Thread: my turn on the soapbox

I too would like to be there when that happens...Think there would be a very long line of us wanting to be front and center for it :)


Cheers
Pantherjon

Originally Posted by soaringeagle

I, for one, would sure like to be there front and center when they are tried and sentenced!!

Originally Posted by Underroo

I agree..But lets take another look at the situation of WHY there were the complaints to bring about the investigation..This is purely speculation on my part, but I have silently seen some things that give it a bit of credence..I truly believe that there was someone in the upper management that was 'pencil whipping' the withdrawals to make it APPEAR as tho those funds went to the intended recipient, where in truth the funds went into their grubby hands..If one was around when withdrawals started to slow to a trickle, you would remember that for A LOT of that time frame Bryan was occupied on ventures outside of Malaysia and left a certain person in charge of things..And remember also that Bryan kept asserting that members WERE being paid, cause he only had reports from the home office that everything was 'hunky dory here boss'..Only when he returned and took a close look at things that he got a little bit of what was going on..Just my humble opinion..There was also the 'rumor' of crooked merchants...

Cheers
Roo AKA Pantherjon(P-Jon)

Dreamer and SoaringEagle...
Finally we AGREE on something...at least for now....
remember this post from the 8:th of September....?
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Originally Posted by Dreamer
Are we then asked to believe that Bryan carried on business for months and months knowing somebody had thier hands in the till? :?

Sorry cant believe that.I will support Bryan 100% and send wellwishes, but I dont buy this conspiracy theory.





DREAMER...

AS PART 2 of WHO's WHO was not included in the above post; I post both Part 1 and Part 2 here and now....

It's Just MY OWN Thoughts...

Largo
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:16 am Post subject:

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PART ONE

WHO is WHO?

WHO had a vision to HELP the needy and the little guy?
WHO started a company to accomplish this?
WHO made the company into a Huge WORLDWIDE membership?
WHO started a LOT of humanitarian aid projects?
WHO helped a lot of people to see a brighter future?
WHO made this into a huge success?

One don't have to guess who's who here...or..

WHO was HIRED to help CONTINUE the success?
WHO was responsible for getting more banks on the line?
WHO was responsible for getting debitcard platforms operational?
WHO was responsible for MANAGING the daily operations?

Did this WHO succeed in his work?

WHO of the above wanted to HELP others?

WHO of the above wanted first and foremost to earn a big profit as fast as possible?

Could there be conflicting interests here?

HOW can one divert the intention of one who first and foremost just want to help as many people in need as possible OVER to the intention of earning a big profit as fast as possible?

THE ANSWER.....YOU CAN'T!!!!!

THEN...what to do?

IS there maybe a way to TAKE OVER the operation????

Maybe if one IN A SECRET way started to sabotage the MONEYFLOW and then blame this on ...you know WHO...don't you!

Just MY OWN thoughts.

All The Best

Largo

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PART TWO

HOW can "the greedy ONE" get more help to sabotage?
( the greedy plotting)
HOW about hiring MY PEOPLE as employees?
HOW can I convince "the generous ONE" to agree on this action?
Well, we ARE expanding, we NEED more people AND we need NEW SERVERS...let's hire some of MY people.
Lets also recommend some of MY people to the CAPITAL COMPANY!!!
Let's see now....
HOW do we proceed?

1.Find some GREEDY people in the BANKS to work with...
2. Have a server crash so we can manipulate the MONEYFLOWS....and then blame it all on "the generous ONE"... he's the one who approves and
signs all transfers anyhow...does'nt he?
3.FIND some supporters to help with the BLAMING.
3.Start a forum for PAYING members only...by MY PEOPLE Outside.
4. Give EXCLUSIVE briefings to this people ONLY.
5.Create havoc in the payment system by implementing FRAUD in volume.
6.With the help of OUR greedy bankpeople, start freezing funds, and compile A SIGNIFICANT 8 FIGURE SUM.
7. Initiate an Investigation of "the generous ONE"....and have him removed from post.
8. In the mean time...start a NEW INVESTMENT SCHEME with the "LOYAL GREEDY PEOPLE" of ours with the help of ...A SIGNIFICANT 8 FIGURE SUM..HE HE HE.

THE OUTCOME

WHAT.....THEY DID'nt ARREST HIM?????

WHAT....ARE THE BANK INVESTIGATING US?????

BBUT...BBUT...BUT....

to be continued....

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It's only MY thoughts...

All The Best

Largo

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there was a CONTINUED Story to this that pretty much covers what you have found out now for yourself....

SO...welcome to the Club...

Just MY OWN Thoughts

Largo

I agree, and though I never had anything happen to me, like happend to you, that scenario you spoke about had crossed my mind.Yes it is something that needs to be addressed.

Originally Posted by Thelema

Hello Style,

Hiring there does present problems that challenge a solution but then Bryan had employees such as Tini and Anusha that were simply as good as people come, the best anybody could ask for. It's just that the potential for muslim extremist interest or agenda for the extraordinary profits of Pips/Picpay conceivably does exist; and, as a security issue, I don't see any way around addressing it in some way. With what happened to me three weeks before closing of Pips, I cannot help but see this as an issue that urgently needs to be addressed in a restructured Pips, as well as Picpay's operations. Non-extremist muslims are the norm, and honorable and beautiful people such as Tini and Anusha shine as examples of the best of human kind. It's just the geographical area contains an extremist element, as is especially prevalent among the Indonesian Islands, and we just don't know of how to predict or assess the possible implications of that element with regards to Pips/Picpay operations in Malaysia. I do think Bryan had some bad apples, as it were, among the believing Jinn--again, as it were. I also think Bryan is a man capable of handling these issues and that he will succeed in doing so.

Best regards,

Thelema

Nice post......I agree soaringeagle.


I do feel we are entitled to know what was behind the problem with WD's...even if it is very general just like you said.

Originally Posted by soaringeagle

Pantherjon, I totally agree, which is why I did not say "Bryan" is to blame, perhaps I should have been more clear. But the company was not paying, and thus complaints and an investigation were inevitable. I have always suspected there was an inside job that was going on since at least fall of 2004, and think you outlined this well in your post. My point was that for those who keep blaming BoN, that is not where the blame lies. The situation had reached a point where freezing the funds became necessary for BoN to do what they need to do, but the problems started 8 to 10 months before BoN ever stepped in. I do believe one of Bryan's most serious mistakes was trusting the wrong person or persons, and that perhaps he has been a victim in all of this too.

I doubt we will ever be told what really happened. My guess is that all we will ever hear from BoN is whether or not they determined the company was legitimate or not, but I doubt we will be privy as to what else they found in their investigation. That will most likely have to come from Bryan, and I doubt he will tell us very much, for a variety of reasons. While I think it would be good public relations (for lack of a better way to put it) to give the loaning members some answers regarding what happened and why, I am not sure we are really entitled to anything more than very general answers. I would guess the majority would like to know the truth...I know I would. But, if our PicPay withdrawals are honored and things move forward and we can still earn based to some degree on where our accounts were back in August, then if we don't get to know anything more, I can sure live with that.