Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Originally Posted by chris5545

I can understand where guest1 is coming from but i understand something else. I feel we are in a room filled with cockroaches in total darkness. And the light switch was about to be turned on all of the way. Do you know what happens when you turn on the light with cockroaches? They run back into all of the cracks and crevices from which they came. I say we continue on but carefully.

Wow, that was very good point Chris.

Originally Posted by chris5545

I can understand where guest1 is coming from but i understand something else. I feel we are in a room filled with cockroaches in total darkness. And the light switch was about to be turned on all of the way. Do you know what happens when you turn on the light with cockroaches? They run back into all of the cracks and crevices from which they came. I say we continue on but carefully.

Nice said and I hope you're right chris :). I would go for it... but indeed carefully.

Guest1, azmia,... If one way turns out to be not the best way to achieve your goal... don't abandon that goal but go looking for a better way! Why haven't you considered yet to go private and put all your peaces together in a much closer circle, with only those pipsters who have been contributing here so much of value? Then, you can still allow others to join as far as you think you can rely on them. Just my thoughts - hopes. I would be much more happy knowing you're working somewhere unseen than knowing you're gone...
Otherwise... I hope you'll remain at least of assistance to Arc & C° behind the scenes with their gathering of facts and history.

Take care,
Hasse

Can't speak for the others Hasse but I have been collecting things for over a year now, or better said, since November of 2004 when I started to notice things were not quite right at Pips.
I am somewhat amazed at the lack of curiosity regarding what was posted. I would have thought that a word of warning would have come from this forum NOT to do that kind of thing ..... or....... better still, ask the poster to take his post off the forum in question.

I will be extremely sorry if this thread does not continue...I heard about P**S in February, 05 and invested in late March, 05 with just the minimum for an account. Yes, I read all the descension or as much of it as I could make sense out of at first, but my gut told me this was legit. I'd never before or since done anything like this.

I can't tell you all how much this has meant for me to have some explanations/facts presented on the history of where we have wound up. I am so on board with the humanitarian aspect of this program that it sickens me that it wouldn't persevere on some level when the trash is cleared away.

I appreciate and thank all who have stepped up to contribute to this discussion and could read through this a number of times and still not catch all the info being given. However, the underlying theme, tone and picture is certainly not lost in the barrage of details. To be honest, details were not what I was after anyway and I'm usually such a detailed person...I was looking for the assurance that we aren't through yet; albeit perhaps a different picture than we once were hoping for, still a picture waiting to be painted.

I don't know what position most of you are in, what problems may or may not be caused, what underlying concerns you have...but, I personally would love to see this thread continued to it's conclusion; however, not to the detriment of the better whole.

Originally Posted by guest1

I would have thought that a word of warning would have come from this forum NOT to do that kind of thing ..... or....... better still, ask the poster to take his post off the forum in question.

WHO is the cut and paster? If you know, feel free to PM me. I will do what I can, which is not likely much. If I have erred in not posting a warning "not to cut and paste from this thread", please accept my apologies. However, in an open environment that we hope is populated with intelligent adults there is not really anything that can be done to prevent these kinds of things from happening. I'm not excusing what happened but I am at a loss how to prevent it...

Everwiser

Originally Posted by Gracie

I will be extremely sorry if this thread does not continue...I heard about P**S in February, 05 and invested in late March, 05 with just the minimum for an account. Yes, I read all the descension or as much of it as I could make sense out of at first, but my gut told me this was legit. I'd never before or since done anything like this.

I can't tell you all how much this has meant for me to have some explanations/facts presented on the history of where we have wound up. I am so on board with the humanitarian aspect of this program that it sickens me that it wouldn't persevere on some level when the trash is cleared away.

I appreciate and thank all who have stepped up to contribute to this discussion and could read through this a number of times and still not catch all the info being given. However, the underlying theme, tone and picture is certainly not lost in the barrage of details. To be honest, details were not what I was after anyway and I'm usually such a detailed person...I was looking for the assurance that we aren't through yet; albeit perhaps a different picture than we once were hoping for, still a picture waiting to be painted.

I don't know what position most of you are in, what problems may or may not be caused, what underlying concerns you have...but, I personally would love to see this thread continued to it's conclusion; however, not to the detriment of the better whole.

Thank you, Gracie!

Why not put up a post that nothing is to be copied and pasted.
Then when they do , We will see it on another forum .
Then report that forum to thier ISP and have them shut down.
Or do some of you have a better idea how to stop this?
There has to be a way.
It would be a shame to quit this now when so many of us need it,
I say we have to fight dirt with dirt .
jer

Originally Posted by everwiser

WHO is the cut and paster? If you know, feel free to PM me. I will do what I can, which is not likely much. If I have erred in not posting a warning "not to cut and paste from this thread", please accept my apologies. However, in an open environment that we hope is populated with intelligent adults there is not really anything that can be done to prevent these kinds of things from happening. I'm not excusing what happened but I am at a loss how to prevent it...

Everwiser

I can understand your predicament. I do not have the least idea who the poster could be, unforuntately.

Originally Posted by guest1

I can understand your predicament. I do not have the least idea who the poster could be, unforuntately.

And therein lies the dilemna...Far too many people use different screennames everywhere they go on the internet. I guess they behave in such a way that they don't want people to know who they are...At least in this situation, it seems to be the case...

Everwiser

hope you guys don't stop contributing to this thread,as it is very informative and I daresay,important to see it through to the end.
I can't say I understand where you're coming from,as that would be a barefaced lie,but I always believe educating people is the most important service anyone can give.You will never reach all the misguided do-gooders,but you shouldn't let them discourage you either.
SO please reconsider your decision to withdraw from this conversation!!!