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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoSphere View Post
    Hi Bat$ and dreamer, thanks for your efforts anyway, no news is no news, I am neither feeling good nor bad about it, as I still think it will be a long wait or like Dreamer say, there will be a plea bargain for BM to take the easy way out.

    as hopelessly as it looks, I still wish everyone somehow get their initial investment back or find ways to overcome problems caused by this scam.

    Bat$, take good care of your health
    Thanks Geosphere.It could just be a postponement due to shortage of staff,nobody seems to know at the moment.As Owen said,whatever happened may not be newsworthy,ie; another mention date.

    The usual waiting

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    Good job on getting the thread back under control, batty. I'd thank you but the buttons seem to have gone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Thanks Geosphere.It could just be a postponement due to shortage of staff,nobody seems to know at the moment.As Owen said,whatever happened may not be newsworthy,ie; another mention date.

    The usual waiting
    Hi Dreamer
    All is not lost yet I'll try that ace up my sleave ,so I will keep you posted
    Cheers Gray

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    Quote Originally Posted by gray View Post
    Hi Dreamer
    All is not lost yet I'll try that ace up my sleave ,so I will keep you posted
    Cheers Gray
    Thanks Gray.Seems the wait will continue for a while yet

    Thanks Batty for excellent moderating

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    hi theBat

    if you would look at the post Lee did not start the argument.
    she only posted something that seemed remotely positive and was attacked for it then she attacked back.
    it seems to be a growing trend here...to post only negativity and if any light of positivity comes in....people respond by saying things like "wake up..its over..its over...its gone..doom...glooom...glooomm...dooom...dooooooom"

    the way it seems here is all the negativity has done its job...those whos belief was shaky has been swayed or gotten stronger, those who were on one side or the other have stuck to thier guns. There is no more need for trying to keep things negative, I mean honestly if you get the whole world to believe pips is a scam or what ever...what will that accomplish? It will accomplish nothing more than what is already accomplished now.

    Also consider this...IF...and i mean IF pips does come back and everyone gets paid / bought out / or what ever....then all the months and months of ****ing out negativity will be erased in a matter of days.

    when this is over two things will happen
    either the pro pips will be able to say : You anti pips people had done your best to try to bring down pips but failed...better luck next time..lol

    or...

    either the anti=pips will be able to say: see! we told you so..a word to the wise..NEVER invest in any hyip stick with more traditional ways of making money, "IE stocks, FOREX, realestate, start a business, a job etc.."

    that is all that is left to say ..so just wait for the end....and see what side will be able to say what

    it is all fine and dandy to discuss info about the trail but to attack anyone who says something positive is uncalled for. You anit pips CANT make everyone think the same as you ..so calling them practicaly fools for believing different from you is not only a waste of time at this point but very rude.
    Lets just stick to gathering info on the trail please, positive or negative. No rehashing old arguments and being rude to people who believe differently than you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapcus View Post
    hi theBat

    she only posted something that seemed remotely positive and was attacked for it then she attacked back.
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    Well, that is because these, "positive" types kept this Ponzi going long after it was dead and are in fact as guilty as Bryan in promoting this illegal enterprise which caused many to lose everything, including their dreams.
    These " positive" types are simply not facing up to the truth and these falsehoods they STILL PROMOTE are simply rubbing salt into the wounds of the disenchanted, those that have robbed by PiPs and Bryan.
    What really is unfortunate is that these, "positive" types who have done as much damage as Bryan, if not more, will never be charged with a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapcus View Post
    hi theBat

    if you would look at the post Lee did not start the argument.
    she only posted something that seemed remotely positive and was attacked for it then she attacked back.
    it seems to be a growing trend here...to post only negativity and if any light of positivity comes in....people respond by saying things like "wake up..its over..its over...its gone..doom...glooom...glooomm...dooom...dooooooom"

    the way it seems here is all the negativity has done its job...those whos belief was shaky has been swayed or gotten stronger, those who were on one side or the other have stuck to thier guns. There is no more need for trying to keep things negative, I mean honestly if you get the whole world to believe pips is a scam or what ever...what will that accomplish? It will accomplish nothing more than what is already accomplished now.

    Also consider this...IF...and i mean IF pips does come back and everyone gets paid / bought out / or what ever....then all the months and months of ****ing out negativity will be erased in a matter of days.

    when this is over two things will happen
    either the pro pips will be able to say : You anti pips people had done your best to try to bring down pips but failed...better luck next time..lol

    or...

    either the anti=pips will be able to say: see! we told you so..a word to the wise..NEVER invest in any hyip stick with more traditional ways of making money, "IE stocks, FOREX, realestate, start a business, a job etc.."

    that is all that is left to say ..so just wait for the end....and see what side will be able to say what

    it is all fine and dandy to discuss info about the trail but to attack anyone who says something positive is uncalled for. You anit pips CANT make everyone think the same as you ..so calling them practicaly fools for believing different from you is not only a waste of time at this point but very rude.
    Lets just stick to gathering info on the trail please, positive or negative. No rehashing old arguments and being rude to people who believe differently than you do.
    That was excellent post Lapcus

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    The reason that negativity drowns out positivity, is because there are only a handful of vocal positive people on here.

    The rest of us have accepted that we will not see our money, and are now interested in the outcome of the trial.

    I've said before and I'll say it again. I'd love nothing better than for PIPS to come back. If everything BM said was true then he owes me over $45,000 in unpaid withdrawals that I was waiting for. If the money is there and I get it then I'd be the happiest person in the world.

    But now, free of propaganda and in the cold light of some sobering facts, it looks like that fantastic dream will, sadly, remain just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapcus View Post
    hi theBat

    if you would look at the post Lee did not start the argument.
    she only posted something that seemed remotely positive and was attacked for it then she attacked back.
    it seems to be a growing trend here...to post only negativity and if any light of positivity comes in....people respond by saying things like "wake up..its over..its over...its gone..doom...glooom...glooomm...dooom...dooooooom"

    the way it seems here is all the negativity has done its job...those whos belief was shaky has been swayed or gotten stronger, those who were on one side or the other have stuck to thier guns. There is no more need for trying to keep things negative, I mean honestly if you get the whole world to believe pips is a scam or what ever...what will that accomplish? It will accomplish nothing more than what is already accomplished now.

    Also consider this...IF...and i mean IF pips does come back and everyone gets paid / bought out / or what ever....then all the months and months of ****ing out negativity will be erased in a matter of days.

    when this is over two things will happen
    either the pro pips will be able to say : You anti pips people had done your best to try to bring down pips but failed...better luck next time..lol

    or...

    either the anti=pips will be able to say: see! we told you so..a word to the wise..NEVER invest in any hyip stick with more traditional ways of making money, "IE stocks, FOREX, realestate, start a business, a job etc.."

    that is all that is left to say ..so just wait for the end....and see what side will be able to say what

    it is all fine and dandy to discuss info about the trail but to attack anyone who says something positive is uncalled for. You anit pips CANT make everyone think the same as you ..so calling them practicaly fools for believing different from you is not only a waste of time at this point but very rude.
    Lets just stick to gathering info on the trail please, positive or negative. No rehashing old arguments and being rude to people who believe differently than you do.
    Many of the investments you quoted as the traditional ways of investing were the same things BM said PIPS was investing in from the beginning. Second, if PIPS were to come back today, and start paying BM would be making payments of $14+ Billion per day, and by month 3 he would be paying out over $72 Billion per day due to the compouding interest factor. Each month thereafter he would have an increasing amount to pay out daily. In short, he has to have over $2 Trillion dollars just to meet the $14+ Billion per day for a whole year, and that's without any compounding at all. The entire PIPS membership individually would be worth more than the 29 top billionaires combined today. By the way, these are BM's figures not mine based on his statements and guarantee of 2% per day compounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nej View Post
    The reason that negativity drowns out positivity, is because there are only a handful of vocal positive people on here.

    The rest of us have accepted that we will not see our money, and are now interested in the outcome of the trial.

    I've said before and I'll say it again. I'd love nothing better than for PIPS to come back. If everything BM said was true then he owes me over $45,000 in unpaid withdrawals that I was waiting for. If the money is there and I get it then I'd be the happiest person in the world.

    But now, free of propaganda and in the cold light of some sobering facts, it looks like that fantastic dream will, sadly, remain just that.
    Absolutely Nej.

    The cheerleaders constantly bash anyone who has the slightest doubt about pips.Why?

    The whole operation is shut and the owners are in prison awaiting trial.No wonder people have doubts.

    It is nobody's interest to want pips to shut down forever.There is just to much water under the bridge to be confident of a comeback.

    The outcome of Pips rest entirely on the trial.

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