Thread: BTI information

well said velvetpatches

LOL
They should have had to sign a paper stating they understood out of the box thinking...these guys are so inside a box, if you took the box off of them they would still be square... 8)

Originally Posted by velvetpatches

Boatman,
Sorry, are you a banker, or familar with Maylasia banking situations. I doubt it. Taking your timeframe and thoughts on the subject is guesswork at best. imo

I believe things will work out. If I plant a seed, and become impatient with it because it hasn't arrived into my view, unthinking, I may step on it and destroy it, though it may come into view tomorrow. If we value something, we don't intentionally destroy it, just because we become impatient and fearful we might lose it.

Those with hardline views, as to think PIPS should operate like a local bank, while it still is growing to that point, those types should stay away from "out of the Box" ventures and stick to a savings account that is guaranteed to be available at moments notice.
Too bad a few didn't figure that out before they loaned their money.
I hope they will take their money and put it in a place where there's a window view that lets them see it any second that they feel the need. Of course it wouldn't grow like our money has in PIPS, but if being about to see it is the most significant thing to some, I hope they will do just that. ASAP

VP

OOOK...I do like windows.. I'm sure your non seed stepping is the answer, I have changed my definition of default. i realize now the longer i wait the more money i will make....thanks for the clean softline thinking....

My eyes have been opened...lets hold hands and make things right...
ASAP...

We will all make more if we think this way...can't wait for all our checks now that i understand!!!

Just ordered my my new 60" plasma screen now that I learned how to think...

Thanks for the help





One thing though, I didn't loan anything to Pic Pay

We're all glad to help! :) Not sure what the plazma 60* is about but, whatever makes you comfy. LOL

VP

Originally Posted by velvetpatches

We're all glad to help! :) Not sure what the plazma 60* is about but, whatever makes you comfy. LOL

VP

It's about the money you may never see becuase of your approach to a very real default...

Originally Posted by azmia

LOL
They should have had to sign a paper stating they understood out of the box thinking... these guys are so inside a box, if you took the box off of them they would still be square ...8)

OH Gosh Mia,

How true! The problem is they are so hell bent on destruction, that they cannot even realise that they are the problem, not the solution!

They simply cannot understand that by sending complaints since 4-6 months to Bank, payment processors, Regulatory bodies in US, UK, Malaysia, Australia, etc.. they are the ones who are shooting themselves and us in the foot and have put pips at a standstill!

Now they are going one step further! They are sending the complaints to the Central Bank of Malaysia, investigating picpay/pips and they still tell us it is because they have not been paid!

They are so stupid as to think that this will get them paid faster!
They even are asking the Central Bank to change the management of pips... In other words a takeover!

The unfortunate thing is the ones instigating the most are the NEW MERCHANTS with no pips accounts.
They stand to lose nothing but their commissions on members purchases that are frozen... But they have managed to convince a tiny percentage of pips members that this is the correct line to take and are allowing them to go to the forefront! These pips members are so weak and easily led that they do not see the forest for the TREES.

They have never botherred to look at any past internet venture that gets shut down, and that the only ones who earn big in this case are the lawyers... NEVER THE MEMBERS!

And all Bryan was trying to do... was to help regular guys out of the hole and get them financially free!

It is so pathetic!

Sincerely

Spongebob

Boatman,
I knew about this program for at least a year before I joined, actually I think it was the previous program that I originally knew about.

When I looked at the Bistro, the Fashion ideas, The Animated Kids Bible sites, I knew right away without question that this was going to be something very big.
Though I was very much aware that new business is risky, and this one as we've been talking was way out of the box. I decided when I joined that I was going to see it through, not worry (cause I've always liked windows too in the past) about it because I knew it was a great concept. I knew it would either go big or not. It takes real time to "go big" it takes real time to not have to juggle things to make them work.

Sticking with something you've decided to do, be it a venture such as this or, marriage, or anything, it is just that, a decision. Just like with anything, there will be good times, there will be bad or not so good times. If you've made the decision with all of that decided before hand, then you don't go restless and switch "horses" midstream. Especially since there isn't any other "horse" quite as unique as this one. They just don't wonder down the road and stop in front of you everyday!

If there were no reasons for the delays in withdrawls, then anyone with any business sense would say what you seem to be saying. However, there are reasons, we all know them. It isn't some made up fantasy that there have been problems with banks. It is a reality even if you don't recognise it. It is the same as anything, if there's a good reason behind delays then most reasonable people try to give some understanding to the problem, yes, it is difficult at times, but, that's life.

It really does sound like you need to have your money in a bank, and not in a company of this nature, if I could expedite that transaction I would surely do so immediately.

I'll tell you what, give me your name and information and I'll put you on the list with anyone else that wants out.
I'll forward the information to Maylasia and ask for your money back. I won't even charge you a fee as it would be worth it not having to hear the complaints. Of course, I doubt they would do that but what the hey, we'll work to get you outa here and back into your confort zone ASAP; and hopefully you will find that windowed money vault.

VP

Unfortunately, If PIPs is brought down, there definitely won't be any money paid out. When courts go after a downed company, they try to sue all the people envolved, it seems , so "proportedly" money is then given to a few who lost money as in the late investors who never recieved income from their PicPay in wds or exchanges. Only a little if any, is given out to each, if any because the lawyers suck it all up in outlandish fees.

The FOOLS who are trying to bring down the company want this to happen and are using the stupid ones who are helping them. You can color it any color you want, but the only way to get any funds is to restructure the business as a whole and then proceed to further investments. Only then can payments start. If there are funds hidden in safe caches for future withdrawals, then you won't see it if you take down the founder's dream with vengence.

I am pretty sure that all who are working to bring it down are well known by now and they won't see a penny as a result. But they may end up in court on charges of other crimes if they did exchanges during times when there was no picpay wd movement, luring in victims into a company that they are saying was a scam.

Funny how the law looks at such things...

Well, whether Pips and Pic pay fail or not is not in our hands, some how many of you think that being, " postive" will put you first at the money trough when and if the money flows... Good luck..
I want Pips to succeed but to ignore obvious facts and excuse everything as the responsablity of some , "troll" is just dumb. Hold to account those that are accountable.
I look forward to hearing the, "truth" simple. If the company is solvent we will all have a great time in Portugal...and your , "trolls' will have lost..
Let's hope...

Bull bull bull.
I am so tired of hearing that it is the members fault, it is the banks fault.
We should have known better than to expect our money back in the TIME FRAME stated on the website.
BULL BULL BULL.
IT IS Bryans fault.
IT is the lies, the delays, the untruths , the not making the members a priority.
I am tired of all the blame going somewhere else other than where it belongs.
I have been an advid supporter but come on.. this is like putting blinders on by now. IT is WAY beyond the point of thinking outside the box and blah blah blah.
Put the blame where it belongs and get real.
I too wish for the best but I see members running off to other programs now and pretty much chaulking this one up to a lose.
That just sucks.
This company needs to be held liable for the loans and the promises in what ever way that can happen.
Shame shame shame on the company for putting itsself into this position.