$$ to fight back what was taken from us all. I do want to help in any way that I can not just for myself but for all the others out there that lost lots more than I did! I do have emails and documentation of the transactions I made with PIPS and others connected to PIPS. Let me know what I can to support the effort!

Hi Yogi, for stating that "no one should be stepping on another toes" and that it will not be tolerated for we are all in the same boat. And I do agree that we need to get past any old animosities and move forward in a positive way. I strongly believe in karma and how it works. We need to work with each other inorder to be successful in this new attempt.

I wired over $6,000 to PIPS in August of 2004 (just before they stopped paying).

I can gather proof of my wires. Let me know what else I need to do.

Doug



Edit: Yes Doug, secure them in their original state which also shows the relevant dates and times of the transaction going to its destination, BM's PicPay Bank back then. Please stay active and posts helpful experience you went through with the membership and this will keep you ahead and updated without much hinder. - YB.

First of all I would like to express my sincere thanks to YogiBrood. I have located my bank transfer receipts to BM's PicPay Account and I am ready to do whatever necessary to be a part of this effort. Thanks again!

Edit: My pleasure and read the posts starting from page one for you will then soon grasp what you need to prepare and stay active with the many exchanges already posted. Don't miss out for this is the opportunity you shouldn't want to miss again. Visit often and share your thoughts too, empower your efforts and only you can make it for your part of the participation. You made an effort to look up your receipts, don't stop there.... - YB.

You have given my state of depression a great uplift. I feel so depressed about a couple of my downline who looked forward to much needed additional income but sadly I have been to one of the funerals & last contact with another was "I'm loosing my rented place, my mother is not at all well & my health is failing rapidly".
I do have all my Pips records so will be able to reconstruct my file of several deposits.
I am so pleased to get reconnected with a forum with relevant info. since suffering at least 2 computer crashes since last contact.

Edit: Good to note your determination already put in place so, don't stop there and visit this thread often and you can decide your place for sure within the list of Claimants on pour next attempt to recover somewhere, somehow, someday in the future. - YB.

[QUOTE=Fastpip12;861632]Hi YB, thank you so much for the offer of help to try and recoup our money. Count me in definitely, I lost quite a lot to PIPS. As you said "Not in or from Malaysia, that is a closed chapter and the Malaysian Authorities made sure of that through their Legal system and Judicial Courts of that country." I am surprised that the Bank didn't get in touch with members about filing claims and I wonder what they intend to do with the rest of the money they seized, surely they wouldn't be keeping it, as that would be hypocritical since they put Bryan Marsden in prison for doing just that.

Despite many emails, calls, and postal letters to Bank Negara, I was only just recently contacted by them to inform me that the claims were still ongoing and to contact the Seremban Court direct. The Court advised me to find a Malaysian Lawyer to represent me. One I did contact, told me there is a 6 year limit in submitting a claim from when I discovered the fraud, so I am at present in limbo.

I just wondered if the 18 members who were refunded, were they all a part of your group or were some just acting independently?



Edit: That's remarkable what you attempted to do but why didn't you share this with us back then? You could easily have been included with the Group of 18 Claimants for what you went through until something stopped you in your tracks!!!

HI YB
In reply to your question why did I not share this with you back then, I did ask on the forum how to make a claim and was told it was too late. I also PM'd Admin to ask who the group of 18's Lawyers were so I could contact them too, but I didn't get a reply, so that is why I tried contacting the Bank myself. I really would have preferred to join in with others.

Is it definitely not possible now to use those same lawyers in Malaysia, or is it entirely out of the question, and we should try other methods of tracing Bryan's whereabouts?

Hi Micky, yes it does seem odd and unfair not to be able to get the money back from Malaysia, and it would be great to use the same lawyers again (if they were willing) but I expect YB will explain more about this in a future post. I suppose around June 2011 would be 6 years for me anyway. I last downloaded details of my account around 24 June 2005....and then the site was gone!

Hi, All

I would be interested. I did not know anyone was trying anything, nor did I know the court proceedings were over.

Let me know what needs be done, then I'll see if I can afford to proceed.

Rik

Edit: At the moment, its actually left to you for a start. Show yr active part for any serious participation and time will soon tell on what you actually wish to do or be with in pursuing with the serious group of participants. I suggest you read and reread whats already exchanged to read between the lines too on just what is heading your way to realize what needs to be done first & foremost by your side. - YB.

Originally Posted by Fastpip12

Edit: That's remarkable what you attempted to do but why didn't you share this with us back then? You could easily have been included with the Group of 18 Claimants for what you went through until something stopped you in your tracks!!!

HI YB
In reply to your question why did I not share this with you back then, I did ask on the forum how to make a claim and was told it was too late. I also PM'd Admin to ask who the group of 18's Lawyers were so I could contact them too, but I didn't get a reply, so that is why I tried contacting the Bank myself. I really would have preferred to join in with others.

Is it definitely not possible now to use those same lawyers in Malaysia, or is it entirely out of the question, and we should try other methods of tracing Bryan's whereabouts?

I'm sorry if Admin did not get to answer your PM query. He has been away I was informed and often resulting from his medical commitment at the Facility where he continues hois advance stages on the faculty he's following.
I can assume, based on yr revelations, that you probably was at the point when you need to raise and ,make contact which was already in a developed level where the Lawyers will entertain no other party or individual other than the agreed group which was arranged much earlier. Hence, Even if I came to know of your query, I could see no prospects for the lawyer to accept you based on several factors which I am aware that took place and there is no way anyone can come in between and be listed or be attended to separately.
Even at the worst possible miracle given, with the group accepting you suddenly to join in at a late stage, I know that none would approve nor accept a sudden outsider to slide in and share the lion's payout refund. Its human nature as well to act this way. I cannot condemn nor condone this attitude because, its in US in whatever we do or wherever we are involved with whatever.
Therefore, I am aware and will try to minimize this character kind by giving this opportunity to the next feasible attempt and whoever is seriously interested to cooperate, participate and go hand in hand with all other listed rightful claimants, and anyone that ignores this from the very start but shows up at a later stage, when the going is good and also promising, you bet, after all that has been pursued and involved exhausting efforts with costs, most if not all will not welcome outsiders to jump in the queue as convenience. That's human nature and I can see that happening for sure but I will do what I can to prevent or minimize it from happening.

That is why, i will repeat often about reading and interactive participation here with every one involved as listed. Failing to do so, heightens one's lack of keeping up with the updates and knowledge of whats taking place and what is further expected to be known and how to keep in pace with the developments.

Whoever you are that is now visiting the forum, often or for the first time since a long time ago, please heed my advise and don't snub it because you will soon be the one that will displace yourself in the long run and I know what I'm saying here. Remember, if you are NOT in eventually, that is because, you somehow caused that by your own actions, I won't be the one responsible nor will the others too.

In this collective stride for a positive outcome, we need ALL hands on board and being fully aware and consistently. That's where the strength is sustain for those who stay and follow regularly and play interactive with the rest.

With the new Claimant Group List I will create soon, your strength as a united group is strengthened and assured when you know each other better with the posts exchanged and handing or lending a hand is a deed one find only within a family group. Knowing each other well doesn't mean facing or dating each other or exchanging photos across the forum.... if you want to do that, do it and the rest don't need to know about it, its your private affair but when focusing on this attempt to claim your Monies someday, its a combine effort and I wish and hope that as MANY of you out there get that chance this time but it has to be done in a respectful manner too.

That was also a successful formula we upheld with the 18 eventual Claimants from the Malaysian claim. - YB.

I AM HAPPY TO COOPERATE

Thanks to YogiBrood and other Rolclub admin/s for showing us a faith in humanity, for having a dignity and integrity to inform us regarding PiPs and Bryan Marsden.
Glad to be back with RolClub

Edit: Welcome back and if you wish to be active in participating with your side of facts and experiences, however uncomfortable it may have been, at least you are not alone in here. - YB.