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    Quote Originally Posted by soaringeagle
    Please delete your post admin, as I had already deleted mine (that you quoted) before I saw this post of yours. (I've pm'd you also, but funny, my pm's just disappear). However, I will say this...the post copied here was not from the BTI forum (which is what you are arguing) but from a private email for BTI members only. I'm not saying Billy was right in what he did...but this is a public forum...there's a difference, and as Heden pointed out earlier, ROL does not require members to agree to not copying posts from here, so Billy did not actually violate any ROL rules. Krisark did violate BTI rules that he clearly agreed to when he joined BTI. You certainly have the right to change the rules here at ROL. IMO, I don't think copying and posting anywhere (forum to forum, email to forum, etc) is ever a good thing.
    Once again! I am not a member for all to hear and sing the praises! Rather, BTI took my lifetime membership away! So, if you're going to say and I quote...Krisark did violate BTI rules that he clearly agreed to when he joined BTI. Then, I say BTI clearly violated BTI rules when they took all (mine) our lifetime memberships away...

    You also state...However, I will say this...the post copied here was not from the BTI forum (which is what you are arguing) but from a private email for BTI members only. I am not a member so why am I receiving this? If BTI, Billy, you or anyone else doesn't want this posted or to be seen by non-members then why am I receiving these "secret" emails?

    Finally, and once again I AM NOT A MEMBER! BTI DECIDED THAT, NOT I!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy
    I have been suspicious of the posts that appear and at this point remain skeptical at times. However in a recent conversation I had with Tom
    Broadbridge of The Kids Bible, he indicated that Bryan has indeed been
    posting some in that forum. Bryan has posted that the BN investigation is
    ongoing with no end in sight yet. Many of the posts have not really
    sounded like the Bryan Marsden I knew and read posts from in the past..
    but some of the posts were consistent enough with information that I HAD
    gotten from him that I do believe at least some of them to be genuine.
    As we all know though from our experiences in the PIPS forum in the same
    forum structure.. especially in a free forum it can be hacked and abused
    and therefore is always suspect.
    ROLCLUB was not compromised. Our "Tell a friend" was used to spam, and since you did not understand how it works, then let me tell you. Its a open link, and anyboy could have used that.

    We have all security measures implemented to make it a secure place. I mean what other security measures could you have on internet making your forum more secure costing $110, and our free, especially when parts of the stuff you post on your forum is a direct copy from a FREE forum!???Maybe a compromised forum?!!!!!

    To the rest about beeing a free forum, yes we are a free forum for members and i will try to keep it this way. And to whatever you are trying to spread about us, thinking nobody would understand what your trying to do!?!

    by beeing so "suspicious"??? Just a hint, why dont you try a free forum? Atleast you wont have to be so "suspicious in your postings", in order to get some members?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin
    ROLCLUB was not compromised. Our "Tell a friend" was used to spam, and since you did not understand how it works, then let me tell you. Its a open link, and anyboy could have used that.

    We have all security measures implemented to make it a secure place. I mean what other security measures could you have on internet making your forum more secure costing $110, and our free, especially when parts of the stuff you post on your forum is a direct copy from a FREE forum!???

    To the rest about beeing a free forum, yes we are a free forum for members and i will try to keep it this way. And to whatever you are trying to spread about us, thinking nobody would understand what your trying to do!?!

    by beeing so "suspicious"??? Just a hint, why dont you try a free forum? Atleast you wont have to be so "suspicious in your postings", in order to get some members?


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    I agree........whats good for the goose is good for the gander...........Billy you copy from here...............guess what friend................yup good guess!


    So I suggest learn to deal with it. OR close down your forum because there will ALWAYS be someone who will copy and paste somewhere else. Thats why I think that is a ridiculous rule in the 1st place.......for ANY FORUM. Why make a rule that you know wont last through the 1st day? Seems pretty petty to me. Why would anybody make such a rule anyway................GOT SOMETHIN' TO HIDE?
    Seems that way to me. Come on lets face it....................There isnt anything on ANY of these forums thats "top secret" stuff anyway.........hell most of it aint worth worth reading to be honest. So Mr Billy...................learn to deal with it or dont post anymore "Top Secret CIA stuff" on your forum! Problem solved.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    I agree........whats good for the goose is good for the gander...........Billy you copy from here...............guess what friend................yup good guess!


    So I suggest learn to deal with it. OR close down your forum because there will ALWAYS be someone who will copy and paste somewhere else. Thats why I think that is a ridiculous rule in the 1st place.......for ANY FORUM. Why make a rule that you know wont last through the 1st day? Seems pretty petty to me. Why would anybody make such a rule anyway................GOT SOMETHIN' TO HIDE?
    Seems that way to me. Come on lets face it....................There isnt anything on ANY of these forums thats "top secret" stuff anyway.........hell most of it aint worth worth reading to be honest. So Mr Billy...................learn to deal with it or dont post anymore "Top Secret CIA stuff"on your forum! Problem solved.....

    Well said!

    I guess this means Billy will look up my personal email and I will no longer get his "secret" messages???!!! Guess what, I have to many contacts NOT TO GET THEM! But, I do not want an email war between ROL and BTI or myself so...disgretion will always be used. As for this last post...I say, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then I posted it and there's nothin' that can be done about it now...so CHILL!

    Good luck to all and to all a good day!

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    Yeah you gotta watch out for them damn ducks!!Never know when one of them will sneak up outa no where and get ya' ........LOL!!



    Quote Originally Posted by krisark
    Well said!

    I guess this means Billy will look up my personal email and I will no longer get his "secret" messages???!!! Guess what, I have to many contacts NOT TO GET THEM! But, I do not want an email war between ROL and BTI or myself so...disgretion will always be used. As for this last post...I say, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then I posted it and there's nothin' that can be done about it now...so CHILL!

    Good luck to all and to all a good day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    Yeah you gotta watch out for them damn ducks!!Never know when one of them will sneak up outa no where and get ya' ........LOL!!

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soaringeagle
    Srair...Not sure where you get your information. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push BTI's agenda, but by far the majority of programs they have introduced so far require very little to join (several under $100 and a couple under $500). I know of only two so far that required investments of over $1000.
    Hi Soaringeagle, Actually I get information via email from BTI, which informs members of the programs. First let me explain I'm not now a paying BTI member which means I most likely do not receive all program information. When we all orginally signed up for the old PIPS USA my wife and I both joined and paid little over $200.00 to be members. But after the change over to BTI and the creation of a monthly fee we refused to pay. So we were left with basic forum access only. The basic forum access came only after numerous emails and providing information that we had paid the orginal funds.

    Now you would think, sense we had two paid up accounts we would have access to two basic forum accounts. We do not just one so $100.00 went out the window into someones pocket. As I said earlier we had to become, a pain in the behind for one forum account. Oh! well so is life.

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