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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    Sounds exiting Wacky....

    I have a feeling that this could be the thing that'll bring us the NEW WORLD ORDER...

    One of Peace, Happiness and LOVE...

    Just A FEELING of Mine..

    Largo
    You're right!

    Harnessing the power of resonance can enable us to create user-friendly, highly efficient & effective technology that re-establishes & co-exists in harmony with natural balance.

    Machines that empower us without creating dependence. After the industrial and the information age, this new age will be known as the Concept Age which will create new opportinities to enlighten human beings.

    I know you agree about the above, we can poineer the movement.

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    Right on Wacky...

    One only have to SIMULATE the frequency of the LOVE that is the UNIVERSAL CONSTANT and has been since the beginning of time...

    If ALL the different systems of any kind whatsoever, could in just ONE instant of time be in RESONACE...we would at that moment HAVE started a NEW and FRESH beginning of EXISTENCE...

    So why don't prepare oneself to say HI to your Neighbor in a FRIENDLY Way... just as an experiment...you would be surprised of the response...
    Because we are here dealing with something that is lying dormant within the very core of every being...just needing a PUSH in the right direction to
    come ALIVE again...this is the thing that made you TICK in the first place...

    SO...why not BE ALIVE again...

    AND...I don't think THe Creator of ALL would disapprove...

    Just look around you and OBSERVE the state of mind common to this society...

    I do think The Creator will APPROVE loudly...


    Just a thought...

    Largo

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    In fact that's the reason why the Universe is in motion. Resonance inside every sub atomic particle is always in the process of multiplying and harmonising itself.

    As you correctly understood, it happens even on a human level.

    Even the creator will approve, she (the creator) permeats everything because her nature is one of resonance too. She was the one who started the processes resonance is performing anyway. The process of cause and effect, the SHM (simple harmonic motion) in atoms & galaxies and ongoing creation.

    And in order to accellerate this process we have been created with a conscious mind that aloows us to become aware of resonance's will to replicate & harmonise so that we can consciously intervene and help it (I also notice that it rewards us when we do).

    I believe this process came about mainly because of darwinian evolution, however I'm aware Darwin's theory doesn't fully explain how some creatures learned to survive using intelligent behaviours like migration (in birds and cattles), hibernation, or colonies with social roles (as those of bees and ants). So although I agree much with Darwin, I'm still aware that nature has some sort of conscious, decision making intelligence that coordinates and causes synchronicities to occur.

    Is this intelligence God?
    Frankly I don't care what it's called... I just care that it's there and I know it because I'm currently enough in harmony with it that I attract events, material assistance and like minded people (like you, just to prove it's true to those reading).

    Imagine technology that can harness this intrinsic power of nature? What are the possibilities?

    I'm sure you'll want to comment.

    Wacky

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    Rightly so largo, we must keep an open mind to all that science presents and a careful watch on the results.
    I love everything about nature and draw great energy when immersed in those wonders. Man has never found a way to harmonise with such a delicate balance and never will untill it is too late. Already we are losing species after species in the plant world, gene after gene in the animal world. Such losses can never be recovered.
    Man belongs in the great cosmos called chaos, the universe as we see it, and the world around us, governed by unseen forces that will unfold events without any intervention. What we do as humans can only effect our own enviroment and eco system, a shifting balance that depends on our position in space too and those of our neighbours. Just remove one of the planets and watch what happens.
    Where then can we apply resonance in such chaos and does it exist?
    Resonance suggests a steady state, where all the elements that contribute are constant. A plant has if it,s nutrients, water and sunlight are a constant. When these exist the plant grows, throughout its life and within seasonal changes, at a resonate frequency.
    We can liken that to riding over speed bumps. At a certain speed, your up and down oscillations in the vehicle are constant....reducing the level of the speed bumps does not decrease this frequency, you are therefore at resonance even though your creative input has been reduced.
    Resonant frequency then implies we can reduce, but not remove, the essential ingredients to maintain growth or life. All living matter has the ability to store and create within its own biological make up, this information.
    We may then ask, given this equalibrium that all things being equal and the necessary elements exist, why do those same life forms die off.
    We may rightly say that chaos rules and has no rules, for existance sits on a different plain for all living matter, no two like things have the same pattern.
    Death is written into the seed, is irrevokable no matter how carefully one tends and nutures it,s needs. Change, if we or nature produce such would take many many years to write such information into the next generation, for existance has to experience and learn, by degree, that such changes are for the good, or worse, life or a quick exit of that species.
    I am no expert but science will not be happy untill it has screwed around and modified all aspects of all living species. What man has made, modified and tampered with will take an eon to undo, if we survive that long.
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    As I base much of my ”CONVICTIONS” on the concept of :

    “That wich has been achieved in the past…
    Can also be achieved in the present…”

    So let’s not get STUCK in what is possible regarding ANYTHING…
    Let’s NOT create a BOX of our own…with walls, floor and a ceiling
    That will LIMIT our thoughts…
    SO…with that cleared up…let’s find out what Jonathan Gray is up to…
    Jonathan…what’s up…?
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    COULD YOU REALLY LIVE TO BE 600?

    “He’ s too old. It’ s time to kill him!” Old Olaf cringed as he overhead his
    family planning his demise. But he couldn’ t escape. That was the custom
    on these Hebrides Islands, off the coast of Scotland.
    There have been some big changes over the years. And one of these is how
    long we live.
    So how long do you think we could live, given the chance?
    And that brings me to another question: WAS THERE A TIME WHEN
    LONG LIFE WAS REALLY WITHIN OUR GRASP?
    The answer to the second question is… YES. THERE WAS THAT TIME.

    RACIAL TRADITIONS

    Everything in the “ pre-Flood” environment favoured the continued
    production of larger, stronger, longer-lived specimens of every type of
    creature. The fossil record confirms this picture.
    It should be noted that the memory of past long life in mankind is found in
    nearly all traditional writings. The best known, of course, is the Bible. It
    states very plainly that early man enjoyed a life expectancy of almost a
    thousand years. It is difficult to conceive of anything like this today;
    it is much easier to be skeptical.

    Nevertheless, accounts of man once living to a great age occur in the
    folklores and traditions of almost every ancient race. Egypt, Syria, Persia,
    India and Greece all possess traditions of a long-lived race during a
    previous age.


    ¤ Theopompus (c.378-300 B.C.) stated that a now sunken land was
    inhabited by men of gigantic size who lived twice as long as now.
    ¤ A Transylvanian gipsy tradition relates that “ there was a time when
    men lived forever and when neither worry nor sickness troubled
    them. Meat and fruits existed in abundance, and the rivers flowed
    with milk and wine. Men and animals lived happy lives and were
    without fear of death.” Then came a worldwide Flood. (A.M.
    Rehwinkel, The Flood. Saint Louis, Missouri : Concordia Publishing House, 1951,
    p.140)
    ¤ Flavius Josephus, Jewish historian, cited earlier historians who
    claimed “ that the ancients lived a thousand years.” (Josephus, Antiquities
    of the Jews)
    ¤ The Chibchas of Peru have a legend of a hero who lived for 2,000
    years.
    ¤ The people of Yunnan, China, have preserved the memory of an age
    when all were prosperous and lived hundreds of years.
    ¤ The Greeks and Romans suggested ages of 800 to 1,000 years
    (reminding us of the biblical figures).


    If we are to believe that such records are based on a core of truth, then
    something dramatic must have happened. What changed the situation?
    Since this change occurred, the average life span of mankind has remained
    relatively constant over the past 3,000 years, though on rare occasions,
    certain individuals may live considerably longer.


    ¤ In eastern India, even in historical times, there were people who
    lived 400 years, according to Pliny and Solinus.
    ¤ In the Hebrides Islands, west of Scotland, there existed the custom of
    putting to death those who, after 150 to 200 years, had become so
    decrepit, that they were considered useless.
    ¤ In 1933, the New York Times announced the death of Professor Li
    Chung Yun who, born in 1677, had attained his 256th birthday.
    Those who saw him claimed he did not appear older than 52! He had
    outlived 23 wives and was living with his 24th at the time.
    ¤ In 1956, Mrs Maria Garson Viuda de Castaneda of Cucunuba
    produced a birth certificate in Bogota, Columbia, showing she was
    born December 30, 1778. Medical evidence supported her claim to
    be 177.
    ¤ As recently as 2003, the Guardian newspaper (United Kingdom)
    announced that a woman at least 124 years old had been found in the
    war-torn republic of Chechnya. Zabani Khachukayeva’ s passport
    stated that she is 124 years old. Doctors, however, believed she may
    be even older. Apart from having impaired hearing, she was declared
    to be in relatively good health and said that she still felt energetic.
    Khachukayeva had outlived her eldest son, who died in 2001, and enjoyed
    24 grandchildren, 38 great-grandchildren, and 7 great-great-grandchildren.


    Warren Matthews commented: “ There you go. It is possible to live to 120
    years of age free from disease and still retain all of your faculties! Ever
    wondered how these people who live a long time in good health usually
    come from poor parts of the world and do not have the benefit of the so
    called ‘health’ system that we have in the Western world? Maybe they can
    thank the lack of exposure to modern pharmaceutical drugs for their long
    life? What do you think?”
    Western scientists question such claims, including those found in the Bible.
    Judgment is made on present day experience and birth records of this
    century - the oldest age on record verified with certainty being around 120
    years. Yet 17th- to 19th century historical records discussed in textbooks on
    gerontology (the study of old age) are replete with ages of up to 188 years,
    in Europe.


    ¤ The oldest living person in 1973 was claimed to be Shirali Mislimov.
    He was living at Barzavu in Azerbaijan on the Iranian border. His
    age was alleged to be 167.
    Nevertheless, American scientists refused to believe it. One can only
    assess local records and testimonies. There is no other way to measure a
    person’ s absolute age.
    ¤ I recall a news report of another man in that general region who was
    said to be 165 years old. He had not spoken to his son for 20 years,
    because the naughty young 143 year old had married a woman of
    whom his father did not approve!


    BUT IF SCIENTISTS CAN’T BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL
    LIVING TODAY, HOW WILL THEY EVER BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO
    LIVED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO?


    PERHAPS WE SHOULD BE SKEPTICAL
    EVEN OF OUR SKEPTICISM?

    Until recent years, such figures might well be regarded as absurd.
    However, today’ s medical standards and investigations of this question
    have reached a point where such claims can no longer be totally ignored,
    nor denied with a certainty that permits no doubt of any kind.
    For the moment, it can be said confidently that there is historical evidence
    to support the Bible’ s account and no scientific reasons for doubting it.
    The fact that we do not now live for 800 to 900 years does not mean that
    such longevity was never possible.

    WHAT SOME SCIENTISTS SAY

    There are scientists who readily accept longer life as a reality.
    In fact, there is no biological reason why human beings die at the
    comparatively early age of 60 to 70 years. SEPARATED CELL TISSUES
    HAVE BEEN KEPT ALIVE UNDER SUITABLE CONDITIONS FOR
    AN INDEFINITE PERIOD.
    U.S. scientist Dr. Patrick Flanagan reported to author Alan Landsburg:
    “We’ ve had cells taken from the human body live in a nutrient solution
    inside a pyramid shape NINE TIMES THEIR NORMAL LIFE SPAN.”
    (Alan and Sally Landsburg, The Outer Space Connection. London: Transworld Publishers,
    Ltd., 1975, p.148, emphasis added)
    Experiments on human fibroblasts conducted by Dr. Hayflick showed fifty
    population doublings to be the limit of cellular life. When other
    experimenters added Vitamin E to the nutrient solution, the life span of the
    cultures was more than doubled. (Ibid, p.148)
    Professor Gennady Bardyshev, writing in the newspaper Sovietskaya
    Rossiya, foresees the possibility of man living for 200 years. He said
    experiments showed that by adding flat-fish fats to animal fodder, it was
    possible to increase animals’ life span by 15 to 20 percent.
    Dr Linus C. Pauling, world-renowned chemist, winner of two Nobel prizes
    and one of the most original thinkers of our time, states:
    “Death is unnatural… . Theoretically, man is quite immortal. His body
    tissues replace themselves. He is a self-repairing machine. And yet he gets
    old and dies, and the reasons for this are still a mystery.” (Ibid, p.121)
    Dr. Alex Comfort, director of research in gerontology at University
    College, London, adds his opinion:
    “ If we kept throughout life the same resistance to stress, injury and disease
    that we had at the age of ten, about one half of us here today might expect
    to survive in 700 years’ time.” (Ibid., p.121)
    Says Dr. Hans Selys, Director of the Institute of Experimental Surgery of
    Montreal University:
    “Medicine has assembled a fund of knowledge that will now serve, I
    believe, as a point of departure for studying the causes of old age. If the
    causes of ageing can be found, there is no good medical reason to believe
    that it will not be possible for science to find some practical way of slowing
    the process down, or even bringing it to a standstill.” (Hans Selys, “ Is Ageing
    Curable?” Science Digest, Vol.46, December 1959, p.1)
    “ Someday we may live almost indefinitely.” So said Dr. Bernard Strehler,
    a biologist at the University of Southern California, according to
    Newsweek.

    So much for what some scientists have been saying.


    WHEN DID WE LOSE IT?

    According to the ancient records, something extremely significant
    happened to the earth and to man at the time of the Great Flood. Whatever
    it was, it probably removed the dominant factor for long life.
    Still, you may want to ask at this point, can we really place much credence
    in ancient legends?
    Surprisingly, a great deal. Too often, I’m afraid, we have been prone to
    dismiss folklore and mythology out of hand. But is this not unscientific,
    especially since traditions have often led us to discover physical remains?

    LEGENDS ARE USUALLY
    BASED ON A CORE OF FACT

    Pertinently, William Prescott, the great Americanologist, reminds us: “A
    nation may pass away and leave only the memory of its existence, but the
    stories of science it has gathered up will endure forever.” (Andrew Tomas, We
    Are Not the First. London: Sphere, 1971)
    You see, folklore is a fossil of history. It preserves history in the guise of
    colourful tales. Far from being a collection of fables, it is a recital of actual
    past events, even though from generation to generation some facts have
    become distorted or forgotten.
    We must face it: traditions are usually based on a core of fact.
    Take the legend of Troy. No scholar took The Iliad or The Odyssey of
    Homer as history. But Schliemann, putting faith in it, discovered the
    “mythical” city of Troy. The Iliad spoke of a cup decorated with doves
    which Odysseus used. In a shaft Schliemann found that 3,000-year-old
    cup.
    Mexican Indian legends spoke of a sacred well of sacrifice, into which
    maidens and jewellery were hurled. Historians dismissed this as a mere
    tale, until the well, at Chichen Itza, was discovered in the nineteenth
    century.
    More than any document, the Bible was assailed as a collection of fanciful
    myths. Yet, to the embarrassment of the critics, archaeological discoveries
    proved time and again that the fabled cities, mythical giants and impossible
    events were true and reliable reporting in every detail. Indeed, the Bible
    can now be regarded as the most accurate and trustworthy source of history
    we possess.
    There is strong evidence as to the historical basis of the ancient traditions.
    We should be careful about discounting anything that is recorded that
    seems strange to us. The Bible in particular has an uncanny habit of being
    proved true.

    THE LOSS OF LONGEVITY

    Notice the graph below.
    Plotting the natural life span of ancient men as given in the biblical
    chronologies yields a statistically significant curve which surely argues
    strongly for the validity of the biblical records. (R. Young, Analytical
    Concordance of the Bible, 8th ed. Lutterworth Press, Guildford and London, 1977)
    In the biblical chronology, the first “ dot” of the chart represents the age of
    Adam. This is followed by each successive generation. A rapid decline in
    longevity correlates with the cosmic catastrophe that restructured the world
    in the time of Noah.
    According to Genesis, the average age was reduced from 857 years before
    the Flood, to 600 for the Flood survivor Shem, down to 147 by the time of
    Jacob, about 1850 B.C. By Solomon’ s time it was 95 years, then down to
    the Middle Ages, 35 years; and now today, up to 74 years.
    Interestingly, the ancient traditions (biblical and non-biblical) all point to a
    long life span of individuals before the Great Flood, with a gradual
    decrease of life span afterward, until we reach the well-known three-score
    and ten of historical times.
    For example, the long ages recorded in the Sumerian King List are
    suddenly reduced after the Flood to about 100 years. This compares to a
    similar rapid decrease in the biblical record.
    And scientific findings agree. Studies of so-called cave men from various
    European sites (for example those of the Cro-Magnon group) likewise
    indicate an early death for many.
    A combination of factors seem to determine this result: a harsher
    environment after the Flood, poor diet and lack of sunshine in more
    northerly latitudes in particular (with consequent proneness to rickets),
    proliferation of disease, plus a greater propensity for mutations.

    WHY LONG LIFE SPANS
    WERE POSSIBLE

    Today the probability of survival over a century is less than one percent.
    I can think of several factors which favoured longevity in the past, and
    others which intervened to bring it to an end.

    1. More vitality

    Firstly, the antedeluvian (pre-Flood) race was, according to the ancient
    records, nearer to original perfection. Man was physically healthier,
    endowed with considerably more vitality than today.
    There would have been a richer gene pool in contrast to the depleted pool
    which prevails today. Also, if the human constitution allowed for a much
    extended capability of cell multiplication, the body would have greater
    ability for self-regeneration. These factors could well have contributed not
    only to a much slower ageing process, but also to an extended procreative
    capacity.

    2. Rich virgin soil

    Antedeluvian man was nourished from rich virgin soil. This was
    devastated by the Great Flood. It washed through the original fertile soils
    and redeposited them unevenly as regards trace elements.
    The seething waters of the Deluge churned up the top soil of the earth’ s
    crust. Later, as the waters receded into the newly-opened basins we now
    call oceans, they tore the fertile soil layer from the surface and flushed it
    down to the ocean floor, leaving behind a mere vestige of the original
    nutrients. The remaining water-washed soil lost its primeval fine balance
    of raw materials, so that plants were unable to supply optimum nutrition, as
    before.
    Even apparently healthy plants in today’ s soils, while serving as good food
    sources, may be lacking in some essential element. Lack of iodine in some
    soils is one example.
    In a single cubic mile of sea water there are about 170 million tons of
    dissolved mineral salts. We do not know how much was originally in the
    seas, but undoubtedly a large amount has been flushed from the soil.
    Thus one factor contributing to our loss of longevity since the Deluge may
    be the impoverished nutrition.
    Ancient records insist that the original diet of all animals was plant matter.
    Evidently this was rich enough in all necessary nutrients even for those
    animals which today we consider carnivorous. It is possible that many
    plant types did not survive the Flood. Consequently many animals with
    their short digestive tracts were compelled to adopt a flesh diet in order to
    obtain the required nutrients in sufficient concentration.
    Likewise, man turned to eating animal flesh in order to supply deficiencies
    in a once adequate diet. This change is recorded in the book of Genesis.
    (Genesis 1:29,30; 3:18; 9:2-5) Does the short life span of carnivores when
    compared to the longer life span of herbivores tell us something? At any
    rate, man’ s life span decreased.
    Today, so deficient is nutrition, that most people on earth go to bed at night
    on empty stomachs. The favoured sections of our degenerate race now live
    on vitamin pills.

    3. The radiation factor

    One could mention another factor - radiation. It is well known that ultraviolet
    radiation from the sun is largely responsible for “ ageing” human
    tissue.
    Radiation can contribute to biological mutations. Genetic mutations cause
    deterioration in future generations, thus accounting for decreases in size
    and viability - and even extinctions of many animals. Then there are the
    somatic mutations in the body cells which cause deterioration and eventual
    death of the individual exposed to radiation. Such somatic mutations may
    thus be directly related to loss of longevity.
    The radiation-free environment of the pre-Flood world may have been one
    more factor which contributed to the long lives of humans and the large
    sizes of flora and fauna. The protective vapour canopy must certainly have
    had a modifying effect, shielding life forms from cosmic radiation. It
    filtered out the short wavelength radiations which most actively accelerate
    the ageing process.
    After the Deluge, with the water shell gone, there began the unobstructed
    bombardment of life-shortening cosmic rays. The mutation rate was
    speeded up.
    The size and strength of the average creature deteriorated. Many species
    became extinct. And the length of the life span began to decline. (These
    trends are still apparent today, although modern medicine and sanitation
    have, to some extent, masked the general trend as far as man is concerned.)

    4. The climate factor

    Another factor could have been the climate. As we noticed, the original
    world enjoyed a more agreeable climate. Stress-producing hurricanes,
    droughts and floods were unknown.
    After the deluge, the healthful subtropical and temperate climates gave way
    to the frozen ice lands and the unbearably hot tropics of the new planet.
    Extremes of climate sapped the vital force of man and animals.

    5. Carbon dioxide factor

    Before the Deluge, there was, so fossil plant remains suggest, probably more
    carbon dioxide in the air. It is claimed that a “ 50 percent decrease in the
    amount of carbon dioxide in the air will lower the average temperature of the
    earth 6.9 degrees Fahrenheit.” (Gilbert N. Plass, “Carbon Dioxide and Climate,”
    Scientific American, Variation of Lease.201, July 1959, p.42)
    A warmer climate in the past is therefore consistent with a greater
    concentration of carbon dioxide in the air at that time. Experiments show
    that with a sharp increase of carbon dioxide, tomatoes will grow and produce
    much better than in today’ s normal atmosphere. Such a factor in the pre-
    Flood world may have been advantageous to life at that time.

    6. The catastrophe factor

    According to one theory, catastrophe itself could produce genetic mutation.
    Did the Flood and its traumatic, stressful aftermath (which persisted for
    centuries) induce a mutation that became the dominant factor in the human
    gene pool? And did that mutation rob man of his long life span?

    7. Wrong living

    Social problems must have emerged from developing a new civilisation in
    the new, harsh conditions. Linked with this, the effects of wrong living and
    disease must likewise have taken their toll, eventually.

    8. Special intervention

    The biblical record suggests yet another factor: special intervention. The
    decree went forth that in view of man’ s developed capacity for evil, his life
    span was to be limited. (Genesis 6:3; 9:3-5) It is the Creator who decides the
    life span of mankind. Were we, then, programmed to die earlier?
    Michael Maconochie reports that one important cause of ageing is “we are
    probably programmed to die. There is almost certainly genetic material in
    our molecular DNA - the biological building blocks which everyone is made
    from - which tells the body to switch itself off, permanently, at about 120
    years of age.”
    At universities and medical research centres around the world, the multibillion
    dollar Human Genome project is under way. Genetic scientists are
    attempting a solution to this problem. (New Woman, Feb. 1993, p.88-90)

    QUALITY – NOT JUST LIFE

    Meanwhile, would you like to lengthen your life and enjoy it?
    Apart from the usual big three - regular exercise, sensible diet and vitamin
    supplements - Maconochie has this to say:
    “Concentrate on grains, vegetables, pulses and fruit - in that order.”
    Evidently, it does work. The book of Genesis tells us that man’ s original diet
    was vegetarian. (Genesis 1:29-30)
    Hundreds of studies of one group, the Seventh-day Adventists, have revealed
    that the lifestyle they follow helps prevent disease, maintain health and
    promote longevity. Detroit News book reviewer Kate De Smet found that
    half of North American Adventists were strict vegetarians and teetotallers
    who lived 12 years longer than the general American population and “ have
    lower fatality rates for the 10 leading causes of death in America.” (Reviewing
    the book by Chris Rucker and Jan Hoffman, The Seventh-day Diet (Random House), 1991)
    Researcher Chris Rucker added to this his claim that this vegetarian group
    have more stamina and energy than others and “ feel and behave decades
    younger than their years. They refuse to believe that aches and pains are a
    normal part of the ageing process, nor do they believe that mental
    deterioration is inevitable.” (Chris Rucker in an interview with the U.S. magazine
    Bottom Line, 1991)
    In this regard, Maconochie’ s point is relevant:
    “ Living forever loses its attraction, however, if we simply age, then live
    indefinitely in a fragile, disease-prone state. What’ s the point of being 120
    if we can’ t play tennis?”
    Jonathan Gray
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    Some evidence that one can’t easily put aside…don’t you think?
    SO…how about it…?
    Do YOU want to live a couple of hundred years more…?
    Juist Curious…
    Largo

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    I've read this thread with much interest and I enjoy reading it very much. To me it's as clear as daylight. I had a lot of questions about history an much of the answers I had to figure out for myself. Answers about ancient civilisations and why scientis nowadays dare to insist these could not have been as advanced as "ours". Confronted with facts I just had to think otherwise. I also had questions about why intelligence was deteriorating in centuries. Why for instance elaborate solutions are being fabricated when these were already solved eons ago but the answer had been lost. The same solution never occured again. You know, all we have is built on very very clever solutions made available to us centuries or maybe longer ago.
    It seems all people and all races had already met and have known eachother on every continent millenia ago. People were taller and lived longer too. And there must have been some kind of harmony because there is little known about any conflicts back then. Little to none. Funny thing to me is that history keeps repeating itself. Over and over again. But it didnt start repeating itself before the great flood. Further then that there simply is no record.

    I'm rambling but I just had these questions and asked myself why all these Dr. and Drs., PhD and all kind of studied people just never asked themselves these questions.
    Anyways, this thread is just underlines to me that everything could be better if we all just want it to be.

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    Thanks Boink,

    Your reflections is like a gentle breeze to me...
    especially the last part:

    "I'm rambling but I just had these questions and asked myself why all these Dr. and Drs., PhD and all kind of studied people just never asked themselves these questions.
    Anyways, this thread is just underlines to me that everything could be better if we all just want it to be."

    You really hit the nail on the head with that one...

    Largo

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    Let’s talk about HARMONY…

    HARMONY, is for me, the thing that I’m always are trying to achieve….
    No matter WHAT situation...
    No matter WHAT circumstances…
    No matter WHAT program…
    No matter WHAT conflict…
    No matter WHAT group of people...

    As I’ve also observed that most of the people around me is trying to achieve the same…
    I’ve to ask...How about YOU?
    Do YOU have the same urge inside?
    I don’t think I’ve met ONE single person who DOESN’T have this urge…
    HOW COME?

    I have no answer to this…no more than it is possible that all of us are DESTINED to achieve this. Maybe it’s the very FUNDAMENTAL BASE for our EXISTENCE. Why these big words one can ask? Well…as I’ve also observed that there is one MANIFESTATION created by many people that speak the language of HARMONY in such a way that:
    ALL WILL AGREE…
    No matter WHAT religion…
    No matter WHAT political party…
    No Matter WHAT race or colour…
    ALL WILL UNDERSTAND…
    ALL WILL BE AFFECTED…

    People will cry…
    People will laugh…
    People will scream…
    People will be silent…
    People will be ecstatic…
    People will be high…
    People will be low…
    People will jump up and down…
    People will move around in circles…

    And it’s ALL ABOUT HARMONY…

    What it is?

    It’s MUSIC my friends…
    MUSIC IS HARMONY ALL OVER THE WORLD…

    Just take some of your favourite tunes and play it again in your mind…
    PURE HARMONY!

    MY choices would be:
    IMAGINE-John Lennon
    Let It Be – The Beatles
    Hey Jude – The Beatles
    Bohemian Rhapsody – The Queen
    And more:
    MILORD – Edit Piaff
    In The Mood – Glenn Miller
    Bolero – Ravel
    Caravan – The Ventures

    And I could go on, and on, and on, and on…

    What’s YOUR favourite tune?

    Finally… let’s unite in a HUGE SYMPHONY of HARMONY...

    To the tunes of LET IT BE:
    “…speaking words of wisdom…Pips is Back…Pips is Back…”

    Are you with me…?

    If anyone could post the whole text with my suggested changes…
    That would be really helpful…

    Largo

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    Quote Originally Posted by boink
    I'm rambling but I just had these questions and asked myself why all these Dr. and Drs., PhD and all kind of studied people just never asked themselves these questions.
    Anyways, this thread is just underlines to me that everything could be better if we all just want it to be.
    If Dr.'s really "knew" anything, their jobs wouldn't be called "practices"...Sorry Marek; no offense meant. I just couldn't resist.

    Seriously though, there are those that believe the shortened lifespan of man also comes from the fact that about the same time as the flood. God, angry at the decadence of man, believed that man should not live so long. Around this time (and written in Genesis) God decreed that man could now eat the flesh of animals. It was about this same time that man began cooking most if not all of his food. Prior to this man was allowed the fruits and vegetables that the Earth provided which man ate in their natural (i.e. "raw") form. There have been studies done that persons eating an all "raw" diet of fruits and vegetables have fewer health problems than their cooked food, meat-eating counterparts.

    Just a little "food" for thought...

    Everwiser
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    "Maybe GOD isn't omnipotent. Maybe he's just been around so long that he knows everything..."

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    Well Folks…
    With NO answer yet from BN about the outcome of the investigation…

    …let’s look into ANOTHER very interesting and pretty much ASTONISHING Investigation…
    whichd be INSTRUMENTAL in bringing us all closer together and awakening a desire
    in each and everyone of us to UNITE all over the world…
    …and together start building as BETTER One…

    Here’s a letter I received recently from my dear friend Jonathan Gray…
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Largo, what if your skin suddenly changed color?
    Listen to this…
    “The hands and face of Jaron Yaltan are a pallid
    white - like those of millions of other Englishmen.
    Only the edges of his ears are different, if you look
    closely. They are brown.”
    This is the sole clue - outwardly - to the fact that
    Jaron Yaltan is a white man who was born black in
    Ahmedabad, South India.
    Suddenly, when he was 60, the brown fell away in
    huge patches as the rare pigment cell disorder vitiligo
    changed his colour within the space of six days.
    It has aroused radical reaction from his former friends.
    "This is the white man's burden. I am carrying it
    now," says Jaron. "And, believe me, it is very
    heavy."

    This brings us to a fascinating question:
    IF THE WORLD WAS WIPED OUT, EXCEPT FOR
    A SINGLE GROUP OF SURVIVORS, THEN
    HOWEVER COULD ALL TODAY'S VARIATIONS
    IN THE HUMAN RACE HAVE OCCURRED IN
    JUST A FEW THOUSAND YEARS SINCE THAT
    TIME?


    What about the Australian Aborigines, for example,
    and the Chinese, and so on?
    Frankly, I'll confess that for ages I found this to be a
    problem for scientific acceptance of a 100 percent
    Great Flood total wipe-out.
    That's because I did not know enough about genetics.
    Take skin colour, for example. If you didn't know,
    mankind actually has only one skin color. That
    color shows up as different shades in proportion to the
    amount of melanin in the skin. (Melanin is a coloring
    compound.)

    Melanin protects our bodies by absorbing
    ultra-violet (UV) radiation from sunlight which falls
    on the skin.
    Darker-skinned people have more melanin, which
    renders their skin more sunlight resistant. Thus they
    are better suited to hotter climates. Lighter-skinned
    people are better suited to a cooler environment.

    GOVERNED BY TWO PAIRS OF GENES
    Research has shown that there are 19 alleles (pair of
    genes combined with other groups of genes) for
    skin color, but for the sake of simplicity, let us
    suppose right now that there are only two genes.
    John Mackay B.Sc. writes that "if a person from a
    pure white European background marries a person
    from a pure black Negro background, their children
    will be an intermediate brown colour.

    "This brownish colour is called 'mulatto'. If two
    MULATTOS marry, unlike their parents they DO NOT
    produce children which have the same color.
    "The offspring can be ANY OF NINE COLORS, from
    pure white through to pure black."

    Thus "if we started today with one pair of middle-brown
    colored people (similar to the mulattos), we could
    produce all the racial colours in the world, NOT IN
    MILLIONS OF YEARS, NOR IN THOUSANDS OF
    YEARS, BUT IN ONLY ONE GENERATION." (Ex
    Nihilo, vol.6, no.4, May, 1984)
    Did you get that? In just one generation!

    We here have only dealt with 4 alleles for color and
    have found there can be nine skin shades with those
    four alleles. Imagine the number of skin shades there
    can be with 19 alleles!

    HOW IT WORKS
    A child receives half its genes from each parent. Let's
    call these genes A and B. The genes have partners, a
    and b.
    Genes A and B are good at producing melanin (which
    darkens the skin). Result: A person with two pairs
    of genes AA and BB will have darker skin.
    Genes a and b both produce less melanin. Result: A
    person with two pairs of genes aa and bb will have very
    light skin.
    A person with gene pairs Aa and Bb (let's write it
    as AaBb) will have medium-coloured skin.
    And so on.

    Now, suppose both parents are AaBb (medium-brown).
    The mother gives the child two genes for skin colour -
    one from type A or a, the other from B or b. The father
    likewise gives two genes for skin colour - one from
    type A or a, the other from B or b.
    So each of these middle-brown parents with AaBb can
    give his/her children any one of the following pairs of
    gene combinations: AB, Ab, aB or ab.

    For example, suppose each parent passes on the AB
    combination to the new child. The mother gives the
    child AB. The father gives the child AB. Result: The
    child will be born with AABB - and thus will be PURE
    BLACK.
    But if both parents pass on the ab combination (the
    mother giving the child ab; the father giving the
    child ab), then what?

    Result: The child will be born
    with aabb - and will be PURE WHITE…

    ... EVEN THOUGH BOTH PARENTS WERE
    MEDIUM-BROWN SKINNED!


    HOW COLOUR BECOMES PERMANENT
    Notice that the PURE BLACK child is born AABB -
    that is, he has no genes for lightness. If a group of pure
    black persons is isolated, their offspring will be only
    black. These children will have lost the ability to be
    "white".
    Likewise, when aabb children marry their own type
    (pure white) and move away to interbreed only
    among themselves, they will produce from now on
    only white offspring. They have lost their ability
    to be black. They no longer have genes to produce
    a great deal of melanin.

    If we started today with just two MIDDLE-BROWN
    parents, they could produce extreme racial colors
    (BLACK and WHITE), in a way that races
    would have PERMANENTLY DIFFERENT colors.
    A fixed middle-brown colour could also be produced.
    If the original middle-brown parents produce children
    of either AAbb or aaBB and these offspring move
    away and interact only with their kind, their
    descendants will be a fixed middle-brown color.

    REVERSING THE PROCESS
    Despite marked differences, the races would
    disappear if total inter-marriage were practised today.
    There would reappear a brown coloured majority,
    with a sprinkling of every other shade permitted within
    the genetic pool.
    The genes for Chinese almond eyes, black skin or
    white, etcetra, would still exist, but the combinations
    would be different.
    Interestingly, you can find the characteristics of
    ANY race in EVERY race.

    For example, some Europeans have broad, flat noses,
    and others have short, frizzy hair, but on average
    Europeans do not have these features.
    The same sorts of genetic recombinations that have
    produced skin color variations have produced other
    body variations - straight hair, wavy hair, eye shape,
    eye color, body height, and so on.
    We do not know the total number of gene differences
    which mark off a Negro from a white Dane.
    One authority considers it unlikely that there are more
    than six pairs of genes in which the white race
    differs characteristically from the black.
    (William C. Boyd (Professor of Immunochemistry
    at Boston School of Medicine), Genetics and the Races
    of Man. P.200ff)

    GENES FOR ALL RACES EXISTED AT THE
    START

    The first man was designed with the best possible
    combination of skin-color genes for his perfect created
    environment.
    The Great Flood radically altered that environment.
    Evidently, Mr Noah's family possessed genes for both
    light and dark skin, dark enough to protect them, yet light
    enough to ensure sufficient Vitamin D.

    ALL RACIAL VARIETIES COULD
    APPEAR IN JUST ONE GENERATION

    From the above data it can be seen that all the known
    varieties of skin color could come from one pair
    of mid-brown parents IN ONE GENERATION.
    In general, racial characteristics are recombinations of
    pre-existing, created hereditary (genetic) information.
    They have not evolved and they do not require a long
    time to become apparent.


    Let's be clear on this. There has been no evolution of
    genes that did not previously exist. All that has
    occurred is the recombination and degeneration of
    created genetic information.


    The splitting up of a large group into many smaller
    groups who became isolated from each other would
    provide the ideal condition for the RAPID
    APPEARANCE of many different racial groups with
    distinct characteristics.
    This is doubtless what occurred. There is overwhelming
    archaeological evidence for a common origin for all
    races on this planet. (Jonathan Gray, Dead Men's
    Secrets, p.16-19.
    http:www.archaeologyanswers.com )

    In Book 3 of this series, we shall touch on the fact of
    an original common language for the whole human
    race - and how a dispersion occurred from an area
    of the Middle East. The biblical account of this
    event (supported by many ancient traditions of nations
    everywhere) fits the evidence well.
    The scattering of mankind shortly after the Great
    Flood, when their language was suddenly confused, was
    the catalyst that produced the variations now seen.

    IT HAS NOT TAKEN COUNTLESS
    MILLENNIA TO PRODUCE THE DIFFERENCES
    WE SEE TODAY.

    Before leaving this question, it may be of interest to
    note a comment by Professor William C. Boyd,
    Professor of Immunochemistry at the Boston University
    School of Medicine:
    "We should not be surprised if identical genes crop up
    in all corners of the earth, or if the over-all racial
    differences we detect prove to be small."
    "We do not know the total number of gene differences
    which mark off a Negro of the Alur tribe in the Belgian
    Congo from a white native of Haderslev, Denmark."

    Glass has suggested that the number of gene
    differences even in such a case is probably small.
    Besides a few genes for skin colour, he thinks that
    there may be a dominant gene for kinky hair and a
    pair or two of genes for facial features.
    He considers it unlikely that there are more than
    six pairs of genes in which the white race differs
    characteristically from the black.
    This estimate errs somewhat on the small side, in the
    opinion of the present writer.

    Probably, however, it is of the right order of
    magnitude, and any outraged conviction that the
    difference between the two races must be much greater
    than this, which some persons might feel, is likely to
    be based on emotional, rather than rational, factors."
    (William C. Boyd, Genetics and the Races of Man, p.
    200f.)
    The differences did not take countless ages to produce.
    The same may be said for the numerous species of
    every plant and animal form on earth.

    Well, Largo, does this arouse your curiosity about
    some other secrets of our real past?
    Then stay tuned…


    Very best wishes,
    Jonathan Gray
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    What can I say?
    What can beat this…
    SO…if your skin have a higher degree of MELANIN, it’s ok to
    suppress you as a being to become a slave to those who’s skin
    have a lesser percentage of MELANIN…?
    VERY LOGICAL…isn’t it?
    Largo

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