Thread: "Marshall Plan=International Compact" Originally posted by paynes1

They have definitely been planning this way before President Bush got into office he even admitted it to a reporter on CNN or Fox News one of those. He said I planned on taking Saddam out if I got in to office. Very interesting. I am just really pleased I found out about his great plan.

BRING ON RV!!!!!

Dinar-Excited

Originally Posted by deerslayer69
Yea, this all makes perfect sense, Iraq has been Bush's pet project, and I believe he aint about to let it fall through the cracks. If this was all planned prior to Bush taking office, it makes sense why he chose Dick Cheny as Vice President, from what I understand Cheny is a major shareholder in Halliburton Energy Services.

Posted by Tmorr37:

Halliburton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dick Cheney ties
In recent years the company has become the center of several controversies involving the 2003 Iraq War and the company's ties to U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney. Cheney retired from the company during the 2000 U.S. presidential election campaign with a severance package worth $34 million[7]. As of 2004, he had received $398,548 in deferred compensation from Halliburton while Vice President.[3] Cheney also retains unexercised stock options at Halliburton, which have been valued at nearly $8 million.[3]

Concerns have been raised regarding the possible conflict of interest resulting from Cheney's deferred compensation and stock options from Halliburton. However, before entering office in 2001, Cheney bought an insurance policy that guaranteed a fixed amount of deferred payments from Halliburton each year for five years so that the payments would not depend on the company's fortunes.[3] He is legally bound by an agreement he signed which turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (in Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education. The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," preventing Cheney from taking back the options at a later date.[3]

In 2004, Senator John Kerry released a political ad which claimed that during his tenure as Vice-president, Cheney received nearly two million dollars from Halliburton. John Edwards also made a number of attacks on Cheney's record as CEO of Halliburton. Cheney then claimed that "Factcheck.com" refuted those claims. He meant Factcheck.org, which monitors the political accuracy of statements in speeches and TV ads. Users going to Factcheck.com were re-directed to a site which made an attack on Cheney's record. Also, not even factcheck.org defended Cheney's tenure- it simply refuted the charges made in Kerry's ad.

Cheers!
DayDream

Originally Posted by Barbara919

Snottynose, I am so new on the computer and I just recently learned how to cpoy and paste, but I went to IIF and then to the members list and looked up Paynes and it took me to all thes great posts. Will that help you? Barbara

BB919, thanks,I'm not so good with computers either,never used one until rolclub.The news is wonderful and exciting,thinga are moving right along.It won't be very long now.Here's to the whole dinar gang Reval here we come,cayman islands here we come!!!!


Sarah!!!!GO DINAR GO!!!!!!

That's deep man. Interesting stuff. So what are your thoughts on this being planned in advance? Keep in ind I am not a political person, and I don't believe or disbelieve in "consiparcy Theory" but I do find it very facinating

OZIZOZ, This is true about the Secret Society, This is not the first time I have heard about this. But there were a lot more Presidents in it, We "little People" are not supposed to know about this though.

my apologeez if I hijacked this one . . .I see the black helicopters and unmarked sedans circling . . .

and now back to the Marshall Plan already in progress . . .

Originally Posted by ozizoz

my apologeez if I hijacked this one . . .I see the black helicopters and unmarked sedans circling . . .

and now back to the Marshall Plan already in progress . . .

Good Morning - I see that many have gotten their eyes opened about GW and Cheney. Maybe some will give me a break when I post a slam dunk on GW. Don't forget that GW was Texas Governor and I have been following and researching the Bush Family for years. What is very upsetting is that many newspaper story's per GW's president are GONE - vanished REALLY fast. But since I am a paper person, I did print many of the newpaper storys, just as a history. Also their was a Guest list for the Governors Mansion when GW was living there - well That list of Guest tells allllllll before he became president - well it's also gone. But if I ever get to Austin, I hope to find it in the Library down there, but we don't think it will be there or if it is - it's not correct.

Also if someone is wanting to research more into GW back ground - please be careful - we learned real quick that people don't want you to do that.

Lets see what happens on the 19th???

GREAT FIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris

An interesting point here is that the Marshal plan is that although it called for a new currency it didn’t account for “Free market” strategy, at least not in the arena of price and wage control removal. This aspect seemed to be the brainchild of economist Ludwig Erhard. He was front and center for Germany’s economic miracle. Since that time I guess they saw it worked since it resulted in twenty-five years of absolute economic growth so it seems to have been incorporated into the plan.

The similarities of Iraq and Germany are the introduction of the new currency, debt relief abroad and massive cash infusion to rebuild a democratic state.

Iraq’s case is though is more like the Marshal plan on Steroids. With Germany external debt was forgiven to approx. 65% where Iraq is near 80-90%

The value of financial infusion is similar in real dollars.

Internal debt incurred by the people was reduced at a rate of ten to one. In Iraq’s case it is an all cash society so I do not believe that this part is relevant except for the larger idea that debt forgiveness is an economic stimulus.

In both cases the currency was traded at 1:1 [except of the small amount of Swiss dinar @150:1]

Then there is of course the Seed money. In Germany it was 40 Deutchemarks before the RV then another gift later. In Iraq we know of the 10,000 dinar gift and we also know how poorly news of it is received.

In Germany’s case the currency exchange, RV and money gift happened overnight. Iraq is slightly different only showing that each circumstance needed to be tailored for its individual uniqueness.

The gift and RV should be tied together. It would seem so to me anyway otherwise it’s not much of an economic stimulus. For us investors this point could be the most important and similar phase. If its economic stimulus they want then they should follow history and I think they will.

The forecast currency value we have already had a fairly good idea. I maintain that it never needed to be based on the current reserves of the CBI. Economists generally believe that if your economy is primarily based on oil then your currency value needs to be tied to it, as is the case with Kuwait who is a 90% oil export economy. Plus we all know about the program rate verses the Real rate mentioned many times in IMF documents.

Anyway back on track, it would seem that the most interesting time for investors is coming in the next few weeks. What keeps sticking in my mind is this coming gift and not to forget all those contracts of seemingly no value unless we have an RV.

Well that's my take on it.

I'm very surprised that SGS hasn't commented on this thread. How about it Susie? Any thoughts on this?

Cheers!
DayDream

Hi everyone, I pm'd Paynes and told him what I did, that I took his posts and brought them to another forum, I haven't heard back from him yet. I thought I better come clean with him. I told him I did it with rectitude. Barbara