Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

There is an old parable but I can only remember the last line:

"The dogs may bark - but the caravan moves on"

So let the information & the PIPS caravan move on.

Guest1- Thanks for the nice reply The owner of TG should be shut down.
They sure are concerned about the truth coming out. I wonder why.
What goes around comes around. I just cant wait . jer

Night all - this old lady's hitting the sack! Hope to see a continuation of this discussion over the weekend. I've had such a peace about this program since I put in my two cents worth and I'm so glad to have found information that begins to make sense of all the contradicting bickering. I believe, in one form or another, it's going to all come around! Those responsible for this setback will be called out and the rest of us are going to have a great time! Thanks for the encouragement this thread has brought!

Originally Posted by Gracie

Night all - this old lady's hitting the sack! Hope to see a continuation of this discussion over the weekend. I've had such a peace about this program since I put in my two cents worth and I'm so glad to have found information that begins to make sense of all the contradicting bickering. I believe, in one form or another, it's going to all come around! Those responsible for this setback will be called out and the rest of us are going to have a great time! Thanks for the encouragement this thread has brought!

I fully agree with Gracie.
I have full belive that BM will come through all this hard times and we all true pipster will be winners.

Bryan is a honest man and he will bee back stronge than ever.

[quote=mmfast]Well then...

How about it, Paddyfield, 4dataxman, goldeneye, MichaelR, and others, will there be more posts of relevance or is this the end of the line?

The thought had crossed my mind several hundred posts back on this thread, that there would probably be those with obsessive cut and paste compulsions, the benefactors, being sites with an almost evil tenor found in every thread pertaining to P**S.

Will the facts displayed here actually have any weight with those, who hold for their tireless perusal, every byte of truly relevant information in all of the server/pc equipment? Wouldn't the cold, hard logic of historical data serve as a far better determinant than some copied and pasted documents which, until verified are no better than heresay anyway?

Surely Mia and Guest1 you are probably not to be disuaded, along with Dr. Who (Sorry Largo, just had to do it.hehe), but can we at least reach a general consensus on continuing the thread with certain safeguards?

Lloyd (mmfast)

Lloyd...I don't understand your message in the above quote...
Am I supposed to get a message or what...?

Please explain...english is not my native language...

Largo

There will always be people trying to distort that what we call ”the truth”. The question we have to face is the balance between the good and bad. I for one am convinced that we (or rather you Arc, 4D, Largo, Azmia, Paddy, guest1 and others) should continue; there is much more to gain then lose.

BNM is conducting an investigation, but I do think they are initially interested in questions relating to “what”; they are searching for specifics: is this info here or not etc. More related to yes or no. And remember they are just people searching for info.

This thread however is more related to “who” “when” “how” “why”, then compromising details. The benefits of the information given in this thread are far reaching, in two areas. First we have the general psychological consolidating effect; thus less people trying to do “stupid” inquires due to lack of facts etc. A more solid group. And secondly, I actually do think there is a possibility the information here will contribute in a positive way, pointing to specific areas for those conducting the investigation. We – as a group – have a mountain of info. Wouldn’t it be nice if some of this could work for us?

I don’t now if you have noticed but there has been very few “orks” in this thread; I hope you all understand why…

Well said, paddy!


Thank you Gracie, Jer and others. I for one will not backstep one pace.
Whatever harm befalls PIPs has already happened and anything new is not going to change matters untill the Bank have satisfied their own investigations, which you may consider at this stage, as a closed shop.
Your agitators are the hapless army of nuisance makers, people that phone the garbage people every week because the wheeler bin has not been dumped in exactly the same spot it was picked up from. Such people are your neighbours and friends, harmless in moderation untill they get that bee in their bonnet.
The same type of people take great pride in outdoing each other in whatever forum they frequent in order to stand out from the crowd, such heroics shortlived unless fed like an ulcerous growth. Mix in the deadbeats and no lifers, the bored and frustrated and you have a place called TG which mirrors on a grander scale, all forums.
Tactics my friends, to cause dispondency and fear, doubt and anger. As long as those people see a reaction to action they ride your emotions at will.
Are we to bow down once more, afraid to voice our concerns or discuss the very programme we have all built our hopes on?
I most certainly hope not.
Regards
paddy

Trice, you reminds me of my old Latin teacher's saying that Knowledge is power.
I don't like to occupy unneeded space by repeating myself but...
Guest1, azmia,... Please consider other ways to work together before abandoning your goal. If you don't use your information, it feels to me like a wine collection in a cellar which will never be tasted or drunk by anyone.... wouldn't that be a petty.
I don't see how excerpts copy-pasted at other fora can truly harm this fact & truth gathering effort...or how your quality work can be prohibited by the bungling & messing around of others, certainly at other fora (am I naive?)... but even if I'm wrong I think you should continue private and give some counterweight. I can't imagine there's no way how your treasure of information can be used to the better. (But I wished I could give you a definitive answer... which I can't.)

P.s. One concern: it worries me that some (maybe not explicitly) start already pointing fingers... Please realise that readers too easily draw their conclusions, make associations and relate names with wrong decisions etc before there's any real proof. That's a danger to me and not right. Imagine yourself being mentioned here publicly... Maybe there's no solution to this issue... but please be as careful as you can.