Thread: PIPS/10x5/BM - Objective Point of View

Nej, very good post. Thank you for taking the time to write that. If I may, however, I'd like to add a couple things to your recap...

1)Bryan has always blamed everyone else for things that go wrong....he has never taken any personal responsbility for PIPS failing and ending up being investigated. IMO, as CEO he was ultimately responsible for the problems and mistakes (I'm speaking mildly there) that led up to BNM stepping in.

2)Also, as has been mentioned many times and in various forums, didn't Bryan tell us all at the beginning that Pips was licensed in every country in which it would be doing business? And, as it turned out, that was not true? (Seems like a blatant lie, does it not?)

As for "Bryan bashing"....the worst bashing seems to come consistently from the likes of Newlife and his cohorts who consistently assassinate the character of anyone who dares speak against Bryan in anyway. This has gone on for months and months and why it has been tolerated is beyond me...but this is not my forum so I have no say there. But let's face it, Bryan has brought much of the negativity and "bashing" on himself. He is not merely an "innocent victim" here. He has lied, deceived, acted incredibly childish, bashed members on many occasions, and broken promise after promise. And his failure to communicate has always been completely inexcusable.

As for his response to Marek, I don't see that as Bryan merely reacting due to the current circumstances...rather that is typical Bryan whenever he is challenged or questioned and he doesn't like it. Many of us clearly recall him coming on the old Pips forum and calling everyone *****s shortly before that forum closed. He has often acted childish and unprofessional in his angry responses....that does not result in respect from members nor does it help his credibility... To excuse it dues to stress or being tired of the "naysayers" is not the strongest argument. Neither does his threatening to not bring Pips back (as he said in his post to Marek) do much for his already seriously damaged image...I have to agree with whoever said it sounded like a 5-year old....very sad.

The really sad fact is how much people have turned against each other and are hurting each other (and have been for a very long time) over what has happened with Pips. What does that accomplish???????? Do people that still fiercely support Bryan and believe Pips will return think that vicious remarks towards those who have concluded that it's pretty much dead really think they are helping anything? Whatever side of the fence we're all on, bottom line is, we all suffered a loss, if not financial, then certainly emotional. A lot of dreams were shattered when Pips stopped paying and especially when the investigation started. Which brings one other point...has Bryan ever shown true remorse for how many have suffered as a result of Pips crashing? Yes, each person is responsible for the amount of financial risk they took...but the reasons each took it ultimately led back to Bryan being quite compelling in what he was promising us in terms of future financial gain.... But financial loss aside, has Bryan ever cared that dreams were shattered and hopes crushed? IMO, that is the far greater damage done in all this. If I missed that post of his, then my apologies, but I don't recall him ever really seeming to care (just as he has never taken responsibility) but he certainly seems to like to let us all know how dire his own situation is (and has done so many times)....so....it's all about him?

Nej is right...we don't know yet what the full truth is. But as time goes on, Bryan has shown more and more of his true character...and it's not the character of someone I, for one, can respect or support.

ajk64 you said a mouth ful and right to the point. I don't think I could add anything to what you said better.

Thanks, Gator! It was a "mouthful" wasn't it...being succinct is not one of my strong points, lol!

Just for the record: Remember that old saying "burn me once shame on you. burn me twice, shame on me." I would never put my money into yet another situation with someone when the first situation was not resolved "as agreed". HA Lotto etc. fell into that category for me. PXXS will never be resolved "as agreed" no matter what happens in the end. It's too late for that.

Red flags popped up everywhere long before PxxS stopped paying. The cause was obfuscated by almost everyone responsible for taking care of the business.

By checking my previous posts, here, in the Aussie forum and the beginning days of Irish Billy's forum you will see that I have been critical of BM's modus operandi all along. It was the witness of the pioneers that caused me to withhold judgement on BM's character, in spite of all the telltale signs to the contrary.

What I have done is to try to help contribute to the keeping of a level head during the process of BNM investigation. I just don't understand why people won't accept the futility of the blame game. NO ONE has had the information needed, to know for sure, ANYTHING that will get our money to us! Yet!

Marek ferreted out the recently discovered info about BM's continued shoddy dealings. Notice I still reserve judgement. My grandfather was a rough and ready guy and raw all around the edges. One of the biggest hearts I ever knew.

Thank you Marek. You have been "true" all along.

No one here has had a more serious need for PXXS to work out than my family. BM didn't cause my baby granddaughters Neuroblastoma. He did give me reason to believe that, through my loan, I might have been able to contribute to her care which has cost up to $40,000 USD per week on occasion. Today, I've been informed that the cancer covers 70% of her body and it's only a matter of days before she leaves us.

I don't know if the money would have helped her. The state of the medical business seems pure evil to me. Worldwide. But that's another story. We have all been working double and triple jobs, have second mortgages and spent all our savings. Sorrowfully, the worst of the financial woes will hit after she 's gone. So, I hold out hope for some return on my loan to PXXS.

From reading the posts across many threads over the last year I see that all types of folks from all walks of life loaned money and for as many different reasons. We are a sample and cross section of the whole world. Is there any way we can come out of this as better people? Maybe not richer, but just better. I know there is. Can we make a more uplifting reason to be here together? You know we can.

Economic freedom is certainly a wonderful goal for all. (IMHO) failure to obey the First Commandment given us children of Adam and Eve is the primary cause of all our suffering, lack and limitation.

It was a heart rending question, asked that awful night, that we all need to answer: "Can't we all just get along?"

Originally Posted by jog

Just for the record: Remember that old saying "burn me once shame on you. burn me twice, shame on me." I would never put my money into yet another situation with someone when the first situation was not resolved "as agreed". HA Lotto etc. fell into that category for me. PXXS will never be resolved "as agreed" no matter what happens in the end. It's too late for that.

Red flags popped up everywhere long before PxxS stopped paying. The cause was obfuscated by almost everyone responsible for taking care of the business.

By checking my previous posts, here, in the Aussie forum and the beginning days of Irish Billy's forum you will see that I have been critical of BM's modus operandi all along. It was the witness of the pioneers that caused me to withhold judgement on BM's character, in spite of all the telltale signs to the contrary.

What I have done is to try to help contribute to the keeping of a level head during the process of BNM investigation. I just don't understand why people won't accept the futility of the blame game. NO ONE has had the information needed, to know for sure, ANYTHING that will get our money to us! Yet!

Marek ferreted out the recently discovered info about BM's continued shoddy dealings. Notice I still reserve judgement. My grandfather was a rough and ready guy and raw all around the edges. One of the biggest hearts I ever knew.

Thank you Marek. You have been "true" all along.

No one here has had a more serious need for PXXS to work out than my family. BM didn't cause my baby granddaughters Neuroblastoma. He did give me reason to believe that, through my loan, I might have been able to contribute to her care which has cost up to $40,000 USD per week on occasion. Today, I've been informed that the cancer covers 70% of her body and it's only a matter of days before she leaves us.

I don't know if the money would have helped her. The state of the medical business seems pure evil to me. Worldwide. But that's another story. We have all been working double and triple jobs, have second mortgages and spent all our savings. Sorrowfully, the worst of the financial woes will hit after she 's gone. So, I hold out hope for some return on my loan to PXXS.

From reading the posts across many threads over the last year I see that all types of folks from all walks of life loaned money and for as many different reasons. We are a sample and cross section of the whole world. Is there any way we can come out of this as better people? Maybe not richer, but just better. I know there is. Can we make a more uplifting reason to be here together? You know we can.

Economic freedom is certainly a wonderful goal for all. (IMHO) failure to obey the First Commandment given us children of Adam and Eve is the primary cause of all our suffering, lack and limitation.

It was a heart rending question, asked that awful night, that we all need to answer: "Can't we all just get along?"

Thanks John,

Having read your post, there is really nothing left to say on this whole issue, for your pain says it all, PIPS is meaningless when it comes to the pain you are going through and my heart goes out to you having also lost a daughter, but thanks for sharing with us all and I agree, we should not turn against each other for anyone, especially Bryan.

God Bless, Mike

Hello everyone,

Beabless, thank you for bringing up the goodness of Marek by offering the $10 to us battered Rolclub members. I also want to honor him for this because, for me, it was more than a getsture. I am now earning a positive cash flow from his actions. This means a great deal to me and I want him to know openly that his gift to me is greatly appreciated.

Clearly, we all have lost much and we are all in a lot of pain. We are all grieving, and anger is one of the emotions that rises in the grieving process. I hope that soon, we will be able to gather our energies collectively and begin our healing process. There is a lot of love here and remember that the source of love is unlimited, and every one deserves to be loved.

Life is a grand teacher and pain really gets our attention when we are all so occupied with our daily routines. Life is not fair. What can any of us say or do to comfort John at this time when his angel of a granddaughter is ravaged by cancer! My heart is just breaking thinking about what this family is going through.

What is true is that life is sacred. What we all really own is our next breath. That is it!

Everything else about life is about choices. So, I and "we" choose to be here in the Rolclub forum community. What we all must recognize individually is why we choose to be here, and does it further our purpose?

That being said, especially in light of the events of this past week, this Rolclub Forum does not revolve around Bryan Marsden! It never did.

What we are is a community. Bryan has all our contact information in his database, so if or when PIPS is resolved, he will contact us. We do not need him, so let us begin to focus on what we can gain from all this powerful energy we possess as a community! That is called synergy.

We can do that!

Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise. It is important for us all to grieve, because the truth has been revealed and time has run out for waiting and having blind faith. Cry, laugh, get drunk, scream your lungs out into a pillow, chop some wood, run 5 miles---whatever it takes to release your frustrations! Then come back to the real reason you are here in the Rolclub Forum and determine what you can do here to attain your goals.

I have a really good feeling that there are a lot of good things coming to all of us that choose to be here.

Margaux Gold

Bryan didn't say that he wouldn't bring PIPS back! He said that IF 10by5 failed, PIPS wouldn't come back...
As I read it (might have misunderstood, of course) he meant that if 10by5 fails he won't have the energy to go on working...

10x5...
MechCash....
Seems like BM knows how to tug PIPSters' strings....

Originally Posted by karinc

Bryan didn't say that he wouldn't bring PIPS back! He said that IF 10by5 failed, PIPS wouldn't come back...
As I read it (might have misunderstood, of course) he meant that if 10by5 fails he won't have the energy to go on working...

Yea working 30 hours a day will do that to a person.

So is the 10x5 still working or is it over? Did not get in that one but if it is still up and running I will help if I can what do we need to do to keep it going?