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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwood View Post
    Before you magically state your currency is suddenly worth thousands of times more today than it was worth yesterday, you'd better be prepared to provide PROOF.

    That is the burden Iraq carries right now. Prove it and it will come.

    Thank you.
    So are you a believer of slow and grow or an overnight reval? You don't seem to be to making it clear.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    So are you a believer of slow and grow or an overnight reval? You don't seem to be to making it clear.
    I am clearly on the fence here.

    My hope is that it's swift and stunning.

    My fear is that it's slow and methodical.

    My greatest fear is the unravelling of the country, the departure of the troops (both US and the rest) and Iraq splitting into pieces.

    That's my stand.

    Thank you.
    Do unto others....you know the rest...

    Here I am getting my Dinar News Fix waiting for that "Bold Adjustment"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwood View Post
    I am clearly on the fence here.

    My hope is that it's swift and stunning.

    My fear is that it's slow and methodical.

    My greatest fear is the unravelling of the country, the departure of the troops (both US and the rest) and Iraq splitting into pieces.

    That's my stand.

    Thank you.
    Either way you'll make enough to send your daughters to college.

    Perhaps your greatest fear as above show your true feelings on this investment, hence the link for donations.

    Good luck with the college funds.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    Either way you'll make enough to send your daughters to college.

    Perhaps your greatest fear as above show your true feelings on this investment, hence the link for donations.

    Good luck with the college funds.

    Thank you. I sincerely appreciate the thoughts.
    Do unto others....you know the rest...

    Here I am getting my Dinar News Fix waiting for that "Bold Adjustment"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwood View Post
    Hey, it's a fun way to look at things. Munny has every right to post his Opinions and your reaction may be due to the fact it is not what you would like to see?

    Nice work, Munny.

    I personally don't see Iraq surviving past Jan 2008 without major changes in place like the HCL, FIL and a stronger currency. Munny's Model will be tossed aside if Big Oil gets in this Summer. <<--That is MY opinion.

    Thank you.
    Thanks for the reply, Hardwood. The strange thing about this is why would anyone toss aside differing viewpoints? Seems to me more info, research, and views are better than simply following one line of thought. Fact is the most direct source is the CBI/IMF and they say the IQD will be re-valued per a gradual method based on security, GDP (economic recovery), infrastructure rebuilding, debt relief, inflation controls, M2 level, bank reserves, and oil production. Fact is that is exactly what the CBI has been doing for 5 straight months and will continue to do so.
    Munny Model IQD Value Projections
    Range 1345 IQD/1 USD to 1 IQD/.27 USD:

    1345 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1260 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1100 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 5, 2008
    810 IQD/1 USD by July 5, 2008
    500 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 3, 2009
    300 IQD/1 USD by Apr. 18, 09
    1 IQD/.01 USD by Aug. 8, 09
    1 IQD/.27 USD by Sept. 12, 09

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    Munny's changed his model more times than Frank Sinatra sang 'My Way'.
    I've tweaked the model several times and have stated I would do so. Any investment model must be flexible and adapt to new information or data. Having said that, the overall change has not been as much as you say. And the predictions on rates and dates that you have made during the time I've been in this investment have varied far wider than my model. Thus your complaint is really groundless from any angle you look at it. I really wish we'd get past the "attack" mode of this investment. Why don't we as a community ask each other hard and valid questions about each others theories and leave the smear campaigns aside??? We're all in this together whether we like it or not. We all know Iraq is one of the wealthiest Nations on Earth and with security will have a much stronger currency exchange rate. Work together, not against each other. How can we ask the Iraqi sects to "get along" if we can't even do the same thing here???
    Munny Model IQD Value Projections
    Range 1345 IQD/1 USD to 1 IQD/.27 USD:

    1345 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1260 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1100 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 5, 2008
    810 IQD/1 USD by July 5, 2008
    500 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 3, 2009
    300 IQD/1 USD by Apr. 18, 09
    1 IQD/.01 USD by Aug. 8, 09
    1 IQD/.27 USD by Sept. 12, 09

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    there was never any overnight success for you, was there? you were in this baby for the L.....O....N....G haul. i want your theories to be proven wrong.
    we have to admire your stamina.

    your posts, more to the point,your theories, have'nt been the most popular, i guess we would also have to admire your testicular fortitude, for hangin in there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwood View Post
    Munny's model is a simple representation of what we have already witnessed for the last year. A slow, gradual increase in the value of the dinar.

    He is outlining the "What if's" based on various weekly increases in value vs. the covetted "Bold Adjustment". We have only seen slow, gradual value increases, so his model is a continuance of that theory.

    Basing the future on the performance of the past. Seems logical to me.

    The idea of a Bold Adjustment is a theory started right here and widely accepted because that's what we all want-- A BOLD ADJUSTMENT.

    Problem is that the Iraqi's don't care what WE want.

    Sorry that your thread got hijacked so fast Munny.

    Thank you.
    Don't worry about it, Hardwood, the timeline is the least important part of my message so if people who feel frustrated that their theories aren't showing results want to hyjack it, fine by me. No one can predict when this war will have a turning point and the timeline was done per request of several people. It's a very general wide outlook, as you can see. I'd love a Bold Adjustment, but even there can only see the numbers crunch to the pennies, nickels, or dimes levels. Let's see how it all pans out.
    Munny Model IQD Value Projections
    Range 1345 IQD/1 USD to 1 IQD/.27 USD:

    1345 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1260 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1100 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 5, 2008
    810 IQD/1 USD by July 5, 2008
    500 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 3, 2009
    300 IQD/1 USD by Apr. 18, 09
    1 IQD/.01 USD by Aug. 8, 09
    1 IQD/.27 USD by Sept. 12, 09

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    hey munny, im just giving you a hard time. its all in fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    Mine and others problem with Munny is the way he projects his model. IF he did it in a civil, not, up his own butt way, then he would get more respect and civility from people. Arrogance is not an attractive feature.

    That is my point, and my last point.
    I fully admit being VERY self confident and express myself in a VERY direct manner. But the facts remain that anyone in any Forum that has been civil to me has gotten the same response in return. More to the facts is Adman has been the initiator of attacks against me in multiple posts and threads. I only respond harshly if first attacked by someone. I have MANY times tried to sway or make peace with Adman, but he always comes back on the attack. The fact is my manner is not what galls him, but my message. It doesn't jive with his, thus he attacks. This thread proves it. The guy claims to have me on ignore, yet he continually comes at me. I'm not going to claim sainthood here, but the overwhelming vast majority of "flame" type threads and posts were not initiatated by me. I just am not a "turn the cheek" type personality. Good news is here in Rolclub the back biting is less than in some other places. Let's keep it civil, Adman. If you detest me so much please really do put me on ignore and stick with it. Best of luck to you and eveyone else involved.
    Munny Model IQD Value Projections
    Range 1345 IQD/1 USD to 1 IQD/.27 USD:

    1345 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1260 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1100 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 5, 2008
    810 IQD/1 USD by July 5, 2008
    500 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 3, 2009
    300 IQD/1 USD by Apr. 18, 09
    1 IQD/.01 USD by Aug. 8, 09
    1 IQD/.27 USD by Sept. 12, 09

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