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    Quote Originally Posted by everwiser
    The way I read it, Billy is playing both sides of the fence...He's got a fair number of Pips members pulled over to BTI from when it was Pips-USA and he doesn't want to p!ss them off. He posts "heartfelt" pleas for Bryan to avail himself of some PM's or email directly to Billy at BTI; that's the one hand. Meanwhile, in hand number 2, he's "alleging" and/or "alluding to" the posts by Bryan on ROL club "may not" be Bryan and are possibly another scammer. This way he can "look" sincere like he's behind Bryan/Pips while at the same time creating doubt about the future direction of Bryan/Pips. I believe he's doing this in the hopes that more and more of BTI's membership will give up on anything to do with Pips and put more of their monies into BTI recommended programs...I may be totally off-base but that's how I read it.

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    I think you are on the money here everwiser

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    Hello Folks:
    During the past year the only conclusive information that I have been able to get from PIPS and numerous posts etc. is that chasing ones tail is The In Thing to do! I guess my puppy has it right. Take care.

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    Default This is What's Troubling To Me

    As I read thru this forum speculation is running wild. When will we learn to put speculation on the back burner and leave it there. I do wish that Bryan would provide a little additional information. I also beleive this is not asking to much. From the legal side it is understandable that he can only say so much but you have a whole family of members who are beleivers. You always present the facts and truth that you can, I have found in life that information and communications is the answer and helps people to get over hurdles. Would you rather have informed members are disgruntle ones.

    I for one have serious misgivings about the agenda of BTI as stated even in this tread others see the same. BTI is not looking out for the small investor, its easy to see just look at the programs that are being designed. Large investments are required to just enter a program. What happen to helping the regular person? Its was my understanding that help would be out there to help everyone no matter what level of funds you may have. Having said that I understand you must have some money to invest in any venture. Even with PI a investment was required but it was more in line with the normal persons finances.

    Now some may disagree but thats okay. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, just point out where things could be better. If you wonder I've been part of GW and PI from the beginning so I've been around for sometime.

    Anyway I Thank You, for the space to write my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soaringeagle
    I totally agree with this, Pippyman! Krisark, this was a clear violation of BTI rules, and Admin (ROL) it was wrong for you to ask it to be posted here.
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    So all the posts Billy copied and posted on his forum from ROLCLUB was right?
    Have i ever copied and posted any post from BTI to ROLCLUB?
    Do they care about any other TOS then their own?

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    Srair...Not sure where you get your information. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push BTI's agenda, but by far the majority of programs they have introduced so far require very little to join (several under $100 and a couple under $500). I know of only two so far that required investments of over $1000.

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    What is BTI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin
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    So all the posts Billy copied and posted on his forum from ROLCLUB was right?
    Have i ever copied and posted any post from BTI to ROLCLUB?
    Do they care about any other TOS then their own?
    Please delete your post admin, as I had already deleted mine (that you quoted) before I saw this post of yours. (I've pm'd you also, but funny, my pm's just disappear). However, I will say this...the post copied here was not from the BTI forum (which is what you are arguing) but from a private email for BTI members only. I'm not saying Billy was right in what he did...but this is a public forum...there's a difference, and as Heden pointed out earlier, ROL does not require members to agree to not copying posts from here, so Billy did not actually violate any ROL rules. Krisark did violate BTI rules that he clearly agreed to when he joined BTI. You certainly have the right to change the rules here at ROL. IMO, I don't think copying and posting anywhere (forum to forum, email to forum, etc) is ever a good thing.
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    I had quoted your post before you deleted it, so i wont delete it mate.
    We do not have a signed agreement to sign before you join Rolclub.com,

    But we do have some rules mate, and you might wish to have a look at them. Look for point nr 1. No copy pasting from Rolclub.com to other places.

    Here is the link: http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?p=4886#post4886

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippyman
    I dont think Billy would appreciate that this is posted here. I know I wouldnt. If you are a BTI member I wish that you would follow the rules of the membership.....
    Pippyman...I'm not a member of BTI! Plus my "lifetime" membership was "taken away" and now I'm expected to pay $10 a month (I never paid, isn't that a treat)...so, I will post anything sent to my personal email address, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soaringeagle
    Srair...Not sure where you get your information. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push BTI's agenda, but by far the majority of programs they have introduced so far require very little to join (several under $100 and a couple under $500). I know of only two so far that required investments of over $1000.
    Soaring eagle...the way I see it. I paid a $100 lifetime membership fee only to have that changed by Billy and BTI...I am not a member and if they choose to send me information to my personal email address, I will do what I want with it! If this offends you, BTI, etc...SO SORRY! But, I find no harm in posting this information!

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