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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster
    Mike,

    Excellent post, total agreement.

    Funny, I used to sell cars for a living and when very young even vacuum cleaners! but I never believed in their products and thus could never put 110% into either. THIS ONE I DO.

    This for me is such a good gamble in which the odds are so favourable it makes it unmissable to have a few $'s on! It really does. Being honest, I make 3% on whatever anyone orders. This isn't a fortune, and with the amount of emails, pm's I send out, it's really not much at all. I would take more pleasure if say 6 months down the line I get an email from someone saying 'Thanks Ads, for the Dinars link, it's made a real difference to my/our life/lives'.

    I'd like others to get wealthy on this. Why not after the current problems with P**s?

    That for me would make me feel great. And yes I will continue to update on any news I hear.
    Others can possibly get wealthy on this...However, they can buy Dinars direct from other sources than your MLM for the same or lesser monies. I have a feeling that a lot of your enthusiasm is based in building a large downline and not making others wealthy. The previous posts I made were just stating possibilities and their repercussions in the event any of them come to pass. One of the first things that gets changed with a regime change is the money. That's all I was stating.

    Also, as another post stated, it most certainly could go down in value. Look at airline stocks; they're cheap right now but you don't see everyone gobbling them up (gambling on them) do you? Why? Because they can still go lower and probably will.

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    Default Not true in my experience

    I can only say that from my own personal experience, Adster has demonstrated that his interest truly is in making people aware of this opportunity and not simply in building a downline.

    Also, as he has clearly pointed out several times, the risk to reward ratio here is extremely attractive. I personally am very grateful to him for bringing it to my attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by everwiser
    Others can possibly get wealthy on this...However, they can buy Dinars direct from other sources than your MLM for the same or lesser monies. I have a feeling that a lot of your enthusiasm is based in building a large downline and not making others wealthy. The previous posts I made were just stating possibilities and their repercussions in the event any of them come to pass. One of the first things that gets changed with a regime change is the money. That's all I was stating.

    Also, as another post stated, it most certainly could go down in value. Look at airline stocks; they're cheap right now but you don't see everyone gobbling them up (gambling on them) do you? Why? Because they can still go lower and probably will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everwiser
    Others can possibly get wealthy on this...However, they can buy Dinars direct from other sources than your MLM for the same or lesser monies. I have a feeling that a lot of your enthusiasm is based in building a large downline and not making others wealthy. The previous posts I made were just stating possibilities and their repercussions in the event any of them come to pass. One of the first things that gets changed with a regime change is the money. That's all I was stating.

    Also, as another post stated, it most certainly could go down in value. Look at airline stocks; they're cheap right now but you don't see everyone gobbling them up (gambling on them) do you? Why? Because they can still go lower and probably will.
    Interesting,

    Now I see your reason for skeptical comments, and that is fine, many people hate MLM, so they will try to justify this with the argument you could purchase the same bills elsewhere. Well, this is true, but as you will see, the prices are pretty close to the same as OMPUS is charging. As example, OMPUs is $860. per million, and I have seen prices range from $840. to $910. just recently, and two of those resellers have stopped selling, and they do not offer a buyback assurance which OMPUS does. There is very little commission involved, as Adster pointed out, but heck, if you can refer a few hundred people it adds to your own portfolio at no additional cost, just the time he puts into helping to answer people. Knowing him as many of us do, it is not for the commissions, this is peanuts compared to the upside potential, so I understand your hatred of all that is MLM. (g)

    As to the point that it could go down, like an airline stock? This is apples to oranges, hardly the same given the airlines are all in bankruptcy at the moment, or about to go into bankruptcy. Governments don't go into bankruptcy, although I think most would if they could, especially the US. (g) I would be more than happy to hear an accurate example of what could make the Iraq dinar dip. If the oil reserves dried up, yes, maybe. If the two rivers Iraq controls dry up, yes, maybe. If Bush was elected president of Iraq, yes, most definately. LOL So what are the odds of currency dipping in value, ZERO.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    if the value of the Iraqi dinar went down by just
    ONE 10,000th OF 1 CENT
    you just LOST 20%

    cut's both ways, of course.
    I accept that.
    but please don't tell people it can't go down because that's not true.

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    clueless, Mike,

    Thanks for your kind words guys. :0)

    Just to back up what Mike has said, I've only earnt $120 in commission to date, not a lot considering I've spent hours on pm's and emails, and researching to put the findings on here. The commission side isn't very much at all, so no I'm not just doing this for myself everwiser.

    I have met contacts through p**s, rolclub and other forums that I truely like and get on with. They send me bits of info, possible investment opportunities and I do the same to them. If I choose to decide to then invest that is down to me. They're not drilling it down my throat! Lol. At 38 years of age I know what I'm doing! The same on here, I am drawing peoples attention to in my view and others view a 'good investment'. What they then choose to do with it is down to them. Guarantees? No such thing, but you have to research, do your own homework and judge for yourself whether it's a viable option or not.

    The end of the day we're all in this together, we all want to make money, either through P**s, Plexpay, ST, whatever!

    So please don't think I have my own agenda. Look at some of my 1000 odd posts and you'll get to know my personality. ;0)

    As for it going down in value? Sorry, personal and humble opinion, no, can't see it, too many good things happening, too many governments involved, too many countries writing off debt, too much oil being pumped.......

    Far as I'm concerned, it's been at the lowest level, and in the words of Yazz and the Plastic Population, with her hit in the 80's, 'The only way is up'!!! :0)
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    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster
    clueless, Mike,

    Thanks for your kind words guys. :0)

    Just to back up what Mike has said, I've only earnt $120 in commission to date, not a lot considering I've spent hours on pm's and emails, and researching to put the findings on here. The commission side isn't very much at all, so no I'm not just doing this for myself everwiser.

    I have met contacts through p**s, rolclub and other forums that I truely like and get on with. They send me bits of info, possible investment opportunities and I do the same to them. If I choose to decide to then invest that is down to me. They're not drilling it down my throat! Lol. At 38 years of age I know what I'm doing! The same on here, I am drawing peoples attention to in my view and others view a 'good investment'. What they then choose to do with it is down to them. Guarantees? No such thing, but you have to research, do your own homework and judge for yourself whether it's a viable option or not.

    The end of the day we're all in this together, we all want to make money, either through P**s, Plexpay, ST, whatever!

    So please don't think I have my own agenda. Look at some of my 1000 odd posts and you'll get to know my personality. ;0)

    As for it going down in value? Sorry, personal and humble opinion, no, can't see it, too many good things happening, too many governments involved, too many countries writing off debt, too much oil being pumped.......

    Far as I'm concerned, it's been at the lowest level, and in the words of Yazz and the Plastic Population, with her hit in the 80's, 'The only way is up'!!! :0)
    Adam mate, well said!
    When we signed up to this forum, we had to click on a link to confirm that we were at least 13 yrs old. I think some people lied.
    As you said, little can be guaranteed and we should go into any opportunity with our eyes as wide open as possible.
    Sure, we make mistakes and end up working with dodgy companies that make incredible promisses, greed is human nature, but everything is done with some risk.
    Whatever vehicle we each choose to reach our financial goals is down to the individual, but this forum and others is a great mechanism for people to share opportunities and report back on how things are performing.

    Good luck to everyone.

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    I wouldn't say that I'm clueless and (not knowing me) you probably shouldn't either. If I was out of line about you Adster, please accept my apology. I didn't mean to imply that you were less than sincere about helping people. I don't hate MLM's, per se, but you can probably agree with me that most of them only benefit those who were able to get into them very early (not like a Ponzi, I know the difference), those that have a huge social base to present to, or those that are great salespersons to begin with. In this particular case, I'm none of the above.

    Lastly, if there's one thing in this world that we can predict it's that we can't be certain of anything. With Iraq being such a hotbed of activity, good and bad, nothing is certain. I was just trying to bring some reality to the current "rosy-ness" of the Dinar. As I said before, I will probably buy the Dinar, but being someone who has to go paycheck to paycheck, signing into an agreement where I have to purchase a minimum dollar amount per month to stay in or profit from the program is just not feasible in my case. I wish you and everyone Good Luck in whatever you/they decide to do.

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    everwiser,

    I wasn't calling you clueless, that was to the other poster who's name is clueless, please read back!

    I accept your apology and totally agree on majority of mlm's. I went into buying these dinars with the intention of just buying for myself but the more I read I thought why not let others know about it and they can make their own minds up. The ones that make the real money are the ones at the top/ones selling them, and that's certainly not myself!

    As for yourself, you don't have to sell them to anyone else. You can sign up as a customer and order some for only you.

    We're all in this together everwiser, and I have no animosity towards anyone on this forum. Nothing would give me more enjoyment than knowing we'd made money out of p**s, dinars, whatever and we all met up in Portugal next year to celebrate and put names to faces and get very drunk, lol.

    Good luck to you my friend.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Hear..., HearrrrR Mate...plenty to get drunked and fizzled all over in the streets of Lisbon...hahaaa hope there's no football at that time too...hate the cops to roll in and spoil the mess...hahaa!

    Just kidding folks....should Luso get drunk reading this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster
    everwiser,

    I wasn't calling you clueless, that was to the other poster who's name is clueless, please read back!....
    My bad...I tend to skip to my last post then read on. Thank you for clarifying that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adster
    We're all in this together everwiser, and I have no animosity towards anyone on this forum. Nothing would give me more enjoyment than knowing we'd made money out of p**s, dinars, whatever and we all met up in Portugal next year to celebrate and put names to faces and get very drunk, lol.

    Good luck to you my friend.
    If this comes to pass, the first drink is on me! Good Luck.

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