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    Blast from the past....... anyone....


    Iraq 'not healthy enough' for GCC

    Thursday 15 July 2004



    Aljazeera.Net - Iraq 'not healthy enough' for GCC



    "Don't expect Iraq to join the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), says Iraq's president. At least not yet.



    It is unrealistic for Iraq to ask to join the six-member council due to the current political situation said Iraqi President Shaikh Ghazi al-Yawar on Wednesday.

    "I believe this request is unrealistic," Yawar told reporters in Baghdad after meeting with members of the country's new appeals court.

    "We in Iraq are not in a position that would allow us to impose upon our brothers (such a request)."

    He said Iraq faces a lot of problems and is in no position to join "a very organised and healthy body," like the GCC, which groups Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

    Economic quarantine

    Yawar likened a request by Iraq to join the GCC to someone with a severe cold asking to come into your home.

    "Maybe, in the future, when Iraq recovers, by then, these countries will be ready to accept the democratic Iraq. We will play an important role," he said.

    The GCC and its member countries have welcomed the interim government installed by US-led occupying forces.

    Before Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in 1991 and the end of diplomatic ties between Iraq and the GCC states, Baghdad was granted the status of observer during some of the council's summits and meetings."






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    I know this is an old article but it does pertain to what being said.


    11/03/2006 12:00 AM (UAE)
    Beijing and Tokyo keen to develop oilfields

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    Baghdad: China and Japan have staked their claim to develop Iraq's vast oil reserves with Tokyo offering billions of dollars in loans and Beijing agreeing to renegotiate a deal signed with Saddam, Iraq's oil minister said on Wednesday.

    Hussain Al Shahristani was briefing reporters after a tour of Asia that took in the world's second biggest oil consumer China and its third biggest Japan both heavily dependent on imports and keen to secure future energy supplies.

    Iraq, which has the world's third largest oil reserves, is in urgent need of billions of dollars in foreign investment after years of sanctions and war crushed the industry.

    The Baghdad government is working towards its first foreign oilfield development contract and is readying a legal framework.

    All the big oil companies are eyeing deals.

    "The Japanese said they were willing to provide soft loans with maturity of up to 40 years for any amount of money we need to develop the oil industry to develop the refineries, exports and production," Shahristani said.

    "Right now there is a Japanese loan of $3.5 billion. More than one billion will be spent to develop the Basra refinery. Also on building a floating port and an export pipeline."

    Shahristani said Japanese firms were interested in oilfields in southern Nassiriya.

    The minister described talks with Chinese officials as successful.

    He said Iraq and China had formed a committee to look again at China's contract, signed with Saddam Hussain, to develop the 90,000 barrel per day Ahdab oilfield in south central Iraq.

    The committee, made up of three or four people from each side, will review the articles of the contract to "serve Iraq's interests", Shahristani said. It will meet in November.

    "We have agreed to form a joint committee to review the contract. We will begin discussions."

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    Blast from the past....... anyone....


    Iraq 'not healthy enough' for GCC

    Thursday 15 July 2004



    Aljazeera.Net - Iraq 'not healthy enough' for GCC



    "Don't expect Iraq to join the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), says Iraq's president. At least not yet.



    It is unrealistic for Iraq to ask to join the six-member council due to the current political situation said Iraqi President Shaikh Ghazi al-Yawar on Wednesday.

    "I believe this request is unrealistic," Yawar told reporters in Baghdad after meeting with members of the country's new appeals court.

    "We in Iraq are not in a position that would allow us to impose upon our brothers (such a request)."

    He said Iraq faces a lot of problems and is in no position to join "a very organised and healthy body," like the GCC, which groups Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

    Economic quarantine

    Yawar likened a request by Iraq to join the GCC to someone with a severe cold asking to come into your home.

    "Maybe, in the future, when Iraq recovers, by then, these countries will be ready to accept the democratic Iraq. We will play an important role," he said.

    The GCC and its member countries have welcomed the interim government installed by US-led occupying forces.

    Before Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in 1991 and the end of diplomatic ties between Iraq and the GCC states, Baghdad was granted the status of observer during some of the council's summits and meetings."

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    Blast from the past is right. July 2004! What is the point? The GCC thing is not going to happen until 2010 anyway. By then, Iraq is going to be in a much better position. I think we should stick to the dinar r/v!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webster View Post
    Blast from the past is right. July 2004! What is the point? The GCC thing is not going to happen until 2010 anyway. By then, Iraq is going to be in a much better position. I think we should stick to the dinar r/v!


    The point is that Iraq will probably more than likely be a part of the GCC by implementation of the 2010 plan. So Iraq's currency will definately have to be on par with the other nations currencies that are in the GCC way before that. And that is only 3 years away. Although I would love to see an RV today or tomorrow at least we know that this RV is definately going to happen in the next year or so.

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    (Voice of Iraq) - 06-11-2006
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    حظر التجول ساهم في تقليل الحوادث الأمنية ...Curfew has contributed to reducing security incidents ... اLimited clashes in Baghdad and artillery bombardment of the two
    Baghdad life-06 / 11 / 06 / /

    Clashes broke out for a short period in Baghdad between gunmen and American and Iraqi forces in the neighborhood and hung Haifa Street, two of the Sunni areas, after the issuance of the death sentence for former President Saddam Hussein.Police said there were no injuries. But a woman was killed and ten injured during celebrations Governing hours during which shots in the air.

    According to the police, on the other hand, Morter shells that fell on Sunni neighborhood hung in the capital, what resulted in the death of three people and injuring 11 others. It added that Morter shells also fell on Abu Dashir neighborhood, which is populated by the Shiite majority, killing two and wounding four.

    It contributed to curfews imposed by the Iraqi authorities in Baghdad and three provinces in low security incidents throughout the country yesterday. The American army said that one American soldier on patrol was shot dead in west Baghdad on Saturday, while the American armed forces killed in a raid near Yusufiyah, which lies 15 kilometers south of Baghdad. It also found a large cache of weapons and explosives in another raid near Baiji detained during 15 of the suspects. He also pointed out that soldiers from the Marines died for reasons other than combat in Anbar province Saturday.

    He said the joint coordination center between the American and Iraqi forces in Tikrit that American helicopters bombed his country, killing two people and injuring five, including two policemen.

    In Kirkuk, a bomb exploded on the sidewalk near the truck, which led to the death of the driver and injuring two.
    In Huwayjah, 70 km south-west of Kirkuk. a bomb exploded on the sidewalk near a police patrol, which resulted in the injury of five people, including two policemen.

    Translated version of http://www.sotaliraq.com/iraqi-elections/

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    Hi guys...I know some may be disappointed with noR/V yet.....but wait....have they not stated that a significant raise in value towards the american dollar? Then don't you think it might be reflected tomorrow AM when NY stock exchange opens?....they still are missing Aug and Oct auctions a CBI site...things can still happen...

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    Colo. firm vies for Iraq refinery job
    A $750 MILLION DEAL

    By Christine Tatum
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    Article Last Updated:11/05/2006 01:52:55 PM MST

    A small Wheat Ridge engineering firm is waiting to hear whether it will win a $750 million contract from the Iraq Oil Ministry to design and construct one of the first new refineries in that country in more than 30 years.

    If Colorado Industrial Construction Services Co. is successful, it would create 250 new engineering jobs in Colorado and hire 1,500 construction workers in Iraq, president and chief executive James Prall said Wednesday.

    CICSCO is competing for the job against two companies based outside the United States. Prall said he expects the Iraq Oil Ministry to make a decision soon.

    Iraq has struggled to capitalize on its sizable oil reserves. The oil ministry has shed hundreds of employees suspected of selling fuel on the black market and has fought continuous attacks on fuel tankers and pipelines.

    The Colorado firm, which employs 70 people, got this far through relationships in Iraq forged by a U.S. Army commander and a former U.S. ambassador to Bahrain.

    The project, known as the Koya Refinery, would be built in Kuysanjaq, Iraq, roughly 60 miles northeast of Kirkuk, the center of oil fields in the country's northern Kurdistan region. The refinery would be scheduled for completion in mid-2009.

    Iraq needs the new refinery to reduce the $200 million it spends each month to import refined oil products to meet its own domestic and industrial needs, Prall said. The country operates at only half of its refining capacity of 700,000 barrels per day. The new refinery would handle 70,000 barrels daily, boosting Iraq's refining by about 20 percent.

    The bidding process for the three-year contract started 15 months ago and initially involved 17 companies. Three firms remain, including CICSCO. The other two finalists are OGI Group in Calgary, Canada, and DPS Bristol Ltd. in Bristol, England.

    All three companies are working on other projects in Iraq and have partnered with Iraqi firms to complete construction.

    "We're not trying to take money and run away," said Neil Young, managing director of DPS Bristol. "We form partnerships with local companies to create jobs in Iraq. When you do that well, you will have a very long-term relationship."

    "We are proud to be a part of the reconstruction of Iraq and are dedicated to the transfer of North American technology and innovation to the region's gas sector," OGI Group said in a statement. "Our group is bidding for major projects ... including the Koya Refinery, as part of a consortium of both major international companies and local Iraqi businesses."

    Prall declined to name the Iraqi firm with which CICSCO has partnered but said it is headed by a man who earned a master's degree in electrical engineering from North Carolina State University.

    "Many of the Iraqis leading projects this big were educated in the United States and respect what we know how to do here," Prall said.

    Prall, 59, co-founded the privately held CICSCO in 1993 after helping to lead the engineering and construction division of Coors.

    CICSCO, which counts Belgium Brewery and Gatorade among its customers, has handled projects for the biotechnology, food and beverage, petroleum and pharmaceutical industries. CICSCO developed business connections in Iraq thanks in large part to its vice president of marketing, Eryth Zecher, a U.S. Army commander who has served in Iraq on and off since the United States' invasion in 2003. Zecher was unavailable for comment.

    "She made a lot of friends over there, learned the culture and the business issues," said Prall, who met Zecher while he served in the U.S. Army Reserves. He retired as a command sergeant major in 2000 after 34 years of service.

    Republican Sam Zakhem, a former Colorado state senator who later was U.S. ambassador to Bahrain, was of significant help, Prall said.

    "By awarding contracts like this, Iraq gets the best of both worlds," Zakhem said in a statement. "American advanced technology, guidance and management designed to be built with local resources ..."

    Why would Iraq officials want to entrust such an important project to a relatively small and unknown firm such as CICSCO?

    "The reason initially given to us when we started looking at this is that they didn't want to put themselves in the position of doing business with companies that were bigger than the government and would tell the government how to do business," Prall said. "They were looking for smaller, more flexible and more agile companies. That's us."

    The Iraq refinery is relatively small in size and price, and scheduled for completion on a speedy timeline compared with refinery construction in North America, said Steve Douglas, spokesman for Suncor, which recently spent $400 million to upgrade its 90,000-barrel-per-day refinery in Commerce City.

    If a refinery the size of the proposed Koya facility were built in North America, Douglas said it likely would cost more than $1 billion and take almost a decade to complete, in large part because of government regulations and permitting.

    "We are held to certain standards in North America that might not prevail in other parts of the world," Douglas said.

    Staff writer Christine Tatum can be reached at 303-954-1503 or [email protected]

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    Baath negotiate with the American occupiers on the basis of the constants

    (Voice of Iraq) - 06-11-2006
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    After returning to the Iraqi arena and Astjmah his ... »« Baath negotiate with the occupier «» «American on the basis of national constants»
    Baghdad - Rabi Al-Hayat-06 / 11 / 06 / /
    Ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein
    The declaration of the Baath Party «» in Iraq itself Finally, «political movement and a national resistance movement through putting» «» political program, according to some observers, an indication to two things :

    The first is that the party has reorganized its ranks, political and began to work on the Iraqi arena a clandestine party. The second is that the formation of the government »« Baath resistance to the occupation - which is not new - and the leadership of this movement «», which includes part to the strong nationalism and patriotism again agreed on the national principles and clear, a true force on the Iraqi arena. This comes at a time when some evidence points to more than the fact belong Iraqi reality, or stems from the current circumstances, most notably, the American presence «», which indicates clearly the failure of the United States and its project in Iraq. The other fact is the escalation »« acts of resistance and the American forces targeted specifically, and the increasing losses in the ranks of recent, individuals and military equipment, reveals the nature of organizational resistance, American Power paid to show a desire to reopen negotiations «» with the resistance - which some observers saw American desire to solve the problem of Iraq «».

    All of this is another reality faced in the Iraqi reality today is the failure of the government of Nuri al-Maliki until now to make radical changes in this reality. , As well as the failure of his security plan «», which went three months without the application of yield any kind, or the level of security and stability in the country, what makes the American administration in Iraq by thinking outside of this government, The alternatives assume perceptions of the existing problems, including : negotiate with the armed parties, A review of the law abolishing the Baath «», or rather freeze work a prelude to its abolition. Then amendments to the Constitution in light of what it deems some of the parties involved in the political process.


    A new beginning

    These issues are not far, There are isolation from the Baath »« return to the political arena in Iraq. But perhaps the important and basic obtained by the «return» achieved in the fire : the first organizational, The entity in the restoration of the political party. The second military during the announcement of the organization of a resistance movement «» aware Americans, before others, the extent of their impact because of military experience and organizational them, She expressed the same in business and the confrontations that took place in the recent period against American forces. , which was described - According to estimates by military experts - that the quality of the work «». This is what brings us back to the starting point. The question on the current »« nature - we can not say for the new-Baath organizations «», and whether a «» amendments to the strategy, In tracks his political and intellectual.

    It should be noted first that the Baath «» has not held, so far a country «» «for the election of the leadership of the new country» party and work in the current and future phases, as well as the «political» program includes evaluation of the current situation, specifically, we look ahead to the future-as has been the practice in such conferences - but all that has happened so far is issuing political statements containing an evaluation of the current situation, signed on behalf of the national leadership «» which still adheres to their former, Since the historic grounds «» leadership of Saddam Hussein. This at a time when the parties BAATHISTS that organizations «» Baath returned, not only in Baghdad and the western provinces - which the full organizational entity of the party before others - but also in the provinces of central and southern Iraqi cities and, This means «» restore power in more than one location in relation to the Baath «». Perhaps this is what prompted the declaration of «political program of the resistance».


    The realities facing the decision «»

    This fact brings us back to the starting point is the arrival of the American forces and topple «» Baath regime in Iraq. The adoption of other forces «» in the management of the political process.

    The failures suffered by these new forces. As well as a «» other state entities, - President »« organization, the Iraqi arena, declared itself in the aftermath of the occupation. with the announcement of the campaign against him - including some apprehension, fearing that be a factor in the complexity of the situation inside the Baath «» more than a contributing factor in doubling the force of the Baath «» on the Iraqi arena.

    The day the American civil administrator of Iraq, Paul Bremer, its solution Baath Party «» discontinuation of a number of Iraqi political surprised by such a decision, and one commented by saying : «If the Baath regime cronies in Iraq before the occupation forces, this does not mean that those forces can control him Kianith partisan organization independent of the state organization« »-though he is the commander» «party of the state and the rules» over thirty five years?. He wondered : »« What does a Baath Party »in such a case? Is it an institution of the State, which was the downfall? ».

    There is no doubt that the overthrow of the regime, kicked entity of the State, The laxity of the leadership of the Baath «», The fact that some members of the families, so the number of core cadres of the party into hiding, or leave Iraq, fearing arrest or liquidation ... In fact, negatively affected the party's organizational, what made in the development of closer to disintegration «». Perhaps this is what encouraged, and pay some former Baathists who were in disagreement with Saddam and his leadership, The group of them who lived outside Iraq within the organization independent of the organization «» Iraq and his opposition to the investment opportunity, in addition to the group exhibitions from the inside. Both teams tried to resume their work, beneficiaries of the reality of partisan vacuum «» «leadership of the Baath» traditional, by occupation, the overthrow of the regime, The prosecution «» party leaders. Tnaziman demonstrated on the ground were far from his «historic», both have «» open invitation to party cadres and members to join the organization in order to «restore the party to the reality of ideological struggle», as mentioned in some «» statements issued in this regard. The organization was first announced, and a headquarters known, Like other parties, which announced its existence in the post-occupation ... But the new name is : «» Reform Party, included parties of the group that was split from the party in 1963 in the wake of the 6th National Conference, and the November 18 (November) of the same year led by Salam Aref greeted by the first system of the Baath rule in Iraq after the revolution of February 8 (February) 1963 against Karim Kassem. He was «formal organization of the party on those calls» «» dissidents who had organized a leftist approach, Linked to the national leadership in Syria after the February, which turned the traditional leadership there. Vgertha. After the advent »« traditional leadership to power in Iraq in 1968 descriptive of the organization, which was left «» senior cadre to Syria, to assess the organization there.

    However, this organization «», which is called «» Reform Party did not have the desired effect «» in the new reality of Iraq. Not engage in the ranks of former members of the party only limited numbers - Some objected to the new name «» reality, Others object «content» saying : How can operate under a banner «reform» after that we were working under the banner «revolutionary»? Furthermore, the Reform Party »« This did not participate in the political process «» in Iraq after the occupation. The level of activity in the Iraqi street has been limited. The first weekly political newspaper, was brought to a halt.

    The other is what the organization called itself the nomination of the interim leadership «», It is contrary to precedent, »« secret organization includes some former Baathists who had some role in the so-called day b «» dissent in the formation of the organization «» country, which soon became the self-proclaimed «legitimate leadership of the Party, which represents» «» Reform Party side broader them. Members of the organization are those who did not leave Iraq. Vaetzloa political action. The isolated in any functional center. Some of them even stayed away from state institutions, The outlook them tinged with great caution, Some were subject to the security control of Saddam's regime. Among these interim leadership «» previous military figures, and well-known personalities and the history of partisan, days of the Saddam regime. retired political action retains its position and its vision. This regulation at the same time condemning «practices Saddam and members of his leadership», it opposing the occupation. He called in his unit to «» party's activists, He added that the progress of work done «» «objective of rebuilding the party on the sound foundations known historically», «prepare for the convening of the country in which the election of the leadership of new country». Hence the leadership called «temporary»-an expression known in the literature of the party «» In «» rules of procedure.

    However, this organization «», too, the limited presence and influence in the Iraqi street, and almost limited effectiveness, to issuing statements announcing their positions. The attitudes of these «occasion» and others.


    ... The new realities

    All this The question on the status of the Baath Party «» «Ptnazimath affiliated to the leadership of Iraq», which remains outside the detention only Izzat Ibrahim Al-Duri, Deputy Secretary of leadership, Abdalbaghi Sadoon, a member of the leadership. This organization, which exceeded the number of members of the one and a half million to various degrees partisan «».

    However, the question that arises here is more of us in the course :

    - First : there really should not be overlooked. that percentage may not be large, of this number, they were closer to the marginal partisans «» «them» elements actors - who joined the ranks of the Baath «» of the aims and interests of transient was met requiring joining. They quickly Anfrta of the organization «» with the entry of the first American tanks to the streets of Baghdad. to discuss the most «» site, no matter how marginal, within the new situation «».

    - Second : there are elements of the position they are «undeclared widely from Saddam leadership of the party, they used to think that the party« »no longer, in fact his leadership, the Baath Party «» who know. And some had to «removed himself from the organization», and others found them in the fall of the regime »« opportunity to get rid of «» obligations no longer willing to continue with it. and continued.

    - Third : there «» actual organization through which those joining their commitment, and not to abandon their position. He quickly initiated a number of them to issue statements on behalf of «» and the Baath leadership. On multiple geographical locations. The objective of this, the declaration of the existence of the party and its continuity. This category is called stages :

    - Has begun work to collect the Baathists and not to abandon the historic leadership and declared at the same time «that the resistance is the only way to expel the occupier and gain full national rights».

    Today, after taking a Baath Party «», it seems, through his organizational leadership is not known so far only the names of former party, the emphasis is on the fundamentals of «liberalization and the foundations of the Independent State of Iraq». If the resistance »« Lower face is the most visible, the return of the Baath «» to the political arena, the party submitted today to the resistance of its political «», which is - as he described it - «all the Iraqi patriots, regardless of their political affiliations», thus, opening the doors to the national front with what he described as Iraqi nationalists who reject the occupation, «».
    Another track negotiation :

    However, the Baath »« it is facing all of this to make such arguments, he did not rule out the possibility, of the platform, the question of negotiating with the occupier «», but through the leap forward in terms of its political platform, , which is at the same time, the program of resistance «». If some politicians view these conditions in the ceiling «» high demands in terms of the demands being put on the occupier currently controls the country and destiny. The Baath «» submit prepared by the «national principles represent» «» complete solutions, not half-solutions «», As stated in the program «», which contained a clear vision of the post-occupation.

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    05 November 2006 (Azzaman)
    As conditions in Iraq get out of control, the Whitehouse is said to be considering all 'options' in a bid to contain the situation.

    A top option for the U.S. administration, well-placed Iraqi officials say, is the formation of a new 'salvation government' that may include senior army officers who were active under the former regime.

    The U.S. is reported to be preparing the ground for the formation of such government and would like to have it seen as being a purely Iraqi option.
    U.S. weighing all 'options' to control Iraq | Iraq Updates

    An interesting article. I posted just the first 3 paragraphs, go to the site and read the rest. If this article has any truth to it I wonder how the US will handle things.

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    Hi guys...I know some may be disappointed with noR/V yet.....but wait....have they not stated that a significant raise in value towards the american dollar? Then don't you think it might be reflected tomorrow AM when NY stock exchange opens?....they still are missing Aug and Oct auctions a CBI site...things can still happen...

    Good Luck To All
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