Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

I'm hurt, Mike (lol)......It wasn't BM who told us of the name originally, and he didn't hand over a bag of money. As I recall, funds were transferred and the "deal" was being handled by MM. It was another "good friend" inside the company that told us the name of the individual through weekly "calls". That money was later told to be missing.

To be fair, I did not see that actual wire transfer, but then, I never saw all the CC transactions either. Maybe they don't exist???? Maybe no one really loaned any money at all? After all, I didn't see your proof of a spend in the program. Hmmmmmmm.

Pippyman, I refuse to play this inane game with you. YOU have made my point. "The sky is blue. Prove it. Look up. I have a white ceiling. Go outside. Prove there is an outside." See how it goes? I ask a relevant question, and the answer is an attack on BM, and demand for proof? That is not how one finds truth.

MEMBERS: Doesn't it bother you that it's "OK" to attack BM and any support for the "innocent until proven guilty" argument, but that ANYTHING that is said in support or against those who "abandoned" the membership is instantly attacked and shut out as "no proof?"

And what about the actions of those since? The bank thing was done and over LONG before August 2005. We never got an explanation for why, did we? When pressed, we then found out the "deal" never happened, never had a chance.

What about GIG? What about VicTrading? What about the other programs (CU's, etc.)? Can't focus on the facts there, because that is not allowed.

PROVE me wrong. I DARE YOU! Maybe that will get your attention (but probably not......) You want my proof? YOU won't go away......THEY won't go away........BM is still working in the shop as best he can.

".....I got 'yer proof right here....." (for all you Soprano's fans...)

Arcturus

Don't be hurt, my point is, very few even heard about any money missing from this bank deal, and certainly, I never heard it from Bryan it ever happened, and as you said, everytime some of us pressed for information from Bryan, there was dead silence. We all know what Bryan has always said, so if it was spoken about on any calls, I never heard it, and even if I did, unless it came from Bryan's mouth it didn't happen.

It appears you heard it from someone inside, so I assume it was GN you are referring to since no one else was inside who would know at that time. I learned something new as I had never heard any money from this supposed deal ever passed hands. And if it did, without the bank being a done deal, then someone was either stupid, or a thief, which is it? So many facts we just don't know, and we probably never will. LOL

Good luck to all, Mike

Bryan wrote in this very forum that Mr. MM had been sent to open the bank and that he was still MIA.

At first, guest1, it was another person....but Mike is right, and so are you. Far be it for me to make any accusations, wouldn't want to get SUED or anything......(*****cough, cough***** -- sorry, choked on my coffee)

My main, point, friends, is that we *DO* have enough proof to know things, and one of those things is that they are still around and banging away. Why? And will anyone answer my questions, or those raised by Taxman? Nice to see you back, btw. Was getting worried about you.

Arcturus

Originally Posted by guest1

Bryan wrote in this very forum that Mr. MM had been sent to open the bank and that he was still MIA.

Really, oh well, I must have missed that one. I find it hard to believe that one person was sent to open a bank that was clearly a new entity, or was suppose to be, and why was this person sent, who was this person? I hear a friend, but with the friends Bryan was picking, who needs enemies.

Good luck to all, Mike

Don't quote me on this, but all the pointers have indicated that the 'friends' were hired from GN's pool of acquaintances, with Bryan's approval I would imagine but if you trust the original person why would you doubt the recommendation?

Originally Posted by guest1

Bryan wrote in this very forum that Mr. MM had been sent to open the bank and that he was still MIA.

guest1

Yes that is right. And as I said just because the person is MIA does not mean the funds are MIA. I have never heard nor saw anyone prove that the funds were missing. It didnt come from Bryan did it? I have NEVER seen him claim such a thing. If so can you show me where?

This again!!!??? Good thing I won't say what I'm thinking.........

Pippyman, look for your conspiracies everywhere, that is your right. Look for your proof just as hard. Don't discount ANYTHING that you may hear, but remember that the world exists in spite of you, not for you. Don't take my word for it....but then don't assume that I don't know, either.

Arcturus

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Really, oh well, I must have missed that one. I find it hard to believe that one person was sent to open a bank that was clearly a new entity, or was suppose to be, and why was this person sent, who was this person? I hear a friend, but with the friends Bryan was picking, who needs enemies.

Good luck to all, Mike

Mike,
This is the thread that he was referring to
http://rolclub.com/showthread.php?t=4482&page=1

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

MEMBERS: Doesn't it bother you that it's "OK" to attack BM and any support for the "innocent until proven guilty" argument, but that ANYTHING that is said in support or against those who "abandoned" the membership is instantly attacked and shut out as "no proof?"

Arcturus

yes, this bother's me!.....it gives me a rash

sooo, where are THEY?! who knows the answer to that question? .... anybody here?... someone must know. If what they claim is true, and Bryan is the bad guy.... why aren't they here?!... it isn't difficult to defend the truth. It would seem that they would be here, defending themselves from these accusations.... and providing some 'facts' ... what's stopping them? BNM .... and the 'relevent authorities'?

lovely day, isn't it?

If Owen Splatt is a ghost writer, who hired him to write the book ?

Who supplied him with confidential documents which he says he has gotten.
SOMEBODY paid him to write the thing - he didn't do it for the glory,
nobody has commissioned him to write about Plexpay for instance or Gins.
So he does not have a philanthropic interest in these things.

I have been reading about ghost writers and they can be hired for nominal fees, and they will write everything from a little ditty on a Christmas card to a novel or works of history, presidential speeches...

Someone wants Bryan discredited.

WHY ?? $$$$$$ is the only thing that comes to mind.


I have heard time and time again about the 'worthless' pieces of real estate that PIPS had in Malaysia, where the Bistro ect where put up...Land speculators when developing under valued property will go into these kinds of neighborhoods and begin revitalization projects. It doesn’t happen over night, but these key properties will end up being keystones in that community. They make money in the long run, not short term investing. So certainly right now, if you were to make a trip to there, and take a look at the real estate since there is nothing going it it would appear to look worthless and run down. Especially if you don’t know anything about land promotion and real estate.

Just some points of interest about information which they keep pointing to. Which I do not make sense of.