Thread: BTI information

Originally Posted by champ

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"Just makes ya go, "hmmmm..."

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"So you know.. the group I am talking about had recommended that PIPS be investigated with the recommendation that an interim manager be put into place..

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Sounds like they were requesting a blatant take-over of Bryan's company..."Hmmm..."


"Hmmm," any dot-connecting here folks? Just makes ya go, "Hmmm..."

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I'm backing Bryan and PIPS all the way...

8) Just makes ya go, "Hmmm..."

Originally Posted by champ

Hopefully to those members and merchants who sent the letter, and to any other member who "wants out," my hope is that Bryan will give them their initial loans back, close their accounts, get them on their way and get on with the restructuring for those of us who believe in PIPS and elect to stay

I hope so too

Originally Posted by champ

These are dots that Bryan and probably only a few very "trusted" associates would have

Let's hope he have some associates left he realy can trust....

Originally Posted by Wolf

Originally Posted by champ

Hopefully to those members and merchants who sent the letter, and to any other member who "wants out," my hope is that Bryan will give them their initial loans back, close their accounts, get them on their way and get on with the restructuring for those of us who believe in PIPS and elect to stay

I hope so too

Originally Posted by champ

These are dots that Bryan and probably only a few very "trusted" associates would have

Let's hope he have some associates left he realy can trust....

I agree, I hope there are associates that can help Bryan finalize and bring to conclusion this whole ordeal.

I'm behind Bryan all the way too!

Originally Posted by sailingdom

Originally Posted by champ

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I'm backing Bryan and PIPS all the way...

Hmmmmmmmmmm I'm in agreement with you mate

Me too.

Maybe we need to employ some of their own tactics, infiltrate them so they don't know who to trust.

Just a thought, they like to brag to each other about who they know, what they know and where their information comes from, I'm talking about the minions now who carry out the tasks for them and believe every thing they say.

Sounds like this is starting to get out of hand. Time to lock this thread and for people to chill out a little before speculations and opinions and interpretations cause problems.

Originally Posted by velvetpatches

It's sad that someone feels the necessity to charge members to join their forum especially when many just don't have the funds and already paid previously for a lifetime membership in the previous organization, a name change shouldn't null and void the previous "contract."

MLM's are generally losers for those at the bottom of the pile, unfortunately.

I wish all success, though I'm afraid I think many are foolish to pay to get into a forum where the programs offered are generally available to others for free.

VP

Most mlm companys are generally losers for those at the bottom of the pile, not all...

I for once have found a company were everyone will make profit.

Originally Posted by robeo

Sounds like this is starting to get out of hand. Time to lock this thread and for people to chill out a little before speculations and opinions and interpretations cause problems.

In this situation with the HQ site(s) down I think it's only fair that our members get the comfort and solace of being able to get facts/rumours/thoughts from other PIPS sites.
We are not doing them any harm. A discussion among friends must be acceptable......

When the sites are up again and matters have been resolved we will be a lot stricter....

Originally Posted by Shell

Originally Posted by robeo

Sounds like this is starting to get out of hand. Time to lock this thread and for people to chill out a little before speculations and opinions and interpretations cause problems.

In this situation with the HQ site(s) down I think it's only fair that our members get the comfort and solace of being able to get facts/rumours/thoughts from other PIPS sites.
We are not doing them any harm. A discussion among friends must be acceptable......

When the sites are up again and matters have been resolved we will be a lot stricter....

Well heaven forbid someone try to get the conversation on a more openminded or constructive path instead of a slanderous one.

So be it though, the Mod has spoken. [/b]

robeo wrote:Sounds like this is starting to get out of hand. Time to lock this thread and for people to chill out a little before speculations and opinions and interpretations cause problems.

Robeo,
Things (speculations and opinions and interpretations) have gotten "out of hand" and it didn't start here, in this thread.

We members are in the situation we are in because of the "people causing problems." They know who they are! We know who some of them are as well.

The truth will prevail. I have full faith the Bryan will take care of business, and, overcome those trying to bring him and his companies and "dream" down. There isn't anyone but, Bryan that I would trust to handle my loan.

VP

For those that would like to paint people that tell the truth as slanderers.
Here's an update that states exactly what Billy thought/thinks (this is word for word what he updated in the last 48 hours from this post) regarding the complaints sent to the bank in Maylasia.

Notice how he turns everything Bryan has supposedly said into a super negative. And, notice how he mentions NEW MANAGEMENT!
VP

AS IS:

I wanted to get this out to you quickly because so much speculation and
misinformation tends to keep floating around regarding PIPS in it's
current state. Some information says that Bryan and Sharon have been
arrested and is totally negative,, while others were putting out
information that they though PIPS would be back online and operating early
this week... and have a new payment platform ready to start and hundreds of
millions of dollars that they are about to have released to them to get
members paid... WRONG WRONG WRONG... people on both ends of the extreme
tend to be just that..... EXTREME... I just wanted to give everyone a
brief update.. and then again we hope for the best..plan for the
alternative.. and move forward knowing that if Bryan manages to pull PIPS
forward in one way, shape or form, it will still be in our group of
programs.. but we will have enhanced it with diversification and if the
worst happens.. we are moving forward and it becomes more of a
disappointing annoyance rather than a devastating blow.
Anyway..rather than saying that I have it from a knowledgeable source...
I will start with this .....Bryan Marsden called me last night. Yes that
is right and it was a surprise..but I got to speak with him for a while.
We had a reasonably good conversation and he gave me an update on where
everything stands and wanted members to know that he is working diligently
this week to see what he can do to get things done to preserve what can be
preserved and see if he can get a restructuring approved by Bank Negara so
that the enterprise can move forward in an altered form with the
permissi on of Bank Negara.
As I said. the conversation was a bit generalized but I anticipate being
able to speak with Bryan again this week to follow up and try to keep
informed on what is going on. This email will be general and later this
evening I will try to give a bit more specific information but that
information will need to be private and will therefore only be able to be
placed in the members area of the BreakThroughs site. However this email
and other follow ups WILL be enough to keep you pretty much up to date on
what I learn from Bryan if he continues contact with me.
OK.. General update... Again.. to be simple about it.. it is that my
updates of the 18th and 19th ( actually both the 18th I think) were on the
mark and a good summary of what the current status is. Here are some
other Facts as Bryan stated them
1. He has not been arrested . When I asked if he had been arrested. he
said "Well I bloody well couldn't be calling you right now if I had"
2. The servers have been taken...and PIPS and PicPay and PIPS AID are all
down... Negara wants to go through the records on the servers to see
if there in fact have been any violations or anything to validate
claims made in Letters to Bank Negara. Bryan was looking to meet with
them today and throughout the week to show cooperation with the
investigation and also to see if the servers could be put back online
during any investigation so that other areas of the business will not be
negatively impacted as PicPay and PIPS would be thoroughly gone through.
No new members taken and those areas staying down while Bryan could work
with Bank Negara to answer questions .. make sure they fully understand it
and then explore the restructuring that he would like to propose to see if
it could meet approval.
3. Some people were reporting that PIPS would be back online this week I
asked Bryan and he said that is highly unlikely. He would hope he got get
them to put servers back online this week but he will not venture what the
odds would be and said that we can't count on it.
4. He was terribly upset at the prospect that after speaking with me ..the
next thing he had to do was meet with the staff and furlough them until
further notice
We talked a bit about the various divisions and I asked him about the
restaurant development and real estate purchases etc about funds frozen
with processors and banks etc and in general terms that is still a
problem and as he saw it was still the primary problem that exists that
hampered getting payments to members. I also addressed the PicPay and
merchant problems that had caused some of this action and how just more
communication could have possibly prevented a good amount of this.. but
that was more conversational rather than a "tongue lashing" of any sort.
I would like to see something salvaged of this so a restructured business
could continue and provide benefit to the members.
5. Bryan hopes that in meeting with Bank Negara and answering questions
and educating them as to all the details of how funds were spent/invested,
the problems and challenges faced, the viable and profitable divisions
that have been built and how everything at present could be restructured
to satisfy the issues and solve the problems that had been Plaguing PIPS
that and do it all with the approval of Bank Negara. However there is no
telling at this point what will happen.
It is in Bank Negara's hands right now.. Bryan said it could take
weeks.. it could take months depending on how meetings go with them and
what they decide is their posture on what they desire the outcome to be.
So don't look for any quick solutions.. don't believe that there is a
payment platform ready to go .. with funds soon to be released.. ( Bryan
said that he doesn't know where that information or any of those figures
are coming from and that it is total misinformation)..
Bryan said that all that can really be said is that things are in Bank
Negara's hands right now and he is working diligently to resolve the
issues.. get the servers back online even if only to serve the related
businesses so that they their records and operating systems. and that he
will do everything in his power to work see if the enterprise can be
preserved.
It is my opinion that if a restructuring, compliant with Bank Negara and
requiring no further funding from members could be put in place, and that
Bryan is convinced he can do it.. under the supervision of Bank Negara I
would like to see him get a shot at it. As we know, that would probably
require the assistance of consultants, possibly new management etc.. all
things put in place to ensure compliance etc. Actually it is possible
that if members were to dash of a quick note to Bank Negara in support of
some bank supervised restructuring in the interest of members recovering
losses and and having some ongoing enterprise that is transparent and
compliant and can be structured to the benefit of all involved, perhaps
there is positive that could come from all this. Those who had real
problems got to write Bank Negara and rightfully so. but perhaps those
who support restructure should have voices heard with them too. Always
good to get both sides right?
I will see if I can provide the appropriate information later this
evening in the members area or more likely the FORUM of BreakThroughs
later this evening. Please don't write me and ask me for it as I have
been receiving hundreds and hundreds of emails lately and cannot respond
to any request if you do make one..
Now remember.. even if you choose to dash something off in support of
restructure or read this and get concerned.. do it and then GET OFF IT
an d move to productive things.. IT IS WHAT IT IS and we have to
continue to diversify...
Thanks again.
Bil