Thread: Lack Of PIPS Communications

Hi. I am new this forum but have been a PIPS member since Oct 2004.

Can someone tell me what is going on, I had invested over $1200 and have had
nothing back to show for it, before the webiste went offline I was doing very well.

I also made 2 withdrawal requests and have never been paid for these either, one in March 2005 and again in June 2005 totaling about $2500

Have I lost me money forever or will there be light at the end of this tunnel.

I have been patient but for how long?

Thanks for any update

mr-mixalot, if you read some of the threads in the 'Bryan Marsdens' forum, you will learn what we all know...
it's nice to have you here .... good luck

For Everwiser and Jaytee,

The original Pips forum (I'm aware that this is not it) would probably have squashed many of your hard and unfeeling rebukes for those who have suffered losses.

You must remember that there are many who have not ventured out too far into the "investment" foray. Some of these have listened to family, friends, co-workers, etc... who drew them into this with the only intention of blessing those around them. Some of these may be known as "the shirt off your back" kind of people. Not necessarily financial wizards, but good people, people that you could trust with almost anything. The first venture out into the financial "hyip" arena was set out on with these most trusted individuals.

For whatever reasons (many of which I feel could have been anticipated and dealt with befo*****d) these hurting people find themselves nursing feelings of abandonement and betrayal, your further stinging remarks are not going to lead them into a brighter day.

You may find yourself speaking from a platform built on many other financial successes, as I'm sure that(thank God) many of us enjoy and that is great.
To stand from that viewpoint and look down your nose at those who do not have that same advantage is unfair and uncalled for.

We have all made mistakes concerning decisions we have made. We have all had to endure the resulting "monday-morning quarterbacks" who told us in great detail the many flaws in our playbook,coordination, communication and application with all the necessary follow-through.

I believe that you two would fall into the mmq category just now and it can get to a point where you really start to look like the "bad guys".

Please do not continue to demean the character or intelligence level of these people who are hurting and frustrated. Either help them, pray for them, or leave them alone and go to another thread.

You might also try taking some B-complex to help settle your nerves and relax you a little.

Hopefully we'll all do better in 2006
I only averaged about 33% on investments in 2005

Let's keep it light with the ancipation of the real deal coming back soon.
NO FLAMING NECESSARY

May His best be yours in 2006
Lloyd (mmfast)

Originally Posted by mmfast

For Everwiser and Jaytee,

The original Pips forum (I'm aware that this is not it) would probably have squashed many of your hard and unfeeling rebukes for those who have suffered losses.

You must remember that there are many who have not ventured out too far into the "investment" foray. Some of these have listened to family, friends, co-workers, etc... who drew them into this with the only intention of blessing those around them. Some of these may be known as "the shirt off your back" kind of people. Not necessarily financial wizards, but good people, people that you could trust with almost anything. The first venture out into the financial "hyip" arena was set out on with these most trusted individuals.

For whatever reasons (many of which I feel could have been anticipated and dealt with befo*****d) these hurting people find themselves nursing feelings of abandonement and betrayal, your further stinging remarks are not going to lead them into a brighter day.

You may find yourself speaking from a platform built on many other financial successes, as I'm sure that(thank God) many of us enjoy and that is great.
To stand from that viewpoint and look down your nose at those who do not have that same advantage is unfair and uncalled for.

We have all made mistakes concerning decisions we have made. We have all had to endure the resulting "monday-morning quarterbacks" who told us in great detail the many flaws in our playbook,coordination, communication and application with all the necessary follow-through.

I believe that you two would fall into the mmq category just now and it can get to a point where you really start to look like the "bad guys".

Please do not continue to demean the character or intelligence level of these people who are hurting and frustrated. Either help them, pray for them, or leave them alone and go to another thread.

You might also try taking some B-complex to help settle your nerves and relax you a little.

Hopefully we'll all do better in 2006
I only averaged about 33% on investments in 2005

Let's keep it light with the ancipation of the real deal coming back soon.
NO FLAMING NECESSARY

May His best be yours in 2006
Lloyd (mmfast)

AMEN to that Lloyd!!!

Originally Posted by Toefl

Hi vincekua, why did you move out of your country and were trying to start a new life... before you have received sufficient funds from Pips?....please don't see it as a put down, I understand you are saying things out of frustration, it's just that your decision sounds too much of a risk to me....you should have known it would be a two ways street, may be you come from a war-torn country, but that still doesn't change the fact that it was a big risk, I clearly remember some members received a few thousand dollars and then started saying they were quitting their jobs and retired.....as some members used to say, no guts no glory, sometimes in a positive environment, we all want to share the upbeat feelings, but we have to understand that a positive environment doesn't equal to a guarantee of positive result.

again, please don't see it as a put down, I understand you are frustrated and I sincerely hope that your situation will improve asap, I just want to point out that Bryan may have made some bad decisions before, but can you honestly say you have made a wise decision to take such a risk to move out of your country before you had sufficient funds whether thru Pips or not?

if Bryan were able to talk about Pips freely right now, wouldn't you say the information should be all over BN website already? even if you believe Bryan have something to hide, that eventually will have to come to light, now it's not the time to blame what or who as we simply don't know.

Thanks Toefl for the post. I moved out thinking that with the help of PIPS, I should be able to settle down in a foreign country without having to worry about getting a stable job as soon as I touch down. I'm now halfway doing my postgraduate degree, and with PIPS I thought I shouldn't worry too much about the tuition fees as it could help me pay at least part of it. The second month after I came here, PIPS was taken by BNM and that's when everything turned upside down. I had to quickly move in to a much cheaper place, had to get a secured job as soon as possible, and constantly worrying about my living expenses, yet at the same time I had to cope with the studies. Half yearly tuition fees will come in a month's time and I know I'll be struggling to pay.

Now that I'm halfway doing my degree, I can't seem to go on with the lack of funds, and I can't go home without completing that degree. It's a dilemma. Everything would be alrite if I could go home by forgoing my studies but I couldnt do that. In the country where I'm now in, you can't get a permanent job without first becoming a permanent resident which also mean I could barely survive with what I'm earning. My tax returns would help me a little to survive through maybe another 2 months IF ONLY the government releases them to me now instead of July (now you should roughly know where I am).

Yeah I'm very frustrated. On another note, maybe it's part of the learning process - I work very hard now and live well later.

Originally Posted by everwiser

Looks pretty plain to me. How do you make this out to be "false Hope", ole_mats, and/or "inside" information?

You obviously just want to stir up trouble...That's the only way to read you. If you can't understand it when it is put plainly, what makes you think you can understand anything?

Thanks for pointing out how stupid I may seem to be, when my main point is that some "prophecy" is mainly the cause of the stress.
I have no problems dealing with your oppinion about me - but that is not the issue! I cant care less - my regards is to those less lucky than me - and only that!

Originally Posted by mmfast

For Everwiser and Jaytee,

The original Pips forum (I'm aware that this is not it) would probably have squashed many of your hard and unfeeling rebukes for those who have suffered losses.

You must remember that there are many who have not ventured out too far into the "investment" foray. Some of these have listened to family, friends, co-workers, etc... who drew them into this with the only intention of blessing those around them. Some of these may be known as "the shirt off your back" kind of people. Not necessarily financial wizards, but good people, people that you could trust with almost anything. The first venture out into the financial "hyip" arena was set out on with these most trusted individuals.

For whatever reasons (many of which I feel could have been anticipated and dealt with befo*****d) these hurting people find themselves nursing feelings of abandonement and betrayal, your further stinging remarks are not going to lead them into a brighter day.

You may find yourself speaking from a platform built on many other financial successes, as I'm sure that(thank God) many of us enjoy and that is great.
To stand from that viewpoint and look down your nose at those who do not have that same advantage is unfair and uncalled for.

We have all made mistakes concerning decisions we have made. We have all had to endure the resulting "monday-morning quarterbacks" who told us in great detail the many flaws in our playbook,coordination, communication and application with all the necessary follow-through.

I believe that you two would fall into the mmq category just now and it can get to a point where you really start to look like the "bad guys".

Please do not continue to demean the character or intelligence level of these people who are hurting and frustrated. Either help them, pray for them, or leave them alone and go to another thread.

You might also try taking some B-complex to help settle your nerves and relax you a little.

Hopefully we'll all do better in 2006
I only averaged about 33% on investments in 2005

Let's keep it light with the ancipation of the real deal coming back soon.
NO FLAMING NECESSARY

May His best be yours in 2006
Lloyd (mmfast)

Amen to you too, Lloyd!

Originally Posted by second mouse

everything will be fine.
no doubt.

You may not have a clue about what the effect it have on those less fortune than me - or may be urself too, (I do not knw.)
In fact - I may have a problem explaining this to you.
If I explain it - I may even offend you - and I do not want that to happen!

And I'm thankful that BM announced something about PIPS in BM forum yesterday. Not particularly good news but at least it is something of a reassurance, a comfort that PIPS is still there and will come back. At least they are some "updates".

Originally Posted by mmfast

For Everwiser and Jaytee,

The original Pips forum (I'm aware that this is not it) would probably have squashed many of your hard and unfeeling rebukes for those who have suffered losses.

You must remember that there are many who have not ventured out too far into the "investment" foray. Some of these have listened to family, friends, co-workers, etc... who drew them into this with the only intention of blessing those around them. Some of these may be known as "the shirt off your back" kind of people. Not necessarily financial wizards, but good people, people that you could trust with almost anything. The first venture out into the financial "hyip" arena was set out on with these most trusted individuals.

For whatever reasons (many of which I feel could have been anticipated and dealt with befo*****d) these hurting people find themselves nursing feelings of abandonement and betrayal, your further stinging remarks are not going to lead them into a brighter day.

You may find yourself speaking from a platform built on many other financial successes, as I'm sure that(thank God) many of us enjoy and that is great.
To stand from that viewpoint and look down your nose at those who do not have that same advantage is unfair and uncalled for.

We have all made mistakes concerning decisions we have made. We have all had to endure the resulting "monday-morning quarterbacks" who told us in great detail the many flaws in our playbook,coordination, communication and application with all the necessary follow-through.

I believe that you two would fall into the mmq category just now and it can get to a point where you really start to look like the "bad guys".

Please do not continue to demean the character or intelligence level of these people who are hurting and frustrated. Either help them, pray for them, or leave them alone and go to another thread.

You might also try taking some B-complex to help settle your nerves and relax you a little.

Hopefully we'll all do better in 2006
I only averaged about 33% on investments in 2005

Let's keep it light with the ancipation of the real deal coming back soon.
NO FLAMING NECESSARY

May His best be yours in 2006
Lloyd (mmfast)

You assume too much about me. I don't feel I'm demeaning or rebuking anyone. I'm in a paycheck-to-paycheck life myself. Investing in Pips didn't/doesn't relieve us of any responsibility for living our own lives.The money my wife and I put into Pips was the minimum buy-in because we couldn't get a hold of nor afford any more than that. That, however, doesn't make us any more or less sincere or involved in the hopes for Pips comeback. We do what we need to do to get by. We have plans for the money when it starts coming in but we didn't presume to "jump off a financial cliff" just because there was the possibility of a huge return.

Many people on here keep beating a dead horse and/or trying to drum up loads of sympathy when in reality, the lack of withdraws was well know prior to BoN stepping in. I'm not Monday quarterbacking by pointing that out. Also, what were any of these people doing before Pips came along? Were they panhandling and complaining in the streets, because they don't hesitate to do so on any forum that will allow them too.

Vincekua has clarified his position which is far from being destitute and/or just plain stranded. He has choices and options, he just doesn't want to give up one for another. There's no bad blood there but his original post was written in a way that made it sound worse than it really appears to be.

In the end of it all, each and every one of us is responsible for ourselves. People can and do turn their lives over to God; they shouldn't give it away to anything else thinking that whatever that thing is will take care of them. People should take care of themselves and not wait for nor expect governments, churches, relatives, and most especially investment programs to step in and do it. These aforementioned items should always be the last resort because once you make yourself dependent upon any one of them, you're no longer free.