Thread: Truth Revealed...at Last!!!

God has created all of us. Doesn't matter what skin color we are. But prejudice is real and exist in this world. Sad, yes. But truthfully, we are all prejudice of some sort. :) I am a bigot against blue skinned ppl that have white polka dots. I'm just kidding.

theBat$ just tightening some loose screws.

Largo,

There is a maxim that goes, "Race does not exist but Racism does!" Thanks for the post, but will we ever learn?

Primer22

Originally Posted by primer22

Largo,

There is a maxim that goes, "Race does not exist but Racism does!" Thanks for the post, but will we ever learn?

Primer22

Hopefully we will...

With more guys like you...we will...

Largo

As I'm a believer of the motto:
That which has been achieved once in the PAST...
can AGAIN be achieved in the PRESENT.

THEREFORE I belive that BM will come through witha Stronger and even BETTER pgm...

As I really believe that we TOGETHER cna builda BETTER world

let's take a look at the ROLE MODEL existing before the DELUGE...
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Secrets of that forgotten world

BEFOREthe great disaster


About the author
Jonathan Gray has travelled the world to gather data
on ancient mysteries. A serious student of pre-history,
he has investigated numerous archaeological sites, and
has also penetrated some largely un-explored areas,
including parts of the Amazon headwaters.


PREFACE
It was Black November. Two billion or more people, with their
astonishing technology,
vanished from the face of the earth. This lost super
race beat us to the moon, computers and nuclear war.
In that popular book Dead Men’s Secrets, Jonathan Gray uncovered some
startling information about this super civilisation that was wiped out in a
cosmic disaster.
More astonishing discoveries continue to surface and confirm the basic
thesis of that book.


It is now time to take a very close look at
the big event itself… the disaster
that minced to atoms that advanced world.

This is not intended to be a detailed reference work, but a simple, straightforward
explanation of the main factors involved. For the reader who wants
to dig deeper, there is an abundance of further information available.
But first a note concerning the date of that event. When Dead Men’s
Secrets was released, the author was prepared to go along with the common
estimate that the post-Flood civilisations of Egypt, Sumeria, etcetra, sprang
up suddenly around 3000 B.C.
Nevertheless, it was felt necessary to state (Dead Men’s Secrets, page 349)
that “the precise time… may be subject to revision.” That prediction has
proven justified. New research requires that the date of the Deluge be
revised closer to our time, to 2345 B.C. Numerous and varied methods
support this revision.*
*Details appear in Book 3 of this series, The Corpse Came Back.

As a consequence, the rapid post-Flood rise of the new civilisations would
require similar adjustment.
Dates from c.2250 onward are not affected. The date of the Babel world
government collapse is as solid as ever. It will be seen, however, that there
is a considerable shortening of history between the Deluge disaster and the
Babel episode.
The estimated number of active volcanoes at that time should also be
changed - drastically increased, in fact.
It will be noted that the above adjustments are in the realm of numbers, not
in the facts themselves.


Welcome to a new adventure in discovery.


PROLOGUE
“Porrett is coming out of his apartment… GET READY.”
“The wind’s wild. …It’ s gonna be hard to hit him!”
“This is our only chance. DON’T MISS! …NOW!”
A fast aim… skidding tyres… CRASH…
“Let’ s get outta here!”
George Porrett struggled to his feet, flicking off the mud. “Boy, was that
close!” he thought. “They missed me again.” He glanced upward.
Somehow Porrett felt protected. ‘THANK YOU,” he breathed.
“…Hello, George. You’ re looking shaken. Come in. Come in. …What
is it?”

“There’s been another attempt on my life.”
“Just a minute. Betty, call Ray and Ken. Get them in right away.”
“…It’s open warfare, guys. These photographs are hot. This whole
discovery. They’re out to silence us…”

Much of the data had been known for a while. But now it threatened to
blow sky-high some reputations. Careers and big money were at stake. All
very upsetting. One or two persons were getting so strung up about it, they
would do anything. Yes, even kill.

This book is about LIFE and DEATH, LOVE and HATE. The big stuff.
It’s about THAT discovery - a haunting secret from our past.
You might wonder how the distant past could ever arouse men to threaten
each other now. But, as you read on, you may understand why some
people currently consider this so important.

Briefly, this is the discovery…


DISCOVERED –

Buried alive! From Australia to Alaska:
billions of corpses of animals and people.


Violently mixed: large animals of
DEEP sea and land, TOGETHER!


Elephants and tropical palm trees:
SUDDENLY entombed in ice.


TODAY
our earth is spoiled and mostly
uninhabitable. But this was not
always so.


THERE WAS A TIME
when everything lived under a giant,
protective canopy. The atmosphere was
temperature-controlled. It was a

paradise planet.


THEN SOMETHING HAPPENED
It was sudden. A whole world vanished.
This sudden disappearance is like a
mystery thriller with the last pages
torn out… except that…


THERE ARE ALSO
Legends – racial traditions –that speak of
such an event. And they recall what really
happened.


BUT THE REAL SHOCKER

Is the physical evidence. The killing of a
whole planet is the most astonishing
true story you’ll ever hear.


FACT… MYSTERY… ADVENTURE…
In Dead Men’ s Secrets, an investigation was made into lost cities of the
dead and the surprising discoveries they held. We explored our planet’s
jungles, desert sands and seafloor to extract forgotten secrets of a
technology that had vanished. There emerged tantalising hints of a lost
super race that had been wiped out in some cosmic disaster.


Now it’ s time to peer closer into that mysterious lost world. We shall
discover the event that snuffed it out. And its impact on those who
survived and on their descendants. Indeed, as we shall find, shock waves
from this event are still being felt today. Dead men will talk to us. Make
no mistake. The implications are dynamite.
Nevertheless, our quest is not based on ancient texts and reports, but on
accepted scientific discoveries. There are recently discovered objects that
cannot be dismissed - namely
artefacts and corpses, entombed in the
violently damaged structure of the earth’ s crust. Some are in museums.
These speak in thundertones of a disaster which was sudden and total.


Stand by for adventure… - gigantic adventure.

Come with me now, far back into the centre of the Great Unknown. Our
destination: a strange planet (albeit our own), 5,000 years in the past.
We shall look in upon
this super world that vanished so completely we
thought it never existed.


Let’ s begin.


CITY UNDER THE SEA
“ It’ s too bizarre!”
I stared at Doug. Was he nuts?
“But it’s true,” he repeated. “He was found here. Poor thing. Had no
chance. Whatever happened, it was all so sudden. He was snap-frozen.”
Doug cracked his knuckles. “… just like that!
“Didn’ t even have time to swallow. When they found him, the freshchewed
veges were still on his tongue. Fresh food in his stomach… still
there, undigested.
“And here - fresh, ripe plums, still on the branches. Snap frozen, I tell you.
Then suddenly buried beneath hundreds of feet of muck.
“And over here… ”
I caught Doug’ s excitement. Bent over the map, jumping from place to
place, he pointed out the spots.
Now he was in Alaska, now in Siberia… Antarctica too.
‘BUT THEY’RE TROPICAL’ ” I protested. “What are tropical animals
and plants doing frozen in ice?”
“Not ice,” corrected Doug. “ It’s FROZEN water-laid muck.”
Yes, it was all so bizarre. But true! There was the evidence! What could
have happened so suddenly that day long ago?
It was time to find out…


A SUDDEN CHANGE: PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
As my investigation proceeded, it soon became clear that there was
evidence for an ancient globally warm climate - from pole to pole. That
itself was astonishing enough. But the next discovery was to be no less
startling.
It must have changed SUDDENLY. So suddenly that tropical animals
were snap-frozen in mid-motion, to be preserved to this day with
undigested food in their stomachs!
Something
deadly and very sudden wiped out the population, changed the
climate, and REVERSED the land and water distribution of this planet.
Did you get that? I’ll repeat it.


There is evidence that our planet - this planet Earth of ours - was once
subtropical from pole to pole and that - believe it or not - the SEA LEVEL
stood 2 or 3 miles LOWER than now.

There is evidence that something deadly and very SUDDEN changed the
climate in a flash, reversed the land and water distribution of the globe and
virtually wiped out the world’s population.

Yes, I know somebody will say I’m off my rocker. But before you do, let
me state that THERE IS PERSUASIVE EVIDENCE THAT THE WORLD
WAS ONCE VASTLY DIFFERENT.
And compelling also is the evidence that WHATEVER CHANGED IT
OCCURRED SUDDENLY.



A DAMAGED PLANET
In fact, I have rarely investigated anything I thought was more factual.
I am now convinced that not so long ago there occurred a watery
catastrophe of such magnitude that the earth is still reeling from its
onslaught.
This global deluge explains why today’s world is far from perfect. We
inhabit a planet that has been DAMAGED and IMPOVERISHED, still
suffering the effects of a worldwide disaster.
You will notice from the graph below that water covers almost three
quarters of our planet’ s surface.
Of the 30 percent area that is land, less than half is suitable for habitation at
present. In other words, only 18 percent of our planet’s surface is now
suitable for human habitation.
Large areas now under perpetual desert or ice were once lush, fertile and
inhabited. Large areas now under the sea were likewise habitable. I shall
give you evidence of this.
Then something happened suddenly. It changed everything.
Yes, we are now living on a planet that is DAMAGED and
IMPOVERISHED.

But this is not all. The earth after the Disaster was not only considerably
reduced in land area. But even in this SHRUNKEN land surface area, the
fertility of the soil and the natural resources necessary for human progress
are UNEQUALLY distributed and LARGELY BURIED.
But this was not so before the Great Flood.
There! I’ve said it. I’ve said
something that is anathema to the established theory of world history. I’ve
mentioned the GREAT FLOOD.


DROWNED LAND
The Hitler war was now three years in the past. The Swedish research ship
“Albatross” had just returned from a peaceful reconnaissance in the South
Atlantic.
Had you peeped through a lattice window in a little house outside
Stockholm, you might have seen two men, one of them bearded, huddled
across a table, engaged in lively talk.
One of them, in fact, looked almost wild-eyed. But, knowing him as a
well-balanced, sober man, you would have to admit that whatever it was
that now had him so excited must be something extraordinary.
“ I swear to you, it’s incredible! Do you know, we were sounding the
seabed 700 miles east of Brazil. And we brought up core samples of freshwater
plants! Can you believe that! And do you know how deep they
were? Three thousand metres! These samples actually contained microorganisms,
twigs, plants and even tree bark.”
The speaker was Professor Hans Pettersson, who had led the expedition.
“ I cannot explain it - except that that land must have sunk on the spot.”


ANOTHER DISCOVERY
Within a similar time frame, discussion was hot in London. Coral had
been recovered from depths of over 3,000 feet (1,000 metres) in mid-
Atlantic Ocean sites. Now we all know that coral grows only close to sea
level.
So in London, England, someone else was making a chilling diagnosis:
“ Either the seabed dropped thousands of feet or the sea rose mightily.”


AND STILL ANOTHER
Meanwhile, at ColumbiaUniversity in the U.S.A., Professor Maurice
Ewing, a prominent marine geologist, was reporting on an expedition that
had descended to submerged plateaus at a depth of 5,000 feet.
He was being interrogated. “ Tell us, what did you find?”
“ It’ s quite amazing,” was his response. “At five thousand feet down, the
expeditioners discovered prehistoric beach sand. It was brought up in one
case from a depth of two miles and the other nearly three and one half
miles, far from any place where beaches exist today.”
“How far from land was this?”
“One deposit was 1,200 miles from the nearest land.”
As we all know, sandy beaches form from waves breaking on the edge of
the coastal rim of the seas. Beach sand does not form deep down on the
ocean bottom.
Then Dr. Ewing dropped his bombshell: “ Either the land must have sunk
two or three miles or the sea must have been two or three miles lower than
now. Either conclusion is startling.” (M. Ewing, “New Discoveries on the Mid-
Atlantic Ridge,” National Geographic Magazine, Vol. XCVI, No.5 - Nov. 1949)


WHAT THIS MEANS
These facts can be interpreted in only two ways: either there was a mighty
ocean bed subsidence (unexplainable by orthodox science), or a huge
(likewise unexplained) addition of water to the ocean.
Let’ s briefly consider these.


1. Sudden subsidence
Otto Muck draws attention to the sharp, fine profiles of much of the
landscape that is now drowned by the ocean. He notes:
“ The sharp, fine profiles would have been eroded, and the lava covering the
ocean floor would have decayed if all this rocky terrain had been immersed
in sea water for more than 15,000 years. Chemical forces are very
destructive, but mechanical forces are equally so. Sharp edges and points
can be ground down and blunted by abrasion, erosion, and the action of
waves. But the entire seabed below the present surf zone has retained its
sharpness of profile. Had the subsidence taken place gradually, chemical
and other forces would have ground down this sharp profile within a few
hundred years.” (Otto Muck, The Secret of Atlantis, p.146)
If the land had sunk slowly, even the surf would have worn away these
profiles. No, it was a rapid subsidence, if a subsidence it was.
This sudden collapse of an area covering many millions of square miles
must have been accompanied by violent seismic and volcanic activity. The
evidence does not support a gradual sinking, but rather a cataclysmic event.
Such subsidence is perfectly in keeping with the centuries-long adjustments
that occurred after the Great Flood trauma. These will be explained in
detail in the third book of this series.


2. Pre-Flood sea level lower
However, some of the data strongly suggest that the sea level actually was
several thousand feet lower than at present - that there was LESS WATER
in the ocean at one time. These discoveries suggest that we are uncovering
evidence of a former sea level!
But this would call for a relatively sudden increase of 30 percent in the
volume of the ocean. The compelling question is, WHERE DID THIS
WATER COME FROM? Few geologists can bring themselves to answer
this.
Obviously, melting ice sheets could never have contained enough water to
raise the ocean level thousands of feet. So we can forget melting ice sheets
being the cause.


CITY ON THE SEABED?
Now for another surprise. This time the excitement was in the Pacific. The
year was 1965. A research vessel named “Anton Brunn” was investigating
the Nazca Trench, off Peru.
The sonar operator called for the captain.
“ I don’ t know what to make of this,” he murmured. “Around here, the
ocean floor is all mud bottom. But just take in these sonar recordings…
unusual shapes on the ocean floor! I’m puzzled.”
“Better lower a camera,” came the order.
At a depth of 6,000 feet a photograph revealed huge upright pillars and
walls, some of which seemed to have writing on them. In other nearby
locations, apparently artificially shaped stones lay on their sides, as though
they had toppled over.
The crew rubbed their eyes and kept staring. Could this really be? … the
remains of a city under a mass of water more than a mile deep!
Was this a city that had been overwhelmed suddenly by some gigantic
disaster? And now it was buried under 6,000 feet (2,000 metres) of ocean?
Water which never went away.
… Thus begins our investigation of a lost world - one which was like a
paradise, in many ways. It was different beyond our wildest dreams. Yet it
was a REAL WORLD. As real as ours.
In the next three chapters we shall probe its treasures, peer into its
mysteries and uncover a few of its tantalising secrets. Are you ready?
Let’ s sneak back in time…



Jonathan Gray
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Some ASTONISHING evidence...don't you think?


Largo

Are you Tired of WAITING...?
Do you need A BREAK...?
Maybe A VACATION...?

Well...you can join me on a trip to PARADISE PLANET...
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ANTARCTICA’S PALMBEACHES
“Can you believe it!” shouted Giselle. “ Look, look! There’ s a waterskiier!”
“Can’ t be!” I retorted.
“Yes, yes, look!”
The very word “water-skiier” was enough to awaken a stampede.
Everyone crammed against the starboard windows. Our plane dipped down
to a thousand feet. Sure enough, behind a powerboat, on a small stretch of
water skimmed some guy in a wet suit.
“ It’ s minus sixty out there!” someone exclaimed.
There was good reason for the fuss. This was Antarctica, you see. Just
down the coast a 200 mile-per-hour blizzard was raging, whipping up a
deadly ice cloud. But here, in frozen sunshine, skied a Frenchman.

I recalled with amusement that some years ago the French government had
passed a law for its Adelie Land territory in Antarctica, exempting its
inhabitants from military service - when its only inhabitants were penguins!
Now Antarctica had a French research base. And we knew, dropping out
of the sky unannounced, that we were their first visual contact with the
outside world in six months.
Antarctica… Between the stark white ice cliffs and the black of the ocean
below us appeared a ribbon of milky blue, where the ice plunged under the
water. It was so beautiful, I just gasped.
Yet it is a bleak and deadly land. That water-skier could not dry off under
a tropical palm.

Not any more.

A WORLDWIDE WARM CLIMATE
There is definite evidence that our planet once presented a warm
subtropical climate from pole to pole.
._ Corals, which grow only in warm waters (of at least 20 degrees
Centigrade) once grew near the poles. Canada, Alaska,
Newfoundland, Greenland and Spitzbergen contain fossil coral.

._ Coal seams are also found near the poles. The vast coal beds are
simply fossilised remains of trees and plants.

._ The remains of animals now confined to warm regions are found all
over the earth.

Vegetation and animals
._ Antarctica: In 1976, an Italian expedition discovered away below
the ice - a petrified forest!

._ Antarctica: The Admiral Byrd expedition found and photographed a
mountain composed totally of coal, indicating former lush growth
here. They also found ancient palm trees under the ice.

._ Antarctica: In 1968, in the mountains of central Antarctica, an
American expedition came upon the jaw bone of a crocodile-like
amphibian (called a labyrinthodont), as well as skeletons of other
animals - creatures that could have survived only in a warm to hot
climate. Similar finds were made again in 1986.

._ Northern polar regions: Abundant remains of tropical animals have
been uncovered in icy Greenland, Alaska and Siberia.

._ In these same northern polar regions are numerous fossil trees:
beech, myrtle, laurel, breadfruit, cinnamen, oak, walnut, banana,
grape vines, and so on. And from a line north of Labrador across to
Alaska: giant sequoias.

._ Spitzbergen and Greenland now shiver in darkness for half of the
year and lie almost continuously under snow and ice. Yet a rich,
temperate flora once covered these icy wastes in the Arctic Ocean.
Fossil remains of magnolias, fig trees, palms, arborescent ferns
(which are typically tropical) and animals from warm climates have
been discovered… also pines, firs, spruces, cypresses, elms, hazels
and water lilies.

._ South polar region: Redwood forests are found buried under massive
ice deposits. These towering giants (now typically found in the
north-west of the U.S.A.) once flourished in many diverse parts of
the world, as evidenced by many coal and fossil finds.

._ Back to the Arctic Circle: Here are two very interesting island
groups - the New Siberian Islands and the Spitzbergen Islands.
Remarkable things have been reported by explorers who have been
there. Immense frozen gravel mounts were discovered to have
entombed within them entire fruit trees with the fruit still on them.
(D.G. Whitley, “ The Ivory Islands in the Arctic Ocean” , Journal of the Philosophical
Society of Great Britain, XII, 1910, p.49. Cited in Earth in Upheaval, by Immanuel
Velikovsky, Dell ed., 1955, p.19)

._ In the New Siberian Islands, whole palm trees have been found, with
their leaves and fruit.


Tropical animals cannot live in icy water. Neither can sub-tropical plants
ripen seeds and sow themselves in arctic conditions.

ONE CLIMATE WORLDWIDE

Geologist George McCready Price sums up the findings:
“ If we listen to the unequivocal testimony of tropical plants and animals
found away to the north and even within the arctic regions, we must declare
that geology knows only one climate until this
sudden changecame; and
this astonishing climate seems to have been practically uniform over the
entire globe.” (George McCready Price, The New Geology. Mountain View, Calif.: Pacific
Press Publishing Association, 1923, p.654)


Others concur:

“ There is but one climate known to the ancient fossil world as revealed by
the plants and animals entombed in the rocks, and the climate was a mantle
of springlike loveliness which seems to have prevailed continuously over
the whole globe. Just how the world could have thus been warmed all over
may be a matter of conjecture; that it was so warmed effectively and
continuously is a matter of fact.” (Alfred Russell Wallace, The Geographical
Distribution of Animals, Vol 1. New York: Harper and Brothers, 1876, p. 277)

“When nearly the same plants are found in Greenland and Guinea; when
the same species, now extinct, are met with of equal development at the
equator as at the pole, we cannot but admit that at this period the
temperature of the globe was nearly alike everywhere.
“What we now call climate was unknown in these geological times. There
seems to have been then only one climate over the whole globe.” (Sir William
Dawson, geologist, cited by Samuel Kinns, Moses and Geology. London: Cassell and
Company, 1886, p.166)

Paleobotanist R.W. Chaney has shown from fossil plants that the climate
was slightly warmer near the equator and cooler near the poles. (R.W.
Chaney, Bulletin of the Geological Society of America, 51 : 469-488. Scientific Monthly, 51 :
489-499) There were these slight differences of latitude climate, but not the
present zonal extremes.
Overall, the climate of Planet Earth was mild and
springlike, perfect from pole to pole.

This same warm global climate
IN ALL SO-CALLED “AGES” OF STRATA
Worldwide warm climate seems to be indicated in practically every socalled
“ age” of rock strata. This is generally acknowledged. Whitcomb and
Morris, in The Genesis Flood, cite testimony to this universally mild and
warm climate in the subdivision rocks of the Proterozoic (Azoic),
Paleozoic, Mesozoic and Cenozoic “ periods” - that is, in practically all the
strata (p.243-245). Basically all of these strata contain the buried life of the
ancient world.
To many geologists this is perplexing.
For example, von Engeln and Caster say concerning the Jurassic system:
“ This universal tropicality is difficult to explain.” (O.D. von Engeln and Kenneth
E. Caster, Geology. New York: McGraw-Hill Book Co., Inc., 1952, p.491. Whitcomb and
Morris, p.250-255)

THIS ANCIENT WORLD EXISTED
WITHIN THE MEMORY OF MANKIND
There is good reason to believe that this world of perfect climate existed
within the memory of the human race.
The traditions of ancient humanity preserve the recollection of it.
The ancient Chinese say that before the great Catastrophe, “four seasons
succeeded each other regularly and without confusion. There were no
impetuous winds, nor excessive rains. The sun and moon, without ever
being clouded, furnished a light purer and brighter than now.” (Harold T.
Wilkins, Mysteries of Ancient South America. Secaucus, N.J.: Citadel Press, 1974, p.30)

Numerous ancient traditions contain details of the world “before the
Flood” , details which seem to stem from a common origin: the original
perfect state; a glorious land; long age spans;
but growing disobedience
to spiritual laws -
and eventual destruction.

A VERY DIFFERENT WORLD
There is evidence that the entire earth was VERY DIFFERENT FROM
THAT WHICH WE NOW EXPERIENCE. It was a fabulous world
beyond our power to imagine, much less to describe.
There were no ice caps, no blizzards or rigors of arctic cold, no diseasebreeding
heat of the tropics.
There were no enormous wastelands. No deserts, barren patches, or bleak
and sterile hills. The rocky features were hidden, everywhere covered with
a mantle of fertile soil.

Mountains
The mountain ranges were not the same high, forbidding walls as found in
the world of today. They were much lower, covered with vegetation, and
did not seriously interfere with the climate as do today’ s mountains.
As E.H. Colbert noted in Scientific Monthly:
“ The land was low and there were no high mountains forming physical or
climatic barriers.” (E.H. Colbert, “ Evolutionary Growth Rates in the Dinosaurs” , Scientific
Monthly, August 1949, p.71)

Ocean beds
Conversely, the ocean beds were relatively shallower than now.

Land distribution
There is evidence that the land and water areas were more evenly
distributed, with more land than water, perhaps very much more. The great
ocean basins of today did not exist. Instead, the land was partitioned by
narrow seas and possibly shallow epi-continental seas (or marshes) in some
regions of the earth.
Have you noticed on maps how many of the contours of the continental
shores seem to fit like so many parts of a big puzzle? The distribution of
fossils indicates that the present continental masses were once joined.
This has led to the idea among many scientists of “ continental drift” -
something speculated to have occurred over millions of years.
But could it just as well have happened suddenly through some massive
upheaval of our earth?
Today the study of the ocean floor confirms that the land masses HAVE
been RIPPED apart.

Yes, there used to be ONE continental land mass.
The western continental shelf of Africa is believed to have fitted like a
jigsaw piece into South America’ s eastern side. However, the small
amount of erosion of these matching lines suggests not millions of years,
but a fairly recent ripping apart.
Up to this point, we have considered only solid proven FACTS - facts that
can be physically examined. Such as those from which we deduce a former
ONE continental land mass, for example.
But here, I shall introduce an ancient document. Would it surprise you to
learn that world history as given in the biblical book of Genesis agrees with
this? Originally, so the record goes, “ the waters were gathered into ONE
place” in contrast to the “ dry land.” (Genesis 1:9,10)
Perhaps there is some truth in its “myths” , after all!

As we advance into our discovery of known FACTS concerning the lost
“ paradise” world and what caused it to vanish, I believe we shall see
increasing evidence that this often scorned book of Genesis does indeed
contain forgotten knowledge of the past.
Without apology, therefore I shall occasionally mention its references to
that vanished world.

Watering system
Genesis tells us that one central river system branched into four rivers
which extended and encircled areas of land. (Genesis 2:10-14)
At least five “ pre-Flood” regions are identified - Eden, Havilah, Cush,
Asshur and Nod.
(Speculation is futile regarding the site of Eden’s famous “garden” ; the
upheaval that changed the first world was thorough.)
In those days no part of the land was too far from water; thus warm water
currents were able to contribute to a mild climate everywhere. There was
less range between highs and lows.

Extensive underground waterways served as a subirrigation system. The
warm waters below the earth’ s crust emerged through great artesian springs
to feed the surface rivers. (In Genesis 7:11 these are called “ the fountains
of the great deep” .)
Remains of these subterranean streams have been discovered. We call
them geosynclines.

No winds, storms or rain
We have noted the uniformly warm temperatures and the much gentler
topography of this original world.
Winds and storms would have been impossible, since these results basically
from interchange between hot and cold atmospheric conditions.
Cyclonic winds did not occur, but there was, by implication, the presence
of gentle breezes.
The great global air mass movements that sustain the present hydrological
cycle would have been impossible. Heavy rains could never have occurred.
Thus one can take seriously the statement in Genesis (ch. 2:5-6) that daily
local evaporation and transpiration, with evening cooling and condensation,
produced a daily mist. This would have kept the earth everywhere in a
comfortable state of humidity and provided ample moisture to sustain lush
life everywhere. There was no need for rain.
The warm waters of the narrow, shallow sea network likewise sustained a
thriving complex of marine life all over the world.

This primeval planet was indeed “ very good.” (Genesis 1:31)

Lush vegetation and animal life

The luxuriance of vegetation must have been a delight to the eyes. It was
more lush than we have ever seen - and that everywhere.
How often today do we travel through tired, dry areas of stunted plants,
which seem to frantically clutch at every available drop of water! And is it
not a relief to arrive home and rest our delighted eyes on the fresh
greenness of a tended garden?
Originally the whole earth was a fresh landscape of vegetation springing up
easily under optimum conditions. For example, in Antarctica, as we have
noted, are fossil remains of tropical and temperate trees, giant ferns, and
imprints of grasses, as well as vast layers of coal, extending almost to the
South Pole itself; also tropical animals.
Today’ s enormous coal beds worldwide are irrefutable proof of the
unparalleled luxuriance of plant life in the old world.
To be continued…
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BUT...BUT...What about the Weatherman on TV...?

Largo

Largo, if you are starting a new religion you are on the right road....

Tasha27...

I'm just telling what HAS HAPPENED in the PAST...
Backed up by PHYSICAL EVIDENCE...

I know...the Scholars don't agree...
but they don't care to LOOK either..
and I DO think the existing religions is more then enough...

Regards

Largo

Originally Posted by Largo

Tasha27...

I'm just telling what HAS HAPPENED in the PAST...
Backed up by PHYSICAL EVIDENCE...

I know...the Scholars don't agree...
but they don't care to LOOK either..
and I DO think the existing religions is more then enough...

Regards

Largo

Great answer Largo

Why these Stories of the Past?

What I'm trying to do here is to deliver a CRASH COURSE in:”the HISTORY of MANKIND..."
WHY...?

Because of the events that points to that a BIG CHANGE is just around the corner sort of speak...AND the events occurring now and as has been in the last 5 years...points to a PARADIGM SHIFT happening in the near future...
What does this have to do with the DELUGE...Noah...Nimrod...Tower of Babel...Abraham...the offering of the Lamb... Sodom and Gomorra...Joseph...the Purpose of the Great Pyramids...Moses...the Sinai Mountain...Joshua and Jericho...David...Salomon...Jesus The CHRIST...Joseph of Armeteya...The Vatican State...The KOLBRIN...The Jews...The Bush Administration...The EU...The NEW WORLD ORDER...AND the legendary ARK Of the COVENANT…Created by MOSES as directed by The Lord Himself...at Mount Sinai...and, among other things, contain the Stone Tablets of the the Ten Commandments…?

EVERYTHING...
Let me explain...

I’m doing this in the Very Forums with a Relation to PIPS…namely
ROLforum…AUSpipsforum…NAIR’sForum and IFFforum…
In the ROLforum I tell about the World BEFORE the Great Deluge…
In the AUSforum I tell about the World DURING the Deluge….
In the Nair & IFF forums I tell about the World AFTER the Deluge…

I will then continue with the FINDINGS DISCOVERED about:
The Tower Of BABEL
Abraham
Sodom & Gomorra
Joseph and EGYPT
Moses and The Exodus
Mount Sinai
The Promised Land
Joshua and The Walls of Jericho
Solomon’s Temple
The BABYLON conquer
The CHRIST
Joseph of Arimetea
The KOLBRIN
The Vatican Hierachy
The NEW WORLD Order
The EU
The BUSH Administration

AND FINALLY…
HOW THIS RELATES to the very situation we are in right now as PIPSTERS…
Anyone Interested…?

Largo

Largo, I can only say that you are great person and your posts mean a lot to once that understand your interpretation.

Keep up good spirit. We are almost there.