Thread: Lets try it again "shall we?" -> I AM NOT A LIAR

Hi

Thanks azima. You said it exactly like i feel like doing now.. But letting members know and have the feel of the changes that will happen to our dinar forum..

I havent myself slept well for the past 3 days. All i want to say is for now that " LEADERS, MOB's, CULT.. You better lay low!!!!

1.Respect for others views.
2.Right to disagree in a respectful manner.
3.No MOB, CULT activity here at all. ( i will remove any leader i have to to acchive my target.

3 warnings and your out....

If you post posts like " Praise me coz i am the best- contented ever again on this forum, you will have simply your self kicked out by Me!".

RUMOR SECTION will be here. All can post inn it. We just need to agree to what we will accept of posts in the rumor section, coz its obviously posted lots of crap in here... Those of you that dont like SGS's rumor, SIMPLE " STAY THE HELL OUT OF HER RUMOR THREADS AND DONT START CRYING LIKE BABIES!!!!!!! THOSE OF YOU THAT HAS ANYTHING AGAINST ANYONE, JUST DROP THE HOSTILITIES, OR YOU CAN TRY JUST ONCE MORE WITH AS MUCH AS A LITTEL pip and i will set your reccords correct on this forum forever..

Leaders: If you seek any kind of attention, and make a hell on my forum Go somewhere else...This is not your area to mob around on. You follow my rules, or get the **** out!

This place will once agian feel like a home.

admin

Originally Posted by azmia

A separation between the haves and the have nots will only increase the disharmony that is being felt by a very small percentage of your posters.

Go on with your forum. If you find you have someone who is not following the TOS then deal with them. I don't care if it is me or Yogi ! A forum is not created for individuals, it is created for the masses. If an individual or a small group of disenchanted members are not happy, then the world is wide open to them and they can go and play with others somewhere else. Not every one in life gets along. But in a controlled 'civilized' community all must show the proper respect, whether it is too a group of Christians or a group of skin heads. It is unfair for certain members of a forum population to think they can do and say whatever they will without the repercussions of their actions coming back and bitting them on the hind end. The last thing I would worry about is them finding a new forum and taking their members with them. It isn't going to happen. I have read the threats, but in all honesty, there is too much information here for them and they need that.

Personally if I were moderating this forum, I would stop with all the warnings and start with the banning.

Marek you set up this area for the Dinars, I know of many people who felt it was a great place for educating their youth at home on world topics. The off handed remarks and nasties replies do not need to be read by under age children. Quite frankly I have shied myself from reading some of these threads because although they start off well, they end up miserable. No one needs to be subjected to the posts, and it isn't fair to all your members who out number this current group of unhappy campers.

My advice would be to leave the forum areas up and running as they are, give no one any special considerations, and start removing offensive posts and if they become to much, kick their backsides to the curb.

Respectfully now, I will retire and logoff and just lurk. It is safer in the lurking area. No bombs to avoid, no missiles of personal attacks.

Take care, and hope this turns out alright for you.

One last thought:
When looking for threads to read I read to see what type of thread it is. For example, I am not going to go into the German thread without my German dictionary, current auto surfs, not my stuff. why should rumor section be in a separate area? Know what your going into before you open, DAAAAAA! Dont like it dont go there!

First of all, admin., I appreciate you taking charge here and bringing issues to the forefront that need to be dealt with. You have asked for solutions to some of these things. So much has already been posted about
what can be done , but I will try to add my opinion. I came to RC b/c I heard it was a fun family atmosphere. When I first bought dinar last Jan, I knew nothing about any forums. I found RC to be refreshing because it was a place where you could get information via the articles, but with some pizzazz and flair mixed in. The rumors add excitement, so I would allow people to post a "hearsay" in that section, and the news thread to be strictly articles and interpretations, and even a few WOOOOTs.

b/c that's what makes RC so unique and fun. You have made suggestions already about keeping rumors to the rumor thread and facts to the news thread; i would suggest allowing both to continue and

let us have fun with the rumors if need be. It helps me to take the light road instead of the heavy road, especially when a date passes and discouragement sets in

This doesn't mean i hate rumor posterers, but it helps things sink in and allows this ride to remain exciting if we are allowed to be ourselves in there.


what bothers me is the idea that some people from another chat area might deliberately post a rumor on purpose for their own agenda, whatever that may be


You have done a good job trying to eliminate some of this by removing some people who pushed things too far or had malicious intent.

I would suggest keeping a thread alive with rules and regulations, especially for newbies.

I would also suggest keeping the rumor section going, and the "chit chat" going, for we have gotten plenty of people saying that they enjoy the lightheartedness we bring when things fell gloomy with the dinar


the past 2 days or so, RC doesn't feel like home or like the fun family atmosphere it once was

when i first started posting. I think in order to get back to THAT place again, everyone should take note of the rules, abide by them, we should report posts to you, admin, that may
need attention, rather than adding fuel to the fire by bickering back and forth. Those are my suggestions.

I just want RC back.

Originally Posted by davzgirl

I knew that I had seen that suggestion and was going back through the postings to see (for sure) who had made that suggestion. I, too, believe that may be an option. If you start a rumor thread, you own it solely (if that is possible to create). You are the only one that can post in it and no others can reply, only read. If someone has a problem with your rumor, they can start another thread to voice their opinions.

I concur! The rumors are fun to read, it's the ensuing discussion that always brings it down.

The RC news thread rocks!

I know lots of you have already taken part in what should be done.. But the most of you are still on the waiting bench.

All i want is to go back to the way it used to be without any hostilities. And i think 90% of the members here think the same as i.

But there will be no leaders in here. If certain people post a rumor. YOU WILL NOT PRAISE ANYONE EVER AGAIN ON THIS FORUM!

Oh thank you so much for your post.
i love you coz your the best.
you have done so much for us by bringing us this new
We need you... etc etc..

All this sort of crap has to stop. These posters are no ROCK stars.

You make it a hell for me to deal with these leaders. They think they are untuchable... Do you see what i mean.

admin

Originally Posted by wellwishes

I do not like the idea of separate or 'priviledged" threads. Anyone who visits this forum should be able to read any info on the Dinar. I believe that would further encourage the "cult" mentality.

I believe lglwzd's suggestion was excellent. Simply leave the rumor section for viewing only...No comments except for updates or additional info/comments by the author of any particular rumor thread. That eliminates over 90% of the bickering and fighting in here.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why those who do not like rumors, cannot simply avoid the rumor section. In my opinion, they are deliberately looking to cause trouble and ill will.

This might be a viable option. This way the thread stays clean and you don't have wade through a lot of pages of nonsensical info just to find the updates your looking for.

YOUR VISION IS MY VISION cooldolphins..

But i see that the TOS/RULES thread is not so interesting for members here. I post it all over the forum, and its over looked. That is why we have this session today with all of the dinar forum on HOLD to i am satisfied that things around here will change.

regards

admin

Originally Posted by cooldolphins

First of all, admin., I appreciate you taking charge here and bringing issues to the forefront that need to be dealt with. You have asked for solutions to some of these things. So much has already been posted about
what can be done , but I will try to add my opinion. I came to RC b/c I heard it was a fun family atmosphere. When I first bought dinar last Jan, I knew nothing about any forums. I found RC to be refreshing because it was a place where you could get information via the articles, but with some pizzazz and flair mixed in. The rumors add excitement, so I would allow people to post a "hearsay" in that section, and the news thread to be strictly articles and interpretations, and even a few WOOOOTs.

b/c that's what makes RC so unique and fun. You have made suggestions already about keeping rumors to the rumor thread and facts to the news thread; i would suggest allowing both to continue and

let us have fun with the rumors if need be. It helps me to take the light road instead of the heavy road, especially when a date passes and discouragement sets in

This doesn't mean i hate rumor posterers, but it helps things sink in and allows this ride to remain exciting if we are allowed to be ourselves in there.


what bothers me is the idea that some people from another chat area might deliberately post a rumor on purpose for their own agenda, whatever that may be


You have done a good job trying to eliminate some of this by removing some people who pushed things too far or had malicious intent.

I would suggest keeping a thread alive with rules and regulations, especially for newbies.

I would also suggest keeping the rumor section going, and the "chit chat" going, for we have gotten plenty of people saying that they enjoy the lightheartedness we bring when things fell gloomy with the dinar


the past 2 days or so, RC doesn't feel like home or like the fun family atmosphere it once was

when i first started posting. I think in order to get back to THAT place again, everyone should take note of the rules, abide by them, we should report posts to you, admin, that may
need attention, rather than adding fuel to the fire by bickering back and forth. Those are my suggestions.

I just want RC back.

Thank you Mia... that was exhilarating to spot what you mentioned and yes, NO EXCEPTION...albeit you or Yogi.

Good to see you lurking safe and throwing in good points...not water-filled balloons on those rumor mongers...which are a fun platform for going bonkers...!!!

Please take these poll suggestions as they are intended.
1) Enforce RC TOS rules
2) Enforce RC TOS rules
3) Enforce RC TOS rules
4) Enforce RC TOS rules
5) Enforce RC TOS rules
6) Enforce RC TOS rules
7) Enforce RC TOS rules
8) Enforce RC TOS rules
9) Enforce RC TOS rules
10) Enforce RC TOS rules

This remindes me of when speeders go around a curve too fast and wreck their car. Then they complain the road isn't safe. If they had gone the speed limit they would probably not wrecked their car. It's not the roads fault, it's the person who determines to break the rules. No new rules are needed, just enforce the ones we have even handedly across the board. Members and mods alike cannot call names or insult people, etc.
Admin, your desire to eliminate mob vs cult is admirable but it ain't gonna happen IMHO. Firs, mobs usually form because a group gets all whipped up over an issue and then rush off and do something studpid like hanging someone thats innocent. Mobs break up and go away when they think the issue has been handled to their satisfaction. On the other hand, cults go much deeper and are there 24/7.
I don't see mob here. I see sincere people defending someone they have an attachment to mentally. Defending someone is no excuse for lack of civility, use of fowl language or insulting someone. Maybe we should take a lesson from our House and Senate (ugh I don't believe I said that). They are required to call each other colleagues and esteemed colleagues even if in their hearts they happen to strongly dislike the person. No one ever gets old enough to take liberties and be rude and insulting.
Those that group together should not be labeled as cults JMHO. Even calling them a click/clique may be insulting. I would take umbridge if you called me a member of a cult and consider it quite insulting. It is way to easy to generalize and categorize people. We need to stop that.
Please, please just enforce RC TOS and lets get on with it. Nothing else has to be changed JMHO.

Originally Posted by Admin

The Worst Case Senario

I Will Close The Whole Dinar Forum On Rolclub For a few Day for you to think for a solution!, Or Permanently if MOB mentality will be used. This is no threat. But a fact. I can not babysit this place nonstop.

Solution Is Now Your Choice. But Mob, Group and Cult Mentality Will NOT be a part of this Forum any longer.
ORDER WILL BE RESTORED ON THIS FORUM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.


Admin

Those that know me, know I am respectful and sensible. Admin I admire your willingness to clean up all the BS that goes on in this forum. I say this; you will never be able to completely stop the animosity between some of the factions in the rumor threads, as much as I would love to see that. You are only one person, and I am sure if you were not a busy person, you could hang out in here 24/7, barring the meals, restroom breaks and naps. Closing the Dinar portion of RC, would not fix the problem. The people that come in here needs to check their egos at the keyboard. I'm sure you know there are folks from other forums that come in here to pick up any information they can get to stay on top of the game. And I am sure there are some from here that does the same things in other forums. You and you Moderators have a powerful hand over this forum and everyone that visits it. I'd say, if an individual comes in with nothing better to do but stir the pot, they know who they are and your Mods know as well, they should get one warning in the open forum, then the very next attack should be dealt with by banning them for 3-5 days, when they get back, they have no more warnings. The next time it's 1-2 weeks, then a month, and then permenantly. Any and all violations of the TOS should be dealt with in this manner, and ALL Mods should hand it out equally. That's my take and I hope you don't think I am trying to steal your gig or anything, but you asked for suggestions on how to fix this. I'm just trying to help.

Terry