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    Any and all assets,funds and properties,weather real personal or mixed,tangable,wether located or not recorded or reflected or required to be recorded on the books or finanical statements of the corperation...will the bna go after bryans personal assets, and company assets in panama.if the bna find out that bryan was running a ponzi scam,would vipinv lawsuit help us recover some of our money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody6000 View Post
    Any and all assets,funds and properties,weather real personal or mixed,tangable,wether located or not recorded or reflected or required to be recorded on the books or finanical statements of the corperation...will the bna go after bryans personal assets, and company assets in panama.if the bna find out that bryan was running a ponzi scam,would vipinv lawsuit help us recover some of our money back.
    Woody,

    We cannot know everything you are asking at this point, assuming there are any meaningful assets at all, any books kept, etc etc. Money laundering is very serious, and it has been intimated from Mike (OSW) that there are more charges pending. Also, there would be other "creditors" waiting in line to be paid as well. Best thing to do is wait until the truth comes our in the court proceedings, but this will not be resolved most likeley until next year. Contrary to what has been said in some arenas, Sept 13th is not a trial date.

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    Correct. Sept. 13th. is a hearing to appoint a court lawyer if they have been unable to provide one of their own and also to review the conditions of bail. I doubt whether there will be any other news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Platt View Post
    Correct. Sept. 13th. is a hearing to appoint a court lawyer if they have been unable to provide one of their own and also to review the conditions of bail. I doubt whether there will be any other news.
    owen,(a) do you think that bryan will be able to post bail.(b)what other charges, will we see.(c) will it be a quick trial.

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    Woody,

    Owen can't look into a crystal ball and forsee anything..He is just a journalist, and he will tell you so himself... So, your questions about bail and anything else can and will only be answered by the court, which holds jurisdiction over all of these issues. Even Owen will tell you that it is pointless speculation to ask for details until they become reality, Right Owen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanEagle1 View Post
    Roy Lamb Here...

    goankar, That is a very good point - do you, or would any one in this forum have the original PIPsINC sign up agreement - and post it in this forum - I think I have a copy somewhere...
    Does this help?

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    It was posted on the Auspips site, where there is a little more going on than constant Bryan bashing.

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    Whatever - yes, you're right (I'm not a journalist, by the way!) Second guessing the actions of Bank Negara is a bit of a waste of time and anything I said would be pure speculation.
    On the showing so far it would be fair to say that, by their own admission, Mardens cannot make bail on their own (i.e. they would need someone to put the money up for them), that there will almost certainly be further charges to be brought and finally, in a case like this, it's highly unlikely that the trial or trials will be quick. Bank Negara are in no hurry - why should they be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underroo View Post
    Well, hindsight is 20/20..This is my first posting on this subject..Shoulda's and coulda's are great to mull over if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't change anything(unless you happen to miraculously have a time machine and can go back in time..lol)..My shoulda was when we (mt roommate and I) first got into PIPS, we sent a cashiers check to Pure Investments, it came back like 4 months later that said it should go to Picpay,(or something along those lines)..My shoulda is: Shoulda cashed the check, left it here and not sent it back to them..But no, we cashed it, drew out another check to go to where they told us and sent it back to them..sigh..ok, I feel better :)

    Time to move on

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    Hey there... Well shoulda coulda and woulda would say it's good to look at one's contribution in this mess. I think we get tested as to how to make wise decisions and don't listen to our good sense. But anyhow, underoo, glad I am in good company! It's kinda interesting to look back in retrospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Platt View Post
    Whatever - yes, you're right (I'm not a journalist, by the way!) Second guessing the actions of Bank Negara is a bit of a waste of time and anything I said would be pure speculation.
    On the showing so far it would be fair to say that, by their own admission, Mardens cannot make bail on their own (i.e. they would need someone to put the money up for them), that there will almost certainly be further charges to be brought and finally, in a case like this, it's highly unlikely that the trial or trials will be quick. Bank Negara are in no hurry - why should they be?
    Sorry, I meant author...

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    It's a fine line! But I never did work at a newspaper - or maybe they wouldn't have me.

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