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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
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    According to another post he made he also has "connections" that are going to pay a "visit" to Bryan for discrediting their "honor" (or some BS like that)
    Careful how you talk to this "wiseguy" ......if you discredit his honor, he may send someone to pay a "visit" to you as well.........................

    He is quite welcome...I'll may even introduce him to The Inner Circle of a REAL "Brotherhood"...:):):)

    Largo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    He is quite welcome...I'll may even introduce him to The Inner Circle of a REAL "Brotherhood"...:):):)

    Largo

    LOL...........'understood'

    Did you get your PM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    LOL...........'understood'

    Did you get your PM?
    Yes...thanks Style

    Largo

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    Wink Intl Law - Audit Procedure $ out must have 2 check points.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4profit
    Well, althought I agree with most of Jorenie's post, I certainly do not agree with the part about the manual procedures surrounding wire transfers.

    Maybe the archaic check driven banking system in the US works like that, but please check with your previous employer ABN AMRO, which is a dutch bank, how it works in the Netherlands and probably in most of Europe.

    Every transfer is in the form of a wire and, nowadays, it does not matter much whether it is a national or an international transfer.

    In fact the EU has imposed rules on the cost of the transfers and banks are not allowed to bill more for an international transfer in Euros than for a natiuonal transfer.

    I am 99,99999% sure that the banks would not have permitted acception of these rules if there was so much manual labour involved with each and every transaction.

    Checks on the other hand are hardly used over here and cashing in checks is very, very expensive and takes many weeks.

    So grahamB, thanks but no thanks.

    And also, I hope that when the new or reorganised program surfaces, we will find that it does not use the USD as the US seems to be a major part of the payment problems we have experienced and also a major cost factor since the wires had to go through US banks.
    Audit procedure when not adhere to will produce theft. The release of wires, checks or credits to accounts ( checking, saving or debits cards) was/can be performed in a large balanced auto release batches to produce funds release on a very large scale at at the touch of a button.

    The manual process that is ALWAYS perform BEFORE the authorized person releases funds is that another person verifies that the funds are in the account and will not create an overdraft and this pertain to dept other than Retail Bank.

    In Retail Banking when a person write checks and over draw their accounts a fee is access which is technically a loan to the account.

    Now we are talking about Pips' process of releasing funds from PicPay.
    Heres how funds from a country is processed say London.
    Your account in London in order to be received from funds from PicPay:

    1. You create a transaction for $2,000.00 for a PicPay clerk to verifies in the system your request if from you and not a hacker (I don't know the software used). They must balance the overall release on a daily basis. Mistakes can occur to delay the release until a relative balance occur( $1.00 to $100.00 off according to banks' guidelines in a particular dept).

    2.(Here was our problem) Pips sends requests to BN to perform individual wires and checks debited from Pips' account(s) ( I don't know how many account at this bank we had - the more accts the chance of error multiplies. These functions are perform in a clearing dept according to the bank. If this was performed in the USA from this view point would not be a problem going to the clearing process, but we would be left with a tax problem.

    3.All the bank's checks produced must be balanced before printed out for mailing.

    4. Wires must balance as well...consider this - a template is made for a customer in the bank with their wiring banking info. Now unless BN started making a template for each Pips customer each time a new ones comes in -SOMEONE has to verify each transaction out of Pips than create a new template for the receiving customer.

    I pray BN had this highly advanced magical technology and software because if the system debits from one account than the receiving info constantly changes is highly unlikely. This is the real world - someone better type 120 wpm and than someone better check info each time before releasing the wires (as the procedure is) to achieve sending out 100's of individual wires daily.

    5.Funds are released (wires) from BN goes to BN's Bank that holds their USD account (If EURO it will go to their EURO Bank). From BN's USD account than the $ is sent to our USD account.

    Now just think if Pips was investigated on Homeland Security violations each transaction (or as the Audit dictated) is traced and verified at all points looking for money laundering.

    Unless you have the knowledge of Pips setup everyone needs to stop assuming things. One last thing if you would check the proper gov site of Malaysia, Panama for a company existance you might save your self some needless worry.
    Last edited by jorenie; 23-11-2005 at 09:26 PM.

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    Just for your record, im a Paraguayan lawyer, in order to apply as an Argentinan lawyer i need to convalidate 18 materials which I have already passed 5 so far this year, and need one more which i have an exam by February and i will be in 5th year by 2006. Then i will be a full Argentinan and Paraguayan lawyer by 2007

    And the Hedge Fund didnt start yet, cause we are working on the papers, and there is a lot of paperwork, thanks for the interest, but thats all I can tell you about the the HF.

    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    Tarzanico...

    How about your 9 investors in your proposed Investments PGM?

    Did you HIT the BIG ONE with your Hedge Funds?
    ARE they really legal?

    Hope they are as you were a 4 year Lawyer Student the 17:th of August 2005,
    and then (per your own posting) you were a full fledge LAWYER the 11 of november....

    Do you have any OTHER PGM's for us Pipsters... NOW THAT YOU KNOW PIPS will NOT return?

    Just Curious...

    Largo

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    hello and thanks Jorenie

    I want to say that I agree emphatically with you on buying out the
    meddlers that caused so much of this problem for Pips.
    They should definetely not be able to share in the comeback and I fervently
    hope that Bryan has kept a close watch on the ones who are involved.

    1177
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    Thumbs up Hi tarzancio.

    Hi tarzancio.
    if you still intend to go ahead with this, please let me know as i'm very interested.
    thanks.

    "Well, i have finally found how PIPs really make the 2% ROL to paid us before on last year when they worked fine.
    I have found the source, a real true way 100% secure, working with a top 5 class bank to produce more than 2% per day.
    Of course i wont divulgue this, cuase im planning to setup this and offer to a limited amount of investors,
    i will pool the money and join into it, and i will give the investor who will join me on this venture the 60%
    of the ROL, which will be equal or more to 2% per day.
    I want your opinions people, and want to know if you will be willing to invest.
    Im planning to set a min of $100 and only whole US dollar amount to avoid troubles with the decimals.
    So, vote and tell me what you think, if i see we have more than 2000 members willing to invest $100
    (thats $200k which is the min to start this things rolling) i will create and setup a web page with backoffice."

    Quote Originally Posted by tarzancio
    Just for your record, im a Paraguayan lawyer, in order to apply as an Argentinan lawyer i need to convalidate 18 materials which I have already passed 5 so far this year, and need one more which i have an exam by February and i will be in 5th year by 2006. Then i will be a full Argentinan and Paraguayan lawyer by 2007
    And the Hedge Fund didnt start yet, cause we are working on the papers, and there is a lot of paperwork, thanks for the interest, but thats all I can tell you about the the HF.

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    Well at that moment i thought that opp. was a real one, but after I made my own DD on this people I found they were scam, and after calling to Credit Suisse and talked to the manager account of the scammer account, he told me it was a scam because their account was new and the account manager told me to hold any SWIFT. Anyway lot of time have passed and a few more opps. come to me, and finally I found one that have send me a direct letter statement from the Bank stating the trader (the contacted person i have found) was a V.I.P. and that hold a good and long credibilty with them.

    Anyway, I also found that this kind of opps. comes only in $100M level,which obviously I dont have, and neither no one here have too. So pooling for that was totally unlogic.

    So I contacted some persons and friends I have, show them a draft proposition and we are now working with a group (a company). So far so good. I cant say much, the only reason im telling this is because you called this out from my old posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by hassle
    Hi tarzancio.
    if you still intend to go ahead with this, please let me know as i'm very interested.
    thanks.

    "Well, i have finally found how PIPs really make the 2% ROL to paid us before on last year when they worked fine.
    I have found the source, a real true way 100% secure, working with a top 5 class bank to produce more than 2% per day.
    Of course i wont divulgue this, cuase im planning to setup this and offer to a limited amount of investors,
    i will pool the money and join into it, and i will give the investor who will join me on this venture the 60%
    of the ROL, which will be equal or more to 2% per day.
    I want your opinions people, and want to know if you will be willing to invest.
    Im planning to set a min of $100 and only whole US dollar amount to avoid troubles with the decimals.
    So, vote and tell me what you think, if i see we have more than 2000 members willing to invest $100
    (thats $200k which is the min to start this things rolling) i will create and setup a web page with backoffice."

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    Thumbs up Thanks for the reply tarzancio.

    I'm still very interested in your latest venture and if you are in a position to tell me more then please pm me or e-mail me at:
    [email protected]
    thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by tarzancio
    Well at that moment i thought that opp. was a real one, but after I made my own DD on this people I found they were scam, and after calling to Credit Suisse and talked to the manager account of the scammer account, he told me it was a scam because their account was new and the account manager told me to hold any SWIFT. Anyway lot of time have passed and a few more opps. come to me, and finally I found one that have send me a direct letter statement from the Bank stating the trader (the contacted person i have found) was a V.I.P. and that hold a good and long credibilty with them.

    Anyway, I also found that this kind of opps. comes only in $100M level,which obviously I dont have, and neither no one here have too. So pooling for that was totally unlogic.

    So I contacted some persons and friends I have, show them a draft proposition and we are now working with a group (a company). So far so good. I cant say much, the only reason im telling this is because you called this out from my old posts.

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    Open letter to Bryan.

    On this Thanksgiving day, I am very Thankful that you have not given up on us Pipsters.

    I know they don't have Thanksgiving today in Malaysia but have a wonderful day.

    Thank You and God Bless

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