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I think I will need a whole page for this post, an overview of PIPs businesses :)

Late 2004 NYC Meeting :

Transcript of Bryan Marsden's presentation at the NYC PIPS meeting
Pure Investor company overview

PIPS is a group of companies, not just in cyberspace but brick and mortar companies,
all trading in business and generating revenues. These revenues go into the total
fund we have in Pureinvestor/PIPS to produce our Return on Investment (ROI).
There are 11 companies under the PIPS umbrella which make up PIPS and contribute to
the 2% Return on Investment (ROI) that each PIPS member earns 5 trading days a week.
They are:
• PIPS Inc.
• PIPS Financial Services, Inc.
• PIC Trust Limited
• PIC Capital
• PIC Realty
• PicPay
• PIPS Premiere, Inc.
• PIPS Fashions
• New Mark Business Centres
• PIPS Bistro
• PIPS Foundation
• PIPS Secured (new)
PIPS, Inc.
• Registered in Panama
• As the holding company PIPS incorporated has a major shareholding in all other companies
in the group and is the corporate financial hub
• PIPS will also go public on one of the Asian stock markets in about 2 years, and PIPS
members will be able to profit from the IPO (Initial Public Offering)
• PIPS members will be offered preferential shares in the IPO when we go for listing
(going public will not effect any of the programs). The advantage is PIPS will give members
an opportunity to buy in to preferential shares BEFORE it goes to listing will make 600%
return when we go public.

PIPS Financial Services, Inc.
• Registered and Licensed in Panama
• This is the licensing arm to take deposits legally from anywhere in the world. It doesn't
come under the jurisdiction of the SEC, or any of the governments, so they cannot touch the
company and they cannot close it down.
• PIPS Financial Services is the licensed entity in the group to handle all of the payment
processing
• All deposits come through PIPS Financial Services and in the not so distant future will
operate in-house
• Credit Card processing for the group

PIC Trust Limited
• Registered and Licensed in New Zealand (PIC Trust acts as Trustees for PIPS)
• PIC Trust handles trading arm of PIPS
• PIC Trust will (in November 2004) setup IBC’s and Trust Accounts for members (will be in
Panama, New Zealand, etc).
• 100% anonymous
• Zero Taxation for member Trusts and IBC’s

5 Year Trust Plan
The PIPS 5-Year Trust Plan (5YTP) has been designed to provide PIPS members, custodians as
individuals, corporations and employees with a short-term plan for financial independence
and corporate growth.

• Guaranteed
• Insured
• Death Benefits
• Disability Benefits
• Independent Agent Benefits
• Employer Benefits

Benefits

PIPS Members

PIPS Members can be assured of a fully managed plan without worrying about other investments,
the plan is set at a low cost of US $175.00 for entry plus US $25.00 per month for 5 years
(there is now a “clear balance key” where you now go in manually and clear your account balance)
or pay the lump sum of $1350.00 (which saves you $325.00 overall).
On maturity the member will receive a Lump Sum of US $87,017.47 and a monthly income of
US $9,323.30 for the duration of their life.
The plan also incorporates death and disability benefits to ensure that the members’ dependents
are secured in case of the member’s death or if the member is disabled through injury or
illness and is unable to work they will receive a monthly income.

Corporate Employees

Employees can be assured of a fully managed plan, the plan is set at a low cost of US $145.00
for entry plus US $20.00 per month for 5 years. The balance of the contribution is provided
by the Employer, all contributions are collected at source by the Employer. On maturity the
member will receive a Lump Sum of US $87,017.47 and a monthly income of US $9,323.30 for the
duration of their life.

The plan also incorporates death and disability benefits to ensure that the members’ dependents
are secured on the member’s demise or if the member is disabled through injury or illness and
is unable to work they will receive a monthly income.

In the event of the Employer downsizing its workforce or ceasing to operate the plan, employees
are provided with an option to terminate the plan or to continue to maturity by paying the full
premium of US $25.00 per month.

Corporate Employers

Employers can be assured of not only providing a benefit for their employees, but also generate
investment capital for their company operations. The plan is set at a low cost of US $50.00 per
employee for entry plus US $5.00 per employee per month for 5 years. The Employer shall be
responsible for the collections of all contributions for both the employees and the company
each month and remitting them to PIPS Inc.
The additional benefit for employers is that US $2.00 per employee is placed into an investment
fund every month and a proportion of the returns are compounded every month, the balance of
the returns being placed into a withdrawable account for company usage. Over the duration of
the plan this provides the Employer with a return on investment of US $20,968.87 per employee.
Employers can tell the employee that they can sign up after 2 years employment to avoid turn
over at 5 years (so there is an extra 2 years of service the employee gives).
Bryan assured members that members' original investment, including whatever interest it may
have accumulated, will be insured by Allianz.

Agent’s Package For The 5YTP:
You can become an Agent for the 5YTP. You can set up your own agency and sell the plan and
earn incredible commissions!
You do not have to have a license to sell the 5YTP but agents must be able to sell and do
the presentation, speaking to the Board of a company. PIC Trust requires you fill out the
application online for an Agent and fax your Curriculum Vitae (CV) to be considered. After
consideration, you have to be able to show PIC Trust that you can sign a corporate account
of at least of 1,000 employees under you and they remain stable.
Benefits: You will earn $2 per month per employee
**(SIGN UP A COMPANY WITH 50,000 EMPLOYEES
= $100,000 A MONTH FOR 5 YEARS)**
Members of the 5YTP will be able to have access to a worldwide medical plan for less than
$330 per month (still negotiating the numbers), which will be, for example, a fraction of
the cost that US citizens presently have to pay for medical insurance.
Questions about the 5YTP:
Why the 5YTP and Not Just 2%?
• Bryan gave the “Sweetshop Scenario” that if you give a child a dollar and place them in
front of a bank and sweetshop they are more likely to choose the sweets over investing the
dollar. So you are more likely to make a withdrawal in the 2% program (for life’s
circumstances) when you come into good profit. So with the 5YTP, PI will put the money in
the 5YTP and you cannot get to it until 5 years at maturity – (with the 2% more than
likely you will start withdrawing when you get into good profit).

What If You Become Disabled While in the 5YTP?
• If one dies or becomes disabled in the partial payment plan of $175 down and $25 monthly,
you will receive at 24 months $250,000 lump sum and $4,000 monthly and the full payment
plan a payment of $250,000 and $5 or 6,000 monthly. You will need to show PI proof of
notarized disability document from doctor.
PIC Capital
• Registered and Licensed in Malaysia
• PIC Capital Operates
o Leasing for Small and Medium Industries
o Hire Purchase
o Loans (waiting for additional license will then offer mortgages and personal loans)
o Venture Capital (Licensed approved verbally waiting for official copy) Members will be
able to buy units for $2 in 100 blocks at a time
o Joint Venture partner with PIPS Premiere, Inc. for production and distribution

PIPS Premiere, Inc.
• Registered in Panama
• PIPS Premiere is the Film and Entertainment arm of the PIPS group
• Special Project Film Production, Animation, DVD’s CD’s and Merchandising
• Distribution Network Worldwide
• First Major Project Already in Production (an animated children’s bible in 3-D) first
release April 2005 (I saw a teaser of the children’s Bible, it is AWESOME!). Their
investment on this is $40 million in 18 months and their projected return is $1.5 billion
• There will be 65 episodes altogether in 20 minute CDs
• Targeted toward 3 to 13-yr olds

PIC Realty (Home Financing & Restructuring)
Three areas in real estate are being targeted by PIPS Real Estate: the foreclosure market,
acquisition of existing office towers and malls and financing development projects. Designed
primarily for PIPS members, they stand to benefit the most. It will enable them to buy or
lease a home for 40% below market value and have the homes financed through PIPS at 30%
below current market rates. The program is currently in operation in Malaysia and some
50 properties are being acquired each month. The program will expand to the US market in 2005.
Purchasing and acquisition of existing business office towers and malls, said Bryan, is a
move designed to take advantage of properties that are 100% occupied but whose owners are
eager to sell to exit from their dollar-denominated construction loans. Bryan said that
participation in development projects will be limited to the financing side of it.
• Registered and Licensed in Malaysia
• PIC Realty invests in the
o Residential foreclosure markets
o Commercial property market including operations
o Development projects
o Supported by a network of estate agents and valuers
• 40% Discount on Market Value
• Monthly Payments 30% Less than Current Mortgage Rates
• Easy Exit Plan Guaranteed House Buy Back
• Easy Upgrade Plan No Chain
• PIC Realty are buying approx 50 new properties a month (foreclosure market but will give the
one in a bind relief, PI will restructure them to afford to stay in the home)
• Operating in Malaysia will open in US in 2005

PICpay
• Registered in Malaysia
• Online Payment Gateway (similar to PayPal)
• E-Commerce Shopping Carts
• Merchant Accounts
• Debit Cards
• Debit Card Processing in conjunction with PIPS
• More than 60,000 members
• Hired More PicPay Staff
• Staff is working 24/7 in various shifts
• Bryan is striving for 3-day turnaround for all withdrawals

PIPS Fashions
Bryan disclosed that PIPS Fashions will be added to its list of franchises. Headed by an
innovative designer, PIPS fashions will make its debut at the Hawaii Convention in March
2005 next year. Its first set of creation will be one of the highlights in Hawaii,
unveiling a commercial line of casual and formal wear for men and women
• Incorporated in Malaysia
• PIPS Fashions is the fashion design and merchandising hub of the group
• Producing commercial lines in ladies and men’s casual and formal clothing and PIPS own
exclusive fashions
• Fashions will be shown at the Hawaii convention
• Team of young dynamic designers
• Developing Bistro Merchandising
• Exclusive Lines to be shown in London, Paris, Milan and New York
• Will set up fashion outlets (own a franchise)
PIPS Bistros
The PIPS Bistro franchise, according to Bryan, will come to the franchise holder as a
complete package. You must be able to run a restaurant. Awardees will receive the
bistro/restaurant layout and design, culinary training, marketing and staffing. Two types
of franchises are available, bistro only and a combination bistro-restaurant. The
restaurant will feature casual, formal and private dining. The bistro will be the
central gathering place for PIPSTERS and their guests with information about PIPS
readily available from computers within the bistro site. The first franchise opens
its doors in Kuala Lumpur on November 18th 2004 where chefs are currently undergoing
honing up their culinary skills.

• PIPS Bistro is a Franchise
• PIPS Bistro is Home for PIPSTERS
• PIPS Bistro is Full of Information (PIPS, NYSE, Reuters Real-Time News)
• PIPS Bistro is the Business Venue (business lunches, business conferences, business
catering, etc.)
• PIPS Bistro is Intimate Dining
• PIPS Bistro is a Major Group Asset (part of what feeds our ROI)
*** PIPS ONLY NEEDS TO MAKE 0.05% to PAY US 2% a DAY***
• Two packages
o Bistro only
o Bistro and Restaurant
Available to Qualified PIPSTERS
(must be able to run a restaurant)
• Top-Level Support
• Planned Franchising
• Kualu Lumpur (Opens November 18th)
• Singapore
• Australia
• US and Canada
• Europe
• Asia
PIPS Foundation
Even as Bryan told us that he will be in Manila between November 20 and 24 to turn over
PIPS’ First Humanitarian contribution that will help street children, he also announced
the formation of the PIPS Foundation. PIPS Foundation will be the agency through which
requests for other humanitarian projects will be submitted.
• A subsidiary of PIC Trust
• Objective to handle PIPS humanitarian aid projects
• Structured by committee comprising representatives from PIPS, Isabellamina Foundation
(which presently helps Philippine street children who are forced to beg and are abused
physically and sexually, even small children 3-4 years old) and member representatives
from Australia, Europe and North America
• Members can put for projects in their local areas
Newmark Business Centres
• Registered in Malaysia
• Associate Company to the PIPS Group
• Oldest part of the business established 1997. This is the back end of the company and
where all the support team is located
• NMBC is the operations powerhouse of the group
• Manages all of PIPS group offices
• Provides all back office operations working with debit cards, 5 year trust plan, movement
of funds between PIPS accounts, ATM machines, Speedy Wallet, and your bank accounts, etc.
PIPS Secured (New!)
PIPS Secured Trust, is the company’s high end investment project that launches this month,
Bryan encourages members to refer potential investors and take advantage of the 1% monthly
commission. Minimum investment required is $1 million. Principal is guaranteed at the end
of one year and one day. Investors are assured of receiving a three (3%) return every
trading day for a total of $6 million at the end of the term.
• High End Investment
• Minimum to invest is $1 Million
• Guaranteed Capital Repayment
• Funds Insured
• Term 1 Year + 1 Day
• Earn 3% per Trading Day (for 10 months, the other 2 months goes to the UN)
$1 million = $6 million in return
• Need to Show Proof of Funds
• You Receive Information on Investments
• Transfer of Funds
• Trust Deed Issued
• Earn ROI Every Month for 3 Months then quarterly from date of entry
• Your Capital Returned after 1Yr + 1 Day
• NO one will be able to withdraw funds without your signature, co-signed by another bank
officer
• You will have to fly down to Singapore and sign before bank officers
• Deposit Funds 7 Days before program starts
• You can withdraw monthly for the first 3 months and then quarterly
• You can earn 1% a month from introducing an investor to the program
New Developments
• Debit Card going from Mastercard (Canadian bank) to Visa (U.S. bank), new debit cards are
in and will be issued, your current card is still available for use until your replacement
arrives
• PureInvestor will implement a new system for faxing to PIPS. Added 9 new fax lines
• PIPS will be Mac friendly in 1-2 weeks. You will finally be able to buy units from your
Mac computer
• Amalgamation of accounts coming soon. You will have a master account, where you can access
your other PIPS sub-accounts
• Long term plans (2-10 years) retirement villages and resorts (presently for Japanese
market), golf courses, marinas, condominiums, special time share programs available to
PIPS members with more flexibility than traditional time share programs


Some Q&A From the NYC Meeting
* When will the first Bistro open in the U.S. and how much will it cost?
The first Bistro in the U.S. will open in the second quarter of 2005 in the U.S. and a
franchise purchase will cost around $400,000.
*When will the first realty company open in the U.S.?
It is in the process of opening NOW!
*What type of security does PIPS have in terms of online security?
There are 6 levels of security to prevent any intrusion of hackers to PIPS system.
*When will IBCs (International Business Corporations) be available to PIPS members from
PureInvestor?
IBCs will be available for set up in November 2004.
*When will PIPS Secure open? Can an account be opened through aggregated funds?
PIPS Secure will be up and running in November 2004. Yes, the funds can be aggregated BUT
everyone in the pool will have to show proof of funds and misleading information from any
one person will cause the account NOT to open.
*When will the IPO become available? Will the IPO have any effect on the 2% program?
The IPO is going public in 2 years and will have no effect on the 2% program.
*How many PIPS Secured accounts can one have?
It is unlimited the amount the amount of accounts one can have.
*Who audits PureInvestor?
Ernst & Young. Ernst & Young will audit PureInvestor next year. There will be an annual
summary will be posted on the FORUM.
*When will the Venture Capital company launch?
The Venture Capital is about to launch just waiting on an SEC document, members will be able
to buy units in the amount $2 units in the blocks of 100.
*Will there be health insurance by PI?
Health insurance will be provided by Allianz. You will be able to pay it monthly, still in
negotiations.
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Now Hawaii from post #621

Bryan spoke first.

PIPS have experienced rapid growth over the last 3 months.

The world’s financial institutions have woken up to what is happening with PIPS.

Banks have tried to lock up PIPS monies or tried to close them down.

Due to these acts they have lost 100 million in the last 3 months in revenue.
Bryan didn’t clarify this but I take this as being potential revenue.

Problems with withdrawals began with the credit card fraud and charge backs etc. Over a seven week span there was 3 million dollars worth of credit card fraud.

Then with the lost HKSB they had to return to EON Bank who got down to doing just 12 wire transfers per day. With something like 600 withdrawals requests coming in and only 12 being done you can see why there is a backlog.

Then the big news PIC Trust Bank Limited due to open in about 3 months.
A Fully licenced class A bank. The management team is all in place waiting to go. The bank is next door to the Royal Palace.
Royal Canada and ANZ (the bloodsucker that I bank with) are also setting up in Cambodia as well.

The plan is to have PIC Banks worldwide.

PIPS Realty. The domain name is PIC Realty because someone purchased the name PIPS Realty so to extract a large fee. Bryan wasn’t prepared to play ball on that one.

SEC has been into the PIPS offices five times due to complaints and they basically now come in have a cup of tea and leave.

PICPAY auctions set up to complete with EBAY.

They are looking at buying a hotel in Nalai so they can accommodate the people who will come over to do training for the various franchises.

The company who are blending and roasting the coffee for the coffee houses etc. are doing it exclusively for PIPS.

All products are done in house.

100’s of garments have already been made.

Men’s and as well as women.

Kids collection will come.

Kalia Chelvan UN.

This speech was the one that surprised me.

He stated that the UN do a very in depth investigation before they get involved with any organization.

He stated corporations come in and say what can you do for us. Basically asking what will we get out of this?

Bryan etc. went in and basically said “We will do it and we will worry about the rest later. That is we will worry about what we will get in return after we have helped you set up the projects etc.

For me these statements were the most powerful made all day.

One it showed a very important world organization had investigated PIPS and found that what they were doing was totally legit. The UN wouldn’t want to be receiving monies from a company making monies from a PONZI scheme. Or a company that was set to fail very quickly which would leave a lot of people very upset.

Also it showed that the leadership of PIPS was more interested in helping others than making money for themselves.

Tom Broadbridge. PIPS Premiere Inc.

Tom basically outlined why they believe the product they are bringing out will make the billions that has been predicted.

Bryan stated investments are compounding faster than personal accounts are compounding.

Membership is currently 190 000 to 200 000.

Expect to have one million members by end of year

3% program will open once PIC Bank opens. This is because they don’t want to start moving monies around and banks freezing the accounts etc.

Bank licence is due within the next month.

You can map what happened to what from the above listing.
Approx 5 - 6 months between both meets.

paddy

Thanks, Paddy.

Now, setting aside emotions and such, what were the main focal points, what was working, what was being developed, and what was future.....put them into categories first. We don't need to do this publicly, each interested member can do this themselves from your list.

I would suggest: 1 = Working (ex.Pips proper) 2 = Newly established (ex. Realty/Mortgage) 3 = Pending (Fashion) 4 = Short term (PSK) and 5 = Long Term.

For future reference in this discussion, we will talk about 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 in terms of operations. I would consider the Bistro and Coffee house to be a 1 \ 2 depending on what you consider "new". Anything that was around and working prior to summer 2005 would be a 1, but they were still working out bugs.

Once we have had time to establish our hierarchy, we'll move on to the ABC's of operations : Actual/Achievable, BIP [business in progress] (needing finishing/improvement/fixing), and Concept (not yet ready for market)

Everyone with me?

Arcturus

With ya so far Arcturus.....got my map!

pips working , pic pay working , bistros working , pips priemier working , pips realty working , pips fashion show done i believe , 5ytp not yet , bank not yet ,

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

Thanks, Paddy.

Now, setting aside emotions and such, what were the main focal points, what was working, what was being developed, and what was future.....put them into categories first. We don't need to do this publicly, each interested member can do this themselves from your list.

I would suggest: 1 = Working (ex.Pips proper) 2 = Newly established (ex. Realty/Mortgage) 3 = Pending (Fashion) 4 = Short term (PSK) and 5 = Long Term.

For future reference in this discussion, we will talk about 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 in terms of operations. I would consider the Bistro and Coffee house to be a 1 \ 2 depending on what you consider "new". Anything that was around and working prior to summer 2005 would be a 1, but they were still working out bugs.

Once we have had time to establish our hierarchy, we'll move on to the ABC's of operations : Actual/Achievable, BIP [business in progress] (needing finishing/improvement/fixing), and Concept (not yet ready for market)

Everyone with me?

Arcturus

Interesting,

Seems we are stalled on this question, what was working? In reality, the only thing that we can determine was working is Fashion and Premier, which judging from what I know, the fashion shop is still open in mall, and with recent announcement of more DVD episodes, we have to assume these are making money and were not impacted by BN seizure.

OK, rather than dwell on what was not working, and have been frozen, we know Bistro was a loser, and obviously, shut down and probably at this point, destroyed as most boarded up operations are in that area. It was robbed and stripped of Plasma and furniture, so who knows what it looks like inside now after months of being boarded up. Coffee shop I have not heard anything on this, so maybe someone else can let us know if this is still open.

This leaves us with Premier, so perhaps it is time for Tom to let us know how they are doing, after all, it was our money which launched it, so I feel it would be nice to hear how our investment is doing since Bryan is under some kind of gag order. (g)

Good luck to all, Mike

No, Mike, not stalled.....resting.

Actually, I put this out there so that we could add up our 1, 2, 3, etc. Now that everyone is on the same page with this, it leads to logistics of operations. After we examine the theoretical business model, we'll move on to the actual model. After that, I do believe that many lights currently off will switch on..........

Arcturus

Not to sound a little off but the saying "....the lights are on but nobody's home...." comes to mind.

A lttle AM humor. This post gets so very serious and indepth I am inclined to re-read much of what is posted because of all the information which has enlightened my knowledge of the mechanics behind People In Profit.

Thank you ArcturusI and the many others that decided to created this walk through.

Carry on.

Kozmar

By all means people, let's get the light switch "On".

Everwiser

Yesterday I heard a quote said to be from Winston Churchill. I thought it was good.


"When you are going through hell, keep going."

It sure feels like that at the moment.

Joy