Thread: Rolclub New attempt to assist claim on your PIPS $$$.

Hi YB,

I appreciate all that you are doing on our behalf….keep up the good work


Regards
Bulan

Here is another situation for would-be Claimants to consider.

Hi YB, I registered a few other people from my funds at the time….do you need to know the names of these people and their sign in....


Hi RC Member,

ROLClub username overrides as default and not or any of the PIPS login details as they don't exists (legally speaking). Hence, your ROLClub username is the one to reflect our handling as reference here.

Concerning others, If you so choose to become their proxy in all the claims and they agree to it, why not? Otherwise, any transacted amount showing them as the actual beneficiary to the monies refunded/disbursed, would be considered as a separate claim and only they have the right to the Refund as individual Claimants.

Discuss with them and if you feel less messy down this option, then they had better register first and foremost with ROLClub Forum before anything else can proceed. Your own claim status remains unchanged.

Full name: RC Member
Rolclub username: RC Member
Method of transfer (PicPay,E-Gold,Bank,CC etc...): No info found
Amount ($0000 USD or yr local currency): No records found, however I am an investor. I lived through all this mess.

Please advise on whether or not you can find my records with my past address and name. I appreciate your help.

Hi RC Member,

Our next attempt will stay in pursuit based similarly on the first attempt which fortunately proved a success.

ROLClub as such, is a forum on the Net and fundamentally is not in the business of getting involved with Legal proceedings.
We can and will pursue a path in assisting and helping manage the initial stages that will eventually be left and taken over by the approve offices of a reliable and dedicated Law Office to represent the cause.

Until such time can be determined, all our efforts are based on Members own evidence and documentation that are readily available for submission to qualify acceptance for approval to a Claim or claims as proxy for others on their behalf.

We are not an "investigative" body nor is in any position to undertake such a task, we are a Forum where all issues are discussed for exploitation. the gathering & collection of physical proof has to be borne by the individuals themselves without any obligation to the forum.

I will list you only if and when I am given the assurance from you that you can substantiate some physical proof like printed documents etc with or through the Bank, pdf etc...

YB.

Originally Posted by RC Member

When i sent you my details for refund,on the method of payment i did put my card number not the bank acc. no, i don't no if its ok or not.

Neither nrs. is actually relevant to us during the process. Besides, we did NOT ask about your bank details, just the method of Transfer. It will be verified again (by you at a later stage) when such specific details are needed when the Lawyer (s) Office requires them otherwise you won't ever receive your refund when transfers are executed.

I agree with you Yogi, there is strength in numbers. I am hitting various forums passing the word about our next attempt. Hopefully people will take me seriously.

That is a great move & initiative contributed.

For those diligently reading the posts, I hope you all understand that it is my hope and wish that we get a high number possible, touching the 3-nines if you will because, this is going to be slightly different and MUCH MORE challenging than the 1st attempt and raising hopes is one good thing but without true numbers to back the scope & claims, it can become "costly" in whichever way you look at it so, with a HUGE number to represent, so is our bargaining (which is partly involved as always with darn lawyers!!!) strategy strengthened as well... so Claimants & numbers!!! is our primary goal at this moment.

We worry about the fees and funding for later... I want it to be far less this time round than what the 18 Claimants went through and had to put up with....

YB.

Thanks for the opportunity and information. Count me in.

Staying the course! Thanks YB

ROLClub as such, is a forum on the Net and fundamentally is not in the business of getting involved with Legal proceedings.
We can and will pursue a path in assisting and helping manage the initial stages that will eventually be left and taken over by the approve officers of a reliable and dedicated Law Office to represent the cause.

Until such time can it be determined, all our efforts are based on Members own evidence and documentation that are readily available for submission to qualify acceptance for approval to a Claim or claims as proxy for others on their behalf.

We, ROLCLub Forum, is not an "investigative" body nor is in any position to undertake such a task, we are a Forum where all issues are discussed for exploitation. The gathering & collection of physical proof has to be borne& presented by the said individuals themselves without any obligation to the forum. It is undoubtedly a voluntary undertaking, if you have any, you DO IT or you DON'T, plain & simple.

You will be listed only if and when you can give the assurance that you still have or can substantiate some physical proof like printed documents etc with or through the Bank, pdf etc... You don't have to prove it to YogiBrood, it is for the Lawyers when they inevitably need to file it in preparation for presenting YOURS and others with the claim.

We don't nor plan to head-start without any funds, and assign someone, plucked out of the blue and assign him/her to some authorities making claims (with/without Legal representation) and demanding that they (those suspected of having YOUR money albeit impounded or not from Bryan Marsden) should start the ball rolling etc... WHO's going to fund this for a start and how do you plan to go about with this undertaking with an empty budget?

Hi RC Member,

This is an interesting mail from you which I shall address it but within the Forum so others will gain from knowing it.

Please look it up at the forum thread instead.

YB.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:18 PM, <RC Member> wrote:

YB,

Usually when these issues go to legal, the legal and bookeeping is able to ascertain who is involved and the records will show each investors (suckers) involvement. What I'm saying is that if you are going through the process, my records will show up. I don't remember how much I put in, why would I? Its been years and I can't keep all records. All we heard was BM was charged, jailed and he should still be there. It sounded like it was done.

Please tell me why you think my records can't be found. Legally the records will show up, if the BM books are being looked at. I'll have to wait for that and I trust you can accommodate me on this.

Thanks

I. M.

You are right to a certain point in perceiving it that way, nothing out of the ordinary. However, Malaysia and the circumstances there which took place was just an unusual situation where only the Authorities there can give and stand by with their argument in carrying out the way THEY see fit and we have no say nor influence to change their minds.

In any country, one always face the good, bad and much more ugly side of things and this may be one of them .

Your records MAY BE there and archived or destroyed.... its anyone's guess but the other thing is, the case and trial of BM and his imprisonment, however short than deserving, is a CLOSED case and by that, whoever and whatever other means is needed to undo the trial and delve deeper into the Bank's controversial history involving the impounding of all assets & properties related to BM and his company, was carried out under their Laws they have & execute over there.

After experiencing the process that confronted the first attempt, I can safely add that it is NOT the way you thought should have worked out where the public can allege and the Authorities have to prove they are themselves guilty and so should be the ones to disprove the guilt by presenting whatever they have, to prove they are not.... I'm afraid, it didn't work that way and that is not likely to change either.

It's a Muslim country, and that is one BIG factor to bear in mind and what they want or say and think.... goes according to how they see it fit & proper with their final ruling on any matters. Even the Lawyers and the Justice system is governed by this manner which runs through the veins of that country.

I am sure your proof is somewhere there but due to your membership with RC and probable distancing or staying away from the developments that took place concerning the Trial Coverage, you made that choice and defaulted yourself with any possibility you were given to get on board, when we launched it end of 2006 until the final months in 2010 and culminating with the refund payouts in early Spring 2011.
Now that it is over and done with, we have to move forward and those that missed the boat the first time round, still have a good chance again but it will be on another turf, somewhere else i.e. outside Malaysia.

I can't answer WHERE that might be as it is too early now to predict or speculate but then again, ROLClub is not going down that lane to stir up out of nothing or without any strong movement building up first & foremost.

This needs time and good, careful consolidation among the strength and size of members wanting to be part of it and someday, we might just get to see it being fought out through a reliable Court in a country where BM can be legally indicted again and be charged for scamming all of you.

YB.

thank you so much for your help i hope we will get our money back thanks again chicken salad

Originally Posted by CHICKENSALAD

thank you so much for your help i hope we will get our money back thanks again chicken salad

U R welcome and that depends on how "many" claimants make up the sauce for the appetizing salad of yours!!! LoL....

Yes, lets hope we will by end July get to see a significant list compiled and I will have Stage TWO set in and hopefully, many can throw in their warm towels with interaction as we begin a strategy, so be prepared and pen down your thoughts, suggestions, tips and whatever else YOU may have in the meantime from last week to end July, have done for your part to accumulate any helpful contributions to share with the rest as we discuss the Next Attempt.

In the meantime, enjoy the sun or rain wherever ALL of YOU may be at... the summertime is also needed to be enjoyed as a holiday break!!!


YB.

Hi Everyone,

I am one of the pioneer who join the Pureinvestor when it was $25 investment, but it gone far away from the original scheme. My point is, there's nothing I can prove my payment except for Picpay transaction notifications received from the system.

One more I have to point out and to consider.... there are members who paid in bank but already recoup there initial investment in PIPS, how will the bank knows if they will not dig the records, who are eligible to receive refunds. In the other hand, Picpay is like a bank of PIPS same like paypal, e-gold, etc.... In my personal thought, monies in our account should be return to the owner or depositors. There are withdrawals in my account until the company close down.

Hope it will be considered in our claims.. and more power to the group esp. to YB.

thx