Dome's view as a hypothesis is for most, who have clearly understood the direction the trial is leading towards, very much self evident but there are many more that may not be as sharp or shrewd to analyze this easily....
Of course (and this is for those who DON'T really know nor is capable of seeing the difference), it is evidently clear where this trial is leading to...a matter of justifying just how deep the Marsdens had committed a crime within the Malaysian State's criminal system and whatever is uncovered, again unraveling all links, businesses, finance, fiscal violations & deceit to fraud the State etc... all these will subsequently be flushed out...!
But the case is primarily addressing the charges brought up against the Marsdens for inappropriately acting and perhaps illegally operating without a recognized /registered License issued by the Malaysian Authorities.
From thereon, we shall see what else is further uncovered....no need to speculate at this point, just be patient and we will know sooner or later...
In the meantime, what the Marsdens are facing on trial will be the basis of more to come....bet on that...it's FAR from OVER!!!
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07-09-2007, 01:22 PM #41
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May I take this as a compliment?
I think it's a bit more than just "my view". I have simply rephrased the official charges without distorting them.
I feel Owen's point "The Malaysian government has no interest in Pips or its members." cannot be repeated often enough. This is the starting point of this trial and should be a guideline for everyone's expectation level.
Of course (and this is for those who DON'T really know nor is capable of seeing the difference), it is evidently clear where this trial is leading to...a matter of justifying just how deep the Marsdens had committed a crime within the Malaysian State's criminal system and whatever is uncovered, again unraveling all links, businesses, finance, fiscal violations & deceit to fraud the State etc... all these will subsequently be flushed out...!
But the case is primarily addressing the charges brought up against the Marsdens for inappropriately acting and perhaps illegally operating without a recognized /registered License issued by the Malaysian Authorities.
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This is a thread link you are advised to visit, if you had not already read it earlier>>:
As a result of "other" outside sources that are making claims from borrowed/stolen and hijacked information through our efforts and thereby taking a step further with SPAMMING YOU ALL with a disguise.... Marek & I are taking steps discussing how to curb and prevent this GFF Parasite from accomplishing his claims to provide the latest information from the coming Trial.
Before a final decision is made, an announcement by Marek will be sent out to Members about the decision taken and ALL Donors, and Supporters including those that could not have afforded donating, and including all those thatemailed to:
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Do YOU SUPPORT ROLCLUB or do you support this Spamming GFF jerk harassing your mailboxes with false pretenses, promises and untrue claims.... is he SPAMMING you as you said??!!!
Well, if you do after all support GFF and all along, hypocritically stay and hang about in ROLClub to steal information and occasionally submit postings in RC Forum threads to give an opposite impression,then you will have a BIG problem facing this challenge!!!
For those, who solidly support ROLClub and wants the RC Admins to sternly respond and act decisively against this "GFF Parasite Pariah" from spamming you repeatedly and at your loyal expense with RC, it is needless to imply or suggest that we can rely on your outright support & decision to take a wise and affirmative action....
Yes, what shall it be???... Don't be surprise... just think what is necessary is NECESSARY to preserve our efforts to place that GFF Parasite in a clown's corner....
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Do you really think it's wise to post on here about how much you prefer another forum - one that stole our member DB and is currently spamming them?
I'm not demanding single-minded loyalty here, but it's not necessarily the smartest thing to say, and I don't see why you needed to say it at all. If you prefer GFF, then visit it, but don't come back here just to post about how much better you think it is.http://nejsnatterings.blogspot.com/
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Have a safe trip batty and blessings to your family while you are away.
Look forward to hearing the news you will bring back with you.
I know it's been said by many and I have to add that my family's life would have been much, much nicer with the PIPS dream. Instead the dream turned to a court room drama. And all the hush-hush not to talk about the case has left so many questions dangling without any answers. I do not have an opinion about the Marsdens as was said the charges have to do with moving financials not actually the PIPS program, but do hope that some type of closure comes so answers can be made. Once court is finished Mr. Marsden should be able to openly make discussion. It has been way too long for anyone to wait for court time.
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Hi,
Is it possible to reduce the size of the page. It is a bit of a pain
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Let's recap just what BM and Sharon have been charged with and this trial is about.
You have the majority of the charges (41) each for money laundering.
You have BM and Sharon charged with 7 additional accounts of illegal deposit taking.
Last you have 9 more charges against BM for withdrawals from illegal activities.
None of these have anything to do with the world-wide PIPS being legal, or involving the world-wide deposits from the members outside Malaysia.
This trial is about PIPS being legal in Malaysia, if BM and Sharon are guilty of diverting funds to their personal bank accounts (money laundering) and those funds came from illegal activities which were deposited into their personal bank accounts; and then PIPS not being properly licensed in Malaysia, withdrawals from illegal activities.
This trial has nothing to do with what kind of investments PIPS was using, didn't use or was going to use. This is about Malaysia, and Malaysia only. The Malaysian SEC has already stated and declared that PIPS was a Pyramid/Ponzi Scheme in Malaysia. The SEC of other countries, or their equivalent, have said that PIPS was a Pyramid/Ponzi Scheme in their countries as well. It does not take a court to state this for it to be true, much to the chagrin of those that try to make this claim.
What will be interesting from this trial is to see just what the various banks that were involved with PIPS have to say as to why they shut down PIPS accounts. To me, this will be the most telling of anything else that will happen in this trial. This trial will hinge on what these banks have to say and can prove.
We know that BNM did not confiscate Billions of dollars, as PIPS would have had to have in order to meet the 2% per day guaranteed trading returns. Now if they didn't confiscate them, and they exist, that leads to where are they and why these funds aren't listed in PIPS name? These questions will not be answered in this trial.
Mr. Dome was right when he said what this trial will be about, as well as Owen. If you expect anything more you are setting yourself up for a major disappointment.
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[QUOTE=LynnRE;238384]We know that BNM did not confiscate Billions of dollars, as PIPS would have had to have in order to meet the 2% per day guaranteed trading returns. Now if they didn't confiscate them, and they exist, that leads to where are they and why these funds aren't listed in PIPS name? These questions will not be answered in this trial.
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