Thread: ATTN ALL MEMBERS - Distribution of Bryan & Sharon trial information

I would be happy to send a donation, but prefer not to go thru any of the companies that are listed for donation.

A lot of people have had problems with companies in the past for different reasons. Maybe there will be no one that feels the same as I do.

I would spend the money on postage rather then to use one of the companies.

If an address could be secured, details on how to send the funds, what type of funds i.e., cashier check, actual cash, check, international money order, etc.

Just a thought. It is not that I don't want to donate, only the method.

Thank You for everything that you are doing to secure the information on their trial.

If, and it is a big if, if we PIPS members do get anything back it is unlikely to be more than a cent or two on the dollar after the judiciary and lawyers take their piece of cake.

But my losses weren’t losses out of my pocket but clear profits from other Internet activities. So I’ve written PIPS off long ago and moved on and since then made up the ‘losses’ ten fold.

It would be nice to know that Marsden and Co get their comeuppance and become guests of Changi Jail for a few years. But it is not essential to my well being. As I stated, I’ve moved on.

However if some people are paying for information and others are not it is not fair to the payers to have that information given away free to the free loaders.

Option 3 for me.

Originally Posted by NewVision

I would be happy to send a donation, but prefer not to go thru any of the companies that are listed for donation.

A lot of people have had problems with companies in the past for different reasons. Maybe there will be no one that feels the same as I do.

I would spend the money on postage rather then to use one of the companies.

If an address could be secured, details on how to send the funds, what type of funds i.e., cashier check, actual cash, check, international money order, etc.

Just a thought. It is not that I don't want to donate, only the method.

Thank You for everything that you are doing to secure the information on their trial.

Your support and any donation you care to forward is and will remain transparent unless so wished and specified in confidence. With that, I invite your PM stipulating how you wish to transact or remit that is aligned to your personal comfort zone(s).

I will try to help you out with an arrangement .

YB.

Originally Posted by jambutty

If, and it is a big if, if we PIPS members do get anything back it is unlikely to be more than a cent or two on the dollar after the judiciary and lawyers take their piece of cake.

But my losses weren’t losses out of my pocket but clear profits from other Internet activities. So I’ve written PIPS off long ago and moved on and since then made up the ‘losses’ ten fold.

It would be nice to know that Marsden and Co get their comeuppance and become guests of Changi Jail for a few years. But it is not essential to my well being. As I stated, I’ve moved on.

However if some people are paying for information and others are not it is not fair to the payers to have that information given away free to the free loaders.

Option 3 for me.

Thank you for your input and vote JB

It is gratifying to know and receive the variety of feedbacks perceived by members which make the membership as enriched as one can imagine... and this clearly shows, not all are in favor of another where there are options for consideration... an interesting community we have indeed.

I see U R familiar with Changi...aka Changi University...for special criminal scholars in the art with crime...both civil & political

BM will NEVER be relocated to Changi which is a complete different sovereign location than to the penitentiary "holdings" within Malaysia where he is in custody and to be tried under that country's legal system.


YB.

I am willing to donate but I do not have the type of accounts the rest of you do. You can't fault people that do not invest as the rest of you do! I would be happy to send cash but ir would not get to you and would be in vain. We all have a stake in this matter. I would like us to set up a fund to petition all our original investments. Even if that was the original $490. I think we all could feel that we were part of a settlement verses the BoN or local government keeping our money. Just a thought!

Originally Posted by rsjacob

I am willing to donate but I do not have the type of accounts the rest of you do. You can't fault people that do not invest as the rest of you do! I would be happy to send cash but ir would not get to you and would be in vain...

Hello rsjacob,

Thank you for your post. I'm not sure if I really understand what your point is on the "can't fault" statement; but, if you are concerned about sending your donation, remember you can send a "check" by land mail. I don't know for sure, at this writing, but I'm pretty sure the e-bullion option is not available currently--which can be funded with no extra charges, etc--so writing a check would be a good option; it would be free of extra charges for funding, as is the case for some e-currency accounts, and you wouldn't have to go the hassle of opening up a Paypal account, and so forth. This applies to anybody who has had reservations about sending a contribution but have been leary of going through the funding hassle or extra expenses to fund--just send a check. Have a good one.

Best regards,

Thelema

My vote for option 2

Thanks Marek and all those working with you in making this wonderful opportunity available to us. Good job.

Cheers to all.

Originally Posted by rsjacob

I am willing to donate but I do not have the type of accounts the rest of you do. You can't fault people that do not invest as the rest of you do! I would be happy to send cash but ir would not get to you and would be in vain. We all have a stake in this matter. I would like us to set up a fund to petition all our original investments. Even if that was the original $490. I think we all could feel that we were part of a settlement verses the BoN or local government keeping our money. Just a thought!

Let me understand too your position to help you like everyone mostly that seeks some form of assistance surrounding both the funding, the right of claim as refund or payback and versus the Monetary Authority of a country.

No one deserves to be faulted or feel targeted as a non participant with funding (this is a non obligation participation aka volunteering to assist fellow donors), you act as your heart & mind steers your conscience on this path.

Problem with cash (65% succeeds usually) mailing is and becomes uncomfortable for all esp. when it is learn, it neither arrives nor ever left... it can be stressful for all 2B honest on this unsafe mode. Donation is already hard to gather, minimizing risk is a wiser option considered above all. With recent tracking and scanning technology, it has reversed that success rate to as low as 15% and the honest Henry at the post office is also a part-time employee...think about that risk as well...

I am not sure where you are but certainly NOT in Europe when one still refers to cheques hence, in USA, it is still prevailant and widely accepted and utterly low in costs so, sending a check or Echeck...(something new for me too with one Donor utilizing this facility from USA, see the Funding list) albeit to a Bank or through PayPal respectively, is very easy to execute.

The information is all you need to note down and seek advise by phone or over the Bank counter to achieve it.

If you happen to be in Europe, it will be dealt in Euros unless U R outside the EU countries. The PayPal account will absorb the smallish fees automatically, see again the various fundings by Donors in the List and see what amounts from a 10 or 20 to 25 value currency after it lands in the PayPal account.

Consider them alright? but you are also welcome to let me know which other options you truly feel comfortable in utilizing and PM me about it so we can see if it is indeed feasible, less costly and practical to deem an alternative above what is already available for convenience for most Donor members so far.

A Fund to submit a Petition is inapplicable and has no added value either. Petitions are FREE and voluntary too. Someone from the now defunct AusPips Forum organized that but what came out of it??? Some had serious reservations from that initiative then and so did I anyway...no funds are needed for such a step however, positive as it may appear, it has little effect nor influence esp. when the outcome is not define and we are still a long way from that "claim arena" to put it in perspective.

As for being part of a "Settlement" with the Malaysian Authorities... I am very certain, there is or was non of such development and do not foresee it at this current juncture, not until the trial is towards its closing days...which again, is far from near....

I hope this sheds some light for you... your PM is most welcome by me.


YB.

Interesting,

Alway nice to see different opinions on issues like this, but I vote for #1. No doubt some will remain interested in outcome, or sentence, but in the end, enough should donate for the sake of helping Bat$ help us all, so the donations are going to be ample on this basis alone as I see it. With thousands of members, surely donations should be ample given it will be several months before trial even starts.

Any information restricted to only those who donate will not be honored, so it is futal to think it can be controlled at all. Besides, by the time trail starts, most here will be more than financially secure given our other ventures, including dinar and dong, so if Bat$ comes up short, I know I will help bridge the gap, as I am sure many others will, so I don't see a valid reason for asking for donations just so you can hear about what happened when we all know we will get nothing out of this in the end other than the truth, and the truth always comes out in the end, so why restrict it?

Good luck and health to all, Mike

Agreed Mike,

If the Dinar RVs before the trial we'll hire Batty a limo, a chauffeur and put him up in 5-star hotels!