Thread: When "hope" becomes denial

Second Mouse,

You are right. I just tried putting 2% per day together, and totally lost track!

Seriously, I don't want/mean to pick on you. In addition to shooting down dissenters with an angel-like touch, you try to console people and that is worthy.

By the way, the quote you cited comes from Buddhism and is "the farther one travels, the less one knows" and it is quite true; as is the contrary notion that you "already know all there is to know, it is just a task of waking up and remembering."

Time will tell who is/was wise about PIPS.

I thought that SoulSerfer is more intelligent but finding him/her posting at TG and having fun with Dogman on us, make me sick to see how people can sneak in here under cover. His/her well written English could easily fool you what is behind his/her intentions and what really want to pass evil spell.
Those people over there from TG are really tireless and endless in trying to destroy our faith and beliefs.

Well, they fail every time. They are spineless creatures.

Originally Posted by second mouse

we are both advocating the same thing here... look at my reply to soulsurfer (#4)

but again.... it bears repeating, ... soulsurfers post goes beyond being negative...it is not respectful, it is condesending and insulting.... he began this thread.... don't defend him from the backlash...... you said it yourself... "But do it with kindness and respect please" ... and he didn't!
unless what you're saying is, he can post disrespectfully, but others may not respond in kind?

and I'd still like to know the real motive behind the post? there is no good motive... it appears he intended it to be unkind....

the disrespect in this thread started with post #1.

Ok Sm, you were offended by the post, I wasnot.We can agree to disagree on this one.But a little story for you that I'm sure you'll understand. A freind of mine kept calling and e-mailing me wanting updates on pips as she had a small investment in. She lived in a diffrent country than me.I finally convinced her to come to this forum and see what was happening.She made the mistake of posting, asking a very simple question. She was called a troll, tc trash and told to go back and hide in her hole. Some made the statement that it was a first post,so she had to be everything that was being said.She was devastated and couldn't believe that people here would act that way towards her.She never returned to this forum again and won't ever again.Notice above I said lived as in use to? You see, my freind was confined to a wheelchair for the last 2 years of her life with bone cancer.She is free of the wheelchair and the cancer now, she was 23 years old. Be carefull how you read posts as they don't tell the whole story. Some people need to lighten up around here. Also in closing,some of the posters on this thread were also the ones that attacked my dear freind for no reason, but I hold no malice towards them, I would just like them to look at the bigger picture.Bigger than pips and bigger than life.Second Mouse I hope you have a great life as I am now otta here.

Originally Posted by 4profit

After reading what soulsurfer (who's soul do you try to surf anyway?) wrote:


i stopped reading.
It just isn't worth it.

Show me one post where Bryan blames anybody else?

You can't!

You are kidding right?......................Bryan is constantly blaming everybody else for the problems with PIPS. The latest is he has blamed the delays with the lotto on the programmers. Thats ALL he has done is blame somebody else.
It would be much easier if you would show us just ONE post where he has accepted responsibility for the problems. He hasnt, NOT ONE TIME. It is ALWAYS someone elses fault.

Sopranos... I DID respond...didn't you notice...

Originally Posted by Largo

Nice Try SoulSurfer…

BUT…we don’t buy it!!!
So many generalities and backwards logic maybe fit into TG’s way of thinking…
Over here in Pipsland…we call this “Thinking in a BOX”…no matter how “Logical or Reasonable” you think your message is…which it isn’t btw…We just don’t buy it…

All you are doing is try to smear and defame BM by “Talking Reasonably” with us “Poor Souls”…(who actually don’t have to SURF to find our SOULS) of how BAD he is and his POOR past performance…this is a tactic used before in history…the most flagrant example would be Hitler BAD TALKING the Jews, Gypsies and other Lower Life Beings…

We the Pipsters DO think by our selves and we all make our decisions based on our trust in our leader…BECAUSE of his compassion for helping the very needy…BECAUSE of his brilliance in creating such a thing as Pips…AND for His Past performance in this area…
QUITE a CONTRARY picture then what you’re suggesting to us as the REALITY…

So…please don’t bother to come here again…we SEE THROUGH YOUR veneer…
Go and find some souls to save over at TG…maybe even your own…?

Sorry…
We Don’t buy your story…

Largo

Newlife, I sincerely would not try to "destroy your faith or beliefs" and I wouldn't know how, but you might want to check into an update; I think "evil spells" and burning witches went out in the early 19th century.

Spineless? Three fingers back at you (yours)! Instead of skulking around, why don't you log on to TalkGold, explain how PIPS worked, why it is/was not a scam, and since you know Bryan so well, what he's doing and why he is not posting? Or, if you are too good for the "evil" people at TG, why not just do it here? Why not put your inside, deeper knowlege to work for RolClub instead of using it to trash others while keeping the "inner truth" to yourself.

You said you were "sure" an update was coming several days ago, yet none did, and it raised and dashed a lot of people's hopes here, angering some. Were you out to "destroy faith"? 'cause I believe you damaged some (in you).

Hey listen, I'll make you a deal: you post a funny song about the craziness, hypocracy and wacko behavior at TG, and I'll laugh with you about it. Otherwise, lighten up (you'll live longer!)

And please, don't assume TGers are "out to destroy" everyone at RolClub. In fact I think a majority of them are in sympathy with a majority of folks here. Maybe they just don't like a few petty tyrants. Ooops! I have no proof. But I would bet on it.

Second Mouse,

I said some nice things about you before but now I must point out that IMHO your habit of talking about me in the third person, trashing me in public as it were, especially in a thread started by me, is highly rude, condescending and disrespectful. It is like bad mouthing somebody to others while that person is in the same room. You do it all the time to anyone who comes here with an opinion unlike yours -- and it reinforces an image of you as "leader of the attack pack."

It resembles an insidious, ruthless and cowardly "passive agressive" behavior that is quite well known to the world. Who gave you a "license to trash"? If you have such a passion for attacking me, why not have the guts to do it directly, at least in a thread that I started. Instead, you are appealing to the peanut gallery of your fellow attack squad members as usual.

I realize you love attention, and you love to talk about yourself as loving, full of hope, respect and optimism and as somebody who is "too busy having fun." Is trashing people in the third person your idea of having fun? Seems so. You say you are all these things, yet your posts are full of sarcasm, cynicism, baseless accusations, defensivenss and intolerance. Anyone who has a different opinion or approach than you becomes "nasty" -- now is that kind and loving? Who are you really?

You are the wise one, able to put it all together. Tell me, how should people view you? By only what you say about yourself, or by your actual words, your behavior, your friends? What? How can you justify your rude, back-stabbing ways?

Don't worry about me! Because most of all, I view your behavior as highly immature. I remember a girl in junior high school who was a cliquish, mother-hen type cheerleader (with pom poms) who when she wasn't badmouthing those outside her small group as "weirdos" or "dullards" spent all her time trying to be the most popular girl in the school. Any situation, no matter who was involved at first, she was there, thrusting herself to the center of attention and then cooing at the response; being "nice as pie" to everyone and striving to be teachers' pet.

I am not saying you are like that. I don't know you. I am just saying your behavior reminds me of that girl. Coincidence? I doubt it. Besides, she was just a child and (I assume) you are an adult.

What gives?

Originally Posted by SoulSurfer

Second Mouse,

I said some nice things about you before but now I must point out that IMHO your habit of talking about me in the third person, trashing me in public as it were, especially in a thread started by me, is highly rude, condescending and disrespectful. It is like bad mouthing somebody to others while that person is in the same room. You do it all the time to anyone who comes here with an opinion unlike yours -- and it reinforces an image of you as "leader of the attack pack."

It resembles an insidious, ruthless and cowardly "passive agressive" behavior that is quite well known to the world. Who gave you a "license to trash"? If you have such a passion for attacking me, why not have the guts to do it directly, at least in a thread that I started. Instead, you are appealing to the peanut gallery of your fellow attack squad members as usual.

I realize you love attention, and you love to talk about yourself as loving, full of hope, respect and optimism and as somebody who is "too busy having fun." Is trashing people in the third person your idea of having fun? Seems so. You say you are all these things, yet your posts are full of sarcasm, cynicism, baseless accusations, defensivenss and intolerance. Anyone who has a different opinion or approach than you becomes "nasty" -- now is that kind and loving? Who are you really?

You are the wise one, able to put it all together. Tell me, how should people view you? By only what you say about yourself, or by your actual words, your behavior, your friends? What? How can you justify your rude, back-stabbing ways?

Don't worry about me! Because most of all, I view your behavior as highly immature. I remember a girl in junior high school who was a cliquish, mother-hen type cheerleader (with pom poms) who when she wasn't badmouthing those outside her small group as "weirdos" or "dullards" spent all her time trying to be the most popular girl in the school. Any situation, no matter who was involved at first, she was there, thrusting herself to the center of attention and then cooing at the response; being "nice as pie" to everyone and striving to be teachers' pet.

I am not saying you are like that. I don't know you. I am just saying your behavior reminds me of that girl. Coincidence? I doubt it. Besides, she was just a child and (I assume) you are an adult.

What gives?

oh oh.... careful, your TG qualities are starting to show .... you'll blow your disguise!

it's becoming pretty obvious that you came here to stir up trouble... and, like newlife says, went back to TG to probably brag. And then when you come back for another visit here... you need to bring reinforcements like Get R Done.... no matter to me. Your character shows thru in this post, you're not fooling anyone here. I'm anticiapting that your attitude will just get worse and worse... as it seems like a difficult task for you to be nice.... we can see that starting with your very first post....

one can't keep one's 'real' character under wraps for long.... it always eventually shines thru... or in cases like this, I guess 'rears it's ugly head' would be a better term.

don't mean to irritate you, but...

Have a nice day!

Originally Posted by second mouse

oh oh.... careful, your TG qualities are starting to show .... you'll blow your disguise!

it's becoming pretty obvious that you came here to stir up trouble... and, like newlife says, went back to TG to probably brag. And then when you come back for another visit here... you need to bring reinforcements like Get R Done.... no matter to me. Your character shows thru in this post, you're not fooling anyone here. I'm anticiapting that your attitude will just get worse and worse... as it seems like a difficult task for you to be nice.... we can see that starting with your very first post....

one can't keep one's 'real' character under wraps for long.... it always eventually shines thru... or in cases like this, I guess 'rears it's ugly head' would be a better term.

don't mean to irritate you, but...

Have a nice day!

You are 100% SM. He went right back to talkcrap and said how nice he was to all of us here and how we were so mean to him. I find it funny how Soulscummer said that the talkcrappers were sympathetic towards rolclub. Yea right, dogman, prophet, nojo and the rest of the clowns over there really care for all of us here.

Originally Posted by Get R. Done

You are kidding right?......................Bryan is constantly blaming everybody else for the problems with PIPS. The latest is he has blamed the delays with the lotto on the programmers. Thats ALL he has done is blame somebody else.
It would be much easier if you would show us just ONE post where he has accepted responsibility for the problems. He hasnt, NOT ONE TIME. It is ALWAYS someone elses fault.

Hi, are you there again? Did you drop the cat? He,he,he...........