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    I try to find this full article if someone can find it please post it thank you!!!


    Iraq PM says oil law ready to go to parliament
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    http://www.noozz.com/Iraq/Index.aspx?Id=0&SectionId=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfwizard View Post
    The CBI PDF and XLS files don't show everything, there is no way you can make an asumption that all the dinar from the Aucions has been pulled from Circulation.

    The CBI and XLS files dont show everything??? And how do you know this? And where is your evidence or proof to back up your claims? The last time you came in here posting ASSumptions you provided no evidence and yet again you did the same thing. Post some RECENT articles that verifies your claims and then maybe some people here would be willing to listen. But at this point your claims have NO FOUNDATION.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippyman View Post
    The CBI and XLS files dont show everything??? And how do you know this? And where is your evidence or proof to back up your claims? The last time you came in here posting ASSumptions you provided no evidence and yet again you did the same thing. Post some RECENT articles that verifies your claims and then maybe some people here would be willing to listen. But at this point your claims have NO FOUNDATIONS.
    WE know the MOF uses oil dollars to buy Dinars to pay for Government operations. If you think no dinar is going back out, add up all the auctions in the last 3 years and see how much dinar is still in circulation, then get back to me. You will see the CBI does not show everything. AGAIN I am not saying this isnt a good Investment, IT IS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfwizard View Post
    First of all I don't have a bleak outlook, I believe this will happen eventually. I have come to realize that this venture will make me a decent amount of money, maybe 10k to 40k dollars on my fairly large stash. The one thing I don't understand is how people can say something is fact with no Proof. This will be a slow rise, to a respectable rate. Some people seem to think there is NO DINAR leaving the CBI this is a bunch of bull. The CBI PDF and XLS files don't show everything, there is no way you can make an asumption that all the dinar from the Aucions has been pulled from Circulation. GO ahead and think it will All of a sudden RV at a $1, I don't care. Seems its ok to say I dont have a Grasp on things, which means your stupid you don't understand, But when I say Fantasy land IM the bad guy. Some of you need to come back down to earth. IT will happen but its not going to make MIllionaires overnight. HOwever I do hope it makes me a Big chunk of money I can reinvest.

    The dangdest thing about this is that you just don't know, none of us do. You don't think it will all of a sudden RV at 1-1, others do. We all have opinions and some are going to be right some day. We are seeing very positive signs that favor the value of this investment. I don't have a problem with you having an opinion. More power to you. Is it what I want to believe?? No, but that's ok too. God Bless and best of luck to us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfwizard View Post
    WE know the MOF uses oil dollars to buy Dinars to pay for Government operations. If you think no dinar is going back out, add up all the auctions in the last 3 years and see how much dinar is still in circulation, then get back to me. You will see the CBI does not show everything. AGAIN I am not saying this isnt a good Investment, IT IS!

    Again Elfwizard I am saying prove your statements. You cant. So therefore your theories have NO FOUNDATION. So dont come here acting like you know exactly what they are doing with the dinars they are buying back because it is obvious you dont. So therefore we could be right and you could be wrong. Get it????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeway View Post
    The dangdest thing about this is that you just don't know, none of us do. You don't think it will all of a sudden RV at 1-1, others do. We all have opinions and some are going to be right some day. We are seeing very positive signs that favor the value of this investment. I don't have a problem with you having an opinion. More power to you. Is it what I want to believe?? No, but that's ok too. God Bless and best of luck to us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippyman View Post
    Again Elfwizard I am saying prove your statements. You cant. So therefore your theories have NO FOUNDATION. So dont come here acting like you know exactly what they are doing with the dinars they are buying back because it is obvious you dont. So therefore we could be right and you could be wrong. Get it????
    Or the other way around right?
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    Got pm'd this from a friend of Susie's, this is good folks.


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    كلمة دولة السيد رئيس الوزراء في المؤتمر الصحفيAddress by His Excellency Mr. Prime Minister, in the press conference

    5 كانون الاول 2006December 5, 2006



    من اجل تعزيز دور العراق الإقليمي وتوثيق علاقاته مع محيطه العربي والإسلامي وفي إطار مبادرة دبلوماسية سترسل حكومة الوحدة الوطنية مبعوثين لزيارة دول الجوار الإقليمي لتبادل وجهات النظر بشأن القضايا ذات الإهتمام المشترك وحث حكومات هذه الدول للمساهمة في تعزيز الأمن والإستقرار في العراق ودعم جهود الحكومة العراقية في مواجهة الارهاب والمجموعات الخارجة على القانون.In order to enhance the role of regional and Iraq closer relations with the surrounding Arab and Muslim diplomatic initiative under the government of national unity will be sent envoys to visit neighboring countries, regional to exchange views on issues of common concern and urged the governments of these countries to contribute to the strengthening of security and stability in Iraq and to support the efforts of the Iraqi government in the face of terrorism and groups outside the law. وبعد تهيئة الاجواء السياسية المناسبة سندعو الى عقد مؤتمر تشترك فيه هذة الدول التي يهمها أمن وإستقرار العراق وتلتزم بمساعدة الشعب العراقي في بناء نظامه السياسي الديمقراطي ودولته الموحدة المستقلة.After creating the appropriate political climate to let the convening of a conference involving the States interested in the security and stability of Iraq is committed to assisting the Iraqi people in building a democratic political system and an independent standard.

    وتعزيزاً لمبادرة المصالحة الوطنية التي اعلناها فان مؤتمر القوى السياسية سيعقد منتصف الشهر الحالي حيث ستشارك فيه مختلف الشخصيات والاحزاب والمنظمات السياسية العراقية المشاركة في العملية السياسية وغيرها من اجل تعزيز الوحدة الوطنية العراقية والاتفاق على ميثاق وطني يحرم الاقتتال الطائ في ويفتح افاق التعاون بين مختلف مكونات الشعب العراقي والاسهام في اخراج الوطن من المرحلة الصعبة التي يجتازها حيث تتكالب عليه قوى الارهاب والمجموعات المسلحة الخارجة على القانون والتي تعمل على اشاعة الفوضى في البلاد وتسعى لتخريب العملية السياسية وايقاف عملية البناء والاعمار في عراقنا الحبيب.In furtherance of the national reconciliation conference, which views the political forces will be held in the middle of this month will be various personalities and political parties and organizations to participate in the Iraqi political process and others to strengthen the Iraqi national unity and to agree on a national charter prohibits fighting Alta in the open horizons of cooperation between the various components of the Iraqi people and contribute in saving the nation from going through the difficult phase where it combine the forces of terrorism The armed groups outside the law, which is working to spread chaos in the country and seeking to sabotage the political process and to stop the process of the reconstruction of Iraqna beloved.

    كما شرعنا في فتح حوارات تهدف الى توسيع القاعدة السياسية التي يرتكز عليها بناء الدولة العراقية ومؤسساتها المختلفة ؛ فالعراق للعراقيين والجميع شركاء في هذا البلد وخيراته ولهم كامل الحق في المساهمة الايجابية من اجل بنائه وادارته ضمن اطار الدستور الذي يشكل القاسم المشترك الذي يجمع كل المواطنين على قاعدة المواطنة بغض النظر عن الانتماء القومي والمذهبي والديني والسياسي.We have also embarked on the opening of dialogues aimed at expanding the political base underlying the rebuilding of the Iraqi state and its various institutions; Iraq to the Iraqis and all partners in this country and its wealth and they have the full right to the positive contribution to a constructive and management within the framework of the Constitution, which is a common denominator of all citizens on the basis of citizenship, regardless of national affiliation, sectarian and religious and political.

    بعد ان جرى الاتفاق مع قيادات الكتل البرلمانية المشتركة في الحكومة سنعمل على تعزيز قوة حكومة الوحدة الوطنية وفاعليتها من خلال اجراء تعديل وزاري يشمل عددا من الوزارات سنعلن عنه خلال فترة وجيزة.After that was agreed with the leaders of parliamentary blocs participating in the government will work to strengthen the government of national unity and effectiveness through cabinet reshuffle, which includes a number of ministries we will announce it in a short period of time.

    ومن اجل حماية المواطنين وتثبيت الامن والاستقرارفي عموم البلاد؛ ستواصل حكومة الوحدة الوطنية جهودها لتاهيل وبناء القوات المسلحة لتتمكن من تسلم المهام الامنية في جميع المحافظات.In order to protect citizens and establish security throughout the country and Alastekararve; the government of national unity would continue its efforts for rehabilitation and rebuilding of the armed forces to be able to take over the security functions in all governorates.

    وفي اطار البدء في مشاريع الاعمار فقد انجزنا قانون الاستثمارحيث تمت المصادقة عليه في مجلس النواب والذي سيساهم في جذب رؤوس الاموال الوطنية والاجنبية الضرورية لتمويل المشاريع الكبرى في البلاد , كما يوفر هذا القانون فرصا كبيرة امام المستثمرين وحماية قانونية تساهم في تشجيعهم للاستثمار داخل العراق.In a bid to reconstruction projects have finished law Alastthmarhith approved in the House of Representatives, which would attract capital, national and foreign necessary to finance major projects in the country. this law also provides great opportunities for investors and contribute to the legal protection to encourage them to invest in Iraq.

    وفي نفس الاتجاه فان الحكومة قد انجزت صياغة مشروع قانون النفط والغاز الذي سيعرض على مجلس النواب للمصادقة عليه .In the same vein, the government has completed the drafting of the oil and gas, which will be presented to the House of Representatives for approval. ان هذا القانون يشكل عاملا ايجابيا مهما في تعزيز وحدة البلاد وضمانة لتوزيع عادل للموارد الوطنية على مختلف مناطق العراق ؛ فالموارد الطبيعية وفي مقدمتها النفط والغاز هي ملك لكل العراقيين .This law constitutes an important positive factor to enhance the unity of the country and to guarantee fair distribution of national resources to various areas in Iraq; Natural resources, particularly oil and gas are the property of all Iraqis.

    ومن اجل حل مشكلة السكن في العراق تقرراطلاق مشروع الاسكان الوطني الذي يهدف الى بناء عشرات الالاف من الوحدات السكنية في مختلف المحافظات مدعوما بمنح وقروض عقارية .In order to resolve the housing problem in Iraq Tekarratellak the national housing project, which aims to build tens of thousands of housing units in the various provinces supported the granting of loans and mortgages. ولتحقيق هذا الهدف فقد تم تخصيص اموال كافية ضمن الميزانية العامة لعام 2007 وهي ميزانية انفجارية ؛ كما ان قانون الاستثمار سيسهم بدور كبير ف ي تحقيق هذا المشروع الطموح.To achieve this goal has been to allocate sufficient funds within the overall budget for the 2007 budget is explosive, and that the investment would contribute a significant role P j achieving this ambitious project.

    ستعمل حكومة الوحدة الوطنية على تحسين الاوضاع المعيشية لعموم المواطنين وتطوير قطاعات الخدمات كافة ودعم مؤسسات التربية والتعليم والنهوض بالنشاط الصناعي والزراعي ودعم الحركة الثقافية والرياضية .Will the government of National Unity to improve the living conditions of all citizens and development of services sectors and to support all institutions of education and the promotion of industrial and agricultural activity and support sports and cultural movement.

    ندعو جميع ابناء الشعب العراقي الكريم للحفاظ على وحدته الوطنية ونسيجه الاجتماعي وتفويت الفرصة على كل من يحاول ايقاف عجلة البناء والتطور، والتعاون مع اجهزة الدولة لتنفيذ مشاريعها خدمة للوطن والمواطنين .We call upon all the Iraqi people to preserve the Quran and its national unity and the social fabric and deny anyone who tries to stop the wheel of development and construction, and cooperation with the state bodies for the implementation of projects for the service of the nation and citizens.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfwizard View Post
    Or the other way around right?
    Not to attack you guys but grow up. Theres no problem with having diffrent opinions but dont sit here fighting about whos right like a little kid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfwizard View Post
    Or the other way around right?
    Possibly but we do know that they HAVE BOUGHT LARGE QUANTITIES OF DINARS BACK.... which is not normal for their auctions in the last 2-3 years right? So which theory would this favor more? Your side or the common theory running here? I think we know the answer.......

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