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    Quote Originally Posted by goldraker View Post
    Excuse me sir, when do you think we will start to see some movement!!!!!!

    I do not know a date or time . You can compare Iraq to a turtle, you dont know how long it will take to get to pond , but eventually it will get there.
    Sorry I am not not much help , but all the signs are there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinartank View Post
    Paynes your the man....your research is amazing. You prove all your points based on facts with links. Theres not much to argue or naysay to your posts. The only questions that lye out there is do they have the smaller denoms comming out. Theres been the one report 9 of 14 denoms printed are out so that leaves 5 to be unaccounted for. IS THIS A TRUE FACT???? My other question that i always wondered was is there 15 trillion in circulation or just printed with maybe half sitting in CBI vaults...hmmm???? Which leaves me to think how can they support a revalue of substainal value...and which Paynes just proved through the ESf defending to stabalize the rate and the goverment US Secretary has the power to control sdrs into dollars. Not to mention all the gold that was found that was said in articles. With that said If and when the smaller bills are put into place and thats a huge IF. That now is truly the last peice of the puzzle. IRAQ can revalue at what ever the HELL THEY WANT TO!!!!! yes i heard the rumor of appolo saying there getting ready to the small denoms out there and thats why the CBI website was down..blah blah blah I HOPE he is right...but i also keep in mind that hes a dealer looking to make a buck..so i take his post and rumors with a grain of salt. WOOOOT WOOOT is are train coming in soon or what!!!! Cause im ready to get off this 2 year train ride.
    Her is thread that explains about 14 denominations. reprint of dinar - what about 25k's - Investor's Iraq Forum Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paynes1 View Post
    Her is thread that explains about 14 denominations. reprint of dinar - what about 25k's - Investor's Iraq Forum Hope this helps.
    I tried to pull up the link and couldn't throught the IIF, I finally did get it through the search and thought I would post it for others that may have trouble as well.

    http://www.cipe.org/regional/mena/ir...nopsis_ep6.pdf

    Economic
    Files
    A weekly businessoriented
    television
    show produced,
    written, directed, and
    broadcast by Iraqis
    with additional support
    provided by the
    Center for International
    Private Enterprise
    To view the entire
    episode, please visit
    www.cipe.org/iraq
    Center for International Private Enterprise
    1155 15th Street, N.W. • Suite 700 • Washington, DC 20005
    [email protected] • (tel) 202-721-9200 • (f) 202-721-9250 • CIPE | Center for International Private Enterprise
    Featured Guests: Mr. Ali Hassan Abu Naila (Director General,
    Exchange Department, Central Bank of Iraq), Mrs. Nibal Thanon Al-
    Sai’gh (Director General, Transfer and Credits Department, Central
    Bank of Iraq), Mr. Walled Eddy Abdul Nabi (Assistant Director
    General, Exchange Department, Central Bank of Iraq), Mr. Hussam
    Abid Ali (CEO of private bank: Economics Bank for Investments
    and Funding), Mr. Moayad Basher Hadded (Financial Consultant),
    and Dr. Emad Mohammad Ali (Professor of Economics, Baghdad
    University).
    The program discussed the financial sector and money markets in
    Iraq, with a special focus on the role of the Central Bank of Iraq.
    The program addressed the following topics:
    • Regulation and stocking of Iraqi currency
    • Monitoring of credits according to the general monetary
    policies of the government.
    • Fixing the rate of the Iraqi Dinar and fighting inflation
    • Partnership opportunities between local and international
    private banks
    The three guests from the Central Bank discussed the bank’s
    plan to enhance the Iraqi banking sector and financial markets
    throughout 2006. They highlighted a series of steps that have
    already been taken, including:
    • Establishing the Central Bank’s independence from the
    Ministry of Finance
    • Training 70% of the bank’s staff on international best
    practices
    • Printing a series of 14 new Iraqi Dinar notes and coinsHowever, guests on the show representing private banks and the
    private sector, as well as average Iraqis interviewed on the street,
    voiced the following concerns about the policies of the Central
    Bank:
    • There is only one financial market within Iraq, the Iraq Stock
    Exchange, which is dominated by a few key players.
    • The procedures for participating in the Iraq Stock Exchange
    are very cumbersome. For example, it takes 45 days for a
    certificate to be issued to a new stockholder.
    • Private banks require support from the Central Bank to
    obtain training for their staff in areas such as information
    technology, international best practices, and English.
    • Checks issued by private banks are not accepted by state and
    government entities.
    Aldiyar Satellite
    Broadcasting presents:
    Episode 6 Synopsis: The Financial Sector and Money Markets
    Airdate: August 6, 2005
    Economic Files does
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    the views of CIPE
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    May the New Year bring hope & prosperity to all Iraq and for all of us!

    God bless our soldiers and bring them home safe.

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    newest Post From Paynes1 Today:
    The timeline of the International compact for Iraq.
    The Start was July 27, 2006

    HIGHLIGHTS OF THE NOON BRIEFING

    BY MARIE OKABE
    DEPUTY SPOKESMAN FOR THE SECRETARY-GENERAL

    UN HEADQUARTERS, NEW YORK

    Thursday, July 27, 2006

    IRAQ: INTERNATIONAL COMPACT IS LAUNCHED

    the link ARCHIVES

    Then we have the meeting in Abu Dhabi where Kofi said the following....

    "Since its launch on 27 July, considerable work has already gone into the Compact, which will provide the framework for a defined, prioritized and benchmarked economic programme for the next five years. The recent preparatory meeting held in Abu Dhabi on 10 September has given the Compact further direction and content.


    Yet it remains a work in progress. Indeed, the need to complete the Compact in good time?ideally by the end of the year?must be balanced by the equally great need for it to be well-developed, substantive and sustainable. A broad consultative process both inside and outside Iraq, to ensure adequate buy-in of the Compact, is indispensable.


    Finally, Iraq remains under a number of obligations imposed by the Council under Chapter VII. Since the country now has a sovereign, constitutionally-elected Government, I hope Council members will find a means to address this situation as early as possible."

    Notice the words buy in , he is talking about other counrties.

    the link The Secretary-General's Statements

    11/10/2006
    The International Compact has a meeting in bagdad with video links to the European Union, World Bank, ................

    "Secretary-General Kofi Annan’s Special Representative Iraq Ashraf Qazi and Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh co-chaired the meeting, which was also attended by senior Iraqi ministers and Government advisors, with a video-link to the European Union (EU) presidency, World Bank, UN Headquarters in New York, the Arab Fund and the Islamic Development Bank."

    All the big boys listened in on this meeting.

    the link http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=2285

    Then they schedule a meeting on the 19th of Octocber with no news releases. They are not letting it be known if they did meet.

    "The meeting discussed progress made thus far, and the upcoming steps to ensure success of the ICI. These steps will include, among others, expanding and reviewing the ICI draft to reflect comments by Iraqi officials and donors. Outcomes of the first round of Sector Working Groups and the second iteration of the ICI Document as updated will be presented to the Preparatory Group Members at the next PG meeting to be held on Oct 19 in Baghdad."

    the link Show Article

    I would say the next stage would be the implementation stage of the international compact.
    The reasons to believe this.
    1. More than likely the have or are real close to solving all the outstanding debt issues.
    2. They apparently have the ACH and RTGS functional and are just sitting.
    3. The 100 billion Id full capitalization to the Central bank of Iraq will not be a problem on implemention of the International compact. This was supposed to take place by Dec 31, 2006 according to the Stand by arrangement.
    4. The International Advisory and Monitoring Board has a meeting scheduled Oct 31 , 2006. When they meet the Iraqi Govt can Request control of the oil proceeds from the IAMB and Resend Resolution 1637 and sign article VIII and trade thier curency internationally.
    5. The real big problem is Inflation is currently at 70% and increasing in Iraq.
    This will have a definte impact on thier reserves and could cause their economy to collapse if the inflation rate continues a steady pace upward.


    All this info sounds like it may happen soon, but we have to remember that we are on Iraqs timeline not ours.

    However , there will be a day when we can go to the bank and say show me the money.
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    Don Rumsfield,Dick Cheney, Ronald Reagan, Daddy Bush,Clinton, George W Bush
    US and Iraq 1980 to 1988. Reagans era value of dinar 3.22 to $1.00

    Time line
    1980 A US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document reports that since the
    mid-1970s, Iraq has been “actively acquiring” chemical weapons. [Phythian, 1997]
    April 10, 1980 Saddam’s Interior Ministry issues directive No. 2884, which
    orders the detainment of some 5,000 people—mostly Kurds of Iranian
    background—between the ages of 18 and 28. These people will never be seen again
    (see Late Summer 1980). [Independent, 12/13/2002]

    1981-1988 The Reagan administration provides covert support to Iraq in an effort
    to prevent Iran from overrunning the oil-rich states of the Persian Gulf. [New
    York Times, 8/18/2002; Washington Post, 12/30/2002; Nation, 8/26/2002]
    US Air Force officers are secretly deployed to Iraq to assist their counterparts
    in the Iraqi military. [Nation, 8/26/2002]
    The US provides satellite photography to Iraq revealing the movements of the
    Iranian forces. [New York Times, 8/18/2002; Washington Post, 12/15/1986 Sources:
    senior military officers with direct knowledge of the program, Unnamed informed
    sources interviewed by reporter Bob Woodward]
    The US provides Iraq with intelligence gathered by Saudi-owned AWACS operated by
    the Pentagon. [Nation, 8/26/2002]
    Iraq uses US-supplied military intelligence “to calibrate attacks with mustard
    gas on Iranian ground troops....” (see 1984) [Washington Post, 12/15/1986
    Sources: Unnamed informed sources interviewed by reporter Bob Woodward]
    “[M]ore than 60 officers of the Defense Intelligence Agency .... secretly ...
    [provide] detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for
    battles, plans for airstrikes and bomb-damage assessments for Iraq.” [New York
    Times, 8/18/2002 Sources: senior military officers with direct knowledge of the
    program]
    President Reagan and Vice President George Bush personally deliver military
    advice to Saddam Hussein, both directly and through intermediaries (see 1986).
    [Washington Post, 12/30/2002; Affidavit. United States v. Carlos Cardoen, et al.
    [Charge that Teledyne Wah Chang Albany illegally provided a proscribed
    substance, zirconium, to Cardoen Industries and to Iraq], 1/31/1995 ]
    The US closely monitors “third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure Iraq
    [has] the military weaponry required.” [Washington Post, 12/30/2002; Affidavit.
    United States v. Carlos Cardoen, et al. [Charge that Teledyne Wah Chang Albany
    illegally provided a proscribed substance, zirconium, to Cardoen Industries and
    to Iraq], 1/31/1995 ]
    According to the censured portion of Iraq’s December 7, 2002 declaration to the
    UN (see December 7, 2002) (see December 19, 2002), Lawrence Livermore National
    Laboratory and Sandia National Laboratories help train Iraqi nuclear weapons
    scientists and provide nonfissile material for Iraq’s nuclear weapons program.
    [San Francisco Chronicle, 1/26/2003]

    (1981-1993) US and British companies are among several Western firms that sell
    Iraq materials that can be used to develop nuclear, chemical, biological, and
    conventional weapons. [Associated Press, 12/21/2002; New York Times, 12/21/2002;
    Washington Post, 12/30/2002; San Francisco Chronicle, 1/26/2003; Sunday Herald
    (Glasgow), 2/23/2003]
    United States -
    Biological: American Type Culture Collection, several biological precursor
    agents for diseases like anthrax, gangrene, and the West Nile virus; Alcolac
    International, Thiodiglycol, the mustard gas precursor; Al Haddad, 60 tons of a
    chemical that could be used to make sarin; Dow Chemical, $1.5 million of
    pesticides (see December 1988). [Washington Post, 12/30/2002; New York Times,
    12/21/2002; Die Tageszeitung (Berlin), 10/18/2002]
    Nuclear: TI Coating; UNISYS; Tektronix; Leybold Vacuum Systems; Finnigan-MAT-US;
    Hewlett Packard; Dupont; Consarc; Cerberus (LTD) ; Canberra Industries; Axel
    Electronics Inc. [Die Tageszeitung (Berlin), 10/18/2002; Z Magazine, 10/29/2002]
    Rocket Program: Honeywell ;TI Coating; UNISYS; Honeywell; Semetex; Sperry Corp.;
    Tektronix; Hewlett Packard; Eastman Kodak; Electronic Associates; EZ Logic Data
    Systems, Inc. [Die Tageszeitung (Berlin), 10/18/2002; Z Magazine, 10/29/2002]
    Conventional weapons: Honeywell; Spektra Physics; TI Coating; UNISYS; Sperry
    Corp.; Rockwell; Hewlett Packard; Carl Zeis -U.S; Union Carbide. [Die
    Tageszeitung (Berlin), 10/18/2002; Z Magazine, 10/29/2002; San Francisco
    Chronicle, 1/26/2003; Washington Post, 12/30/2002]
    United Kingdom -
    : Nuclear weapons: Euromac Ltd-UK.; C Plath-Nuclear; Endshire Export Marketing;
    International Computer Systems; MEED International; International Computer
    Limited; Matrix Churchill Corp.; Ali Ashour Daghir.; Inwako; XYY Options, Inc.
    [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 2/23/2003]
    Chemical weapons: MEED International; International Computer Systems;
    International Military Services; Sheffield Forge*******; Technology Development
    Group; International Signal and Control; Terex Corporation; Walter Somers Ltd.
    [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 2/23/2003]
    Conventional: International Computer Systems; International Computer Limited;
    TMG Engineering. [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 2/23/2003]
    Entity Tags: Walter Somers Ltd., Terex Corporation, TMG Engineering, American
    Type Culture Collection, International Signal and Control, Technology
    Development Group, Sheffield Forge*******, Axel Electronics Inc., Canberra
    Industries, Cerberus (LTD), Consarc, Al Haddad, Alcolac International, Dupont,
    Hewlett Packard, TI Coating, UNISYS, Tektronix, Finnigan-MAT-US, Leybold Vacuum
    Systems, Dow Chemical, Honeywell, Semetex, International Computer Limited,
    Matrix Churchill Corp., Ali Ashour Daghir, International Military Services, XYY
    Options, Inc., Inwako, MEED International, International Computer Systems, C
    Plath-Nuclear, Electronic Associates, Eastman Kodak, Sperry Corp., EZ Logic Data
    Systems, Inc., Spektra Physics, Rockwell, Euromac Ltd-UK, Union Carbide, Carl
    Zeis -U.S, Endshire Export Marketing

    July 1982 Iraq uses chemical weapons against Iranian troops. [US Department of
    State, 11/1/1983 ]

    November 26, 1983 US President Ronald Reagan issues National Security Directive
    114 on the United States’ policy toward the Iran-Iraq war. The document—which
    makes no mention of Iraq’s use of chemical weapons—calls for increased regional
    military cooperation to protect oil facilities and for improving US military
    capabilities in the region. The directive states, “Because of the real and
    psychological impact of a curtailment in the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf
    on the international economic system, we must assure our readiness to deal
    promptly with actions aimed at disrupting that traffic.” [US President,
    11/26/1983 ]
    Entity Tags: Ronald Reagan

    December 20, 1983 US Special Envoy Donald Rumsfeld—who at this time is CEO of
    the pharmaceutical company, GD Searle and Co.—personally meets with Saddam
    Hussein for 90 minutes in an attempt to reestablish diplomatic relations with
    Iraq. Rumsfeld also discusses US interest in the construction of the Iraq-Jordan
    Aqaba oil pipeline [to be built by Bechtel (see December 2, 1983)]. [Newsweek,
    9/23/2002; MSNBC, 8/18/2002; Washington Post, 12/30/2002; London Times,
    12/31/2002; Vallette, 3/24/2003; New York Times, 4/14/2003; Iraqi television,
    12/20/1983; US Department of State, 12/10/1983 ; US Department of State,
    12/21/1983 ] Rumsfeld does not raise the issue of Iraq’s use of chemical weapons
    with Saddam. [US Department of State, 12/21/1983 ] After his meeting with the
    Iraqi president, Rumsfeld meets with Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz. They
    agree that “the US and Iraq ... [share] many common interests.” Rumsfeld briefly
    mentions US concerns about Iraq’s chemical weapons, explaining that US “efforts
    to assist [Iraq] ... [are] inhibited by certain things that made it difficult
    for us.....” [US Department of State, 12/21/1983 ] On September 19, 2002, almost
    two decades later, Rumsfeld will be questioned in Congress about this visit (see
    September 19, 2002). [US Congress, 9/20/2002]
    Entity Tags: Donald Rumsfeld, Saddam Hussein, Tariq

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    March 24, 1984 The US State Department briefs Donald Rumsfeld who is preparing
    to make another visit to Baghdad (see (March 26, 1984)). In a memo to Rumsfeld,
    Secretary of State George Shultz laments that relations with Iraq have soured
    because of the State Department’s March 5 condemnation (see March 5, 1984) of
    Iraq’s use of chemical weapons and expresses considerable concern over the
    future of the Aqaba pipeline project [to be built by Bechtel (see December 2,
    1983)] which the US is pushing. Shultz writes:“Two event have worsened the
    atmosphere in Baghdad since your last stop there in December: (1) Iraq has only
    partly repulsed the initial thrust of a massive Iranian invasion, losing the
    strategically significant Majnun Island oil fields and accepting heavy
    casualties; (2) Bilateral relations were sharply set back by our March 5
    condemnation of Iraq for CW [chemical weapons] use, despite our repeated
    warnings that this issue would emerge [as a public issue] sooner or later. Given
    its wartime preoccupations and its distress at our CW statement, the Iraqi
    leadership probably will have little interest in discussing Lebanon, the
    Arab-Israeli conflict, or other matters except as they may impinge on Iraq’s
    increasingly desperate struggle for survival. If Saddam or Tariq Aziz receives
    you against consider, and to reject, a pending application from Westinghouse to
    participate in a $160 million portion of a $1 billion Hyundai thermal power
    plant project in Iraq, this decision will only confirm Iraqi perceptions that
    ExIm [Export-Import Bank] financing for the Aqaba pipeline is out of the
    question. Eagleburger tried to put this perception to a rest, however,
    emphasizing to Kittani the administration’s firm support for the line (see March
    15, 1984). The door is not yet closed to ExIm or other USG [US government]
    financial assistance to this project....” At the very end of the cable, it is
    noted that “Iraq officials have professed to be at a loss to explain our actions
    as measured against our stated objectives. As with our CW statement, their
    temptation is to give up rational analysis and retreat to the line that US
    policies are basically anti-Arab and hostage to the desires of Israel.”
    [Vallette, 3/24/2003; US Department of State, 3/24/1984 ]
    Entity Tags: Donald Rumsfeld, George Shultz

    April 5, 1984 US President Ronald Reagan issues presidential directive NSDD 139,
    titled, “Measures to improve US posture and readiness to respond to developments
    in the Iran-Iraq War.” The directive stresses the importance of ensuring US
    access to military facilities in the Gulf region and preventing “an Iraqi
    collapse.” Though the directive says that the US should maintain its policy of
    “unambiguous” condemnation of chemical warfare—without mentioning Iraq—the
    document also emphasizes that the US should “place equal stress on the urgent
    need to dissuade Iran from continuing the ruthless and inhumane tactics which
    have characterized recent offensives.” The directive does not suggest ending or
    reducing US support for Iraq. [Battle, 2/25/2003; US Department of State,
    3/30/1984 ]
    Entity Tags: Ronald Reagan
    October 1, 1984-October 13, 1993 The Reagan and Bush administrations’ commerce
    departments allow US companies and the US Centers for Disease Control and
    Prevention to export chemical and biological agents as well as other dual-use
    items to Iraq, despite the country’s known record of using chemical weapons.
    According to government regulations, the Commerce Department must send
    applications for export licenses which involve items related to national
    security to the appropriate US government agencies for review. Reviewing
    agencies include the State Department, Department of Defense, Energy Department,
    and Subgroup on Nuclear Export Coordination. But in many cases, the Commerce
    Department either does not send national security-related applications to these
    agencies for review, or if it does, it overrides a review agency’s
    recommendation not to grant a license, allowing the item to be exported anyway.
    [Jentleson, 1994, pp. 79; Timmerman, 1991, pp. 202, 410] According to two Senate
    Committee Reports that will be completed in 1994, one on May 25 and another on
    October 7, dual-use chemical and biological agents exported to Iraq from the US
    significantly contributed to the country’s weapons arsenal. The initial May
    report will say the agents “were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of
    reproduction” and the October report will reveal that the “microorganisms
    exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations
    inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program.” The
    1994 investigation also determines that other exports such as plans and
    equipment also contributed significantly to Iraq’s military capabilities. “UN
    inspectors had identified many United States manufactured items that had been
    exported from the United States to Iraq under licenses issued by the Department
    of Commerce, and established] that these items were used to further Iraq’s
    chemical and nuclear weapons development and its missile delivery system
    development program,” Donald Riegle, the chairman of the committee, will
    explain. He also says that between January 1985 and August 1990, the “executive
    branch of our government approved 771 different export licenses for sale of
    dual-use technology to Iraq.” [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002; London Times,
    12/31/2002; CounterPunch, 8/20/2002; US Congress, 5/25/1994; US Congress,
    10/7/1994; US Congress, 5/25/1994]
    Biological and chemical agents -
    Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax. [CounterPunch, 8/20/2002; Sunday Herald
    (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]
    Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin. It was sold to Iraq right up
    until 1992. [CounterPunch, 8/20/2002; Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]
    Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord
    and heart. [CounterPunch, 8/20/2002]
    Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs. [CounterPunch,
    8/20/2002; Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]
    Clotsridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness, gas
    gangrene. [CounterPunch, 8/20/2002; Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]
    Clostridium tetani, highly toxigenic. [CounterPunch, 8/20/2002; Sunday Herald
    (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]
    Also, Escherichia Coli (E.Coli); genetic materials; human and bacterial DNA.
    [CounterPunch, 8/20/2002]
    VX nerve gas. [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]
    Pralidoxine, an antidote to nerve gas which can also be reverse engineered to
    create actual nerve gas. This was sold to Iraq in March 1992, after the end of
    the Gulf War. [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]
    Other exports -
    Chemical warfare-agent production facility plans and technical drawings.
    [Newsday, 12/13/2002]
    Chemical warfare filling equipment. [Newsday, 12/13/2002]
    Missile fabrication equipment. [Newsday, 12/13/2002]
    Missile system guidance equipment. [Newsday, 12/13/2002]
    Graphics terminals to design and analyze rockets. [Washington Post, 3/11/1991]
    Machine tools and lasers to extend ballistic missile range. [US Congress,
    7/2/1991]
    Computers to develop ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons. [US Congress,
    7/2/1991]
    $1 million in computers, flight simulators and other technology products that
    went to Saad 16 research center in Iraq (see November 1986). [Washington Post,
    3/11/1991]
    Entity Tags: Donald Riegle, US Congress Additional Info

    1988 The US increases the amount of military intelligence it provides Iraq, a
    significant portion of which is channeled to the Iraqis through the CIA’s
    Baghdad office. [Washington Post, 12/30/2002]

    March 1988 According to several accounts, Iraq uses US-supplied Bell helicopters
    to deploy chemical weapons during its campaign to recapture lost territories in
    its war with Iran. One of the towns that is within the conflict zone is the
    Kurdish village of Halabja, with a population of about 70,000. Between 3,200 and
    5,000 Halabja civilians are reportedly killed by poison gas. Other accounts,
    however, suggest that Iranian gas is responsible for the attack on Halabja, a
    version that is promoted by the Reagan administration in order to divert the
    blame away from Iraq. Some believe the US version of the Halabja massacre is
    “cooked up in the Pentagon.” A declassified State Department document
    “demonstrate[s] that US diplomats received instructions to press this line with
    US allies, and to decline to discuss the details.” [Washington Post, 3/11/1991;
    Los Angeles Times, 2/13/1991; US Department of the Navy, 12/10/1990; New York
    Times, 1/31/2003; International Herald Tribune, 1/17/2003]

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    March 24, 1989 Secretary of State James Baker receives a memo from the State
    Department informing him that Iraq is aggressively developing chemical and
    biological weapons, as well as new missiles. In spite of this disturbing
    intelligence, the memo also instructs Baker to express the administration’s
    “interest in broadening US-Iraqi ties” to Iraqi Undersecretary Kizam Hamdoon.
    [US Department of State, 3/24/1989]
    Entity Tags: James Baker, Kizam Hamdoon

    July 25, 1990 US ambassador to Baghdad, April Glaspie, meets with Saddam Hussein
    and promises him that Bush wants “better and deeper relations.” She also claims
    that the president is an “intelligent man,” adding, “He is not going to declare
    an economic war against Iraq.” [Washington Post, 12/30/2002; London Times,
    12/31/2002] She also informs him that the United States has “no opinion” on
    Arab-Arab conflicts, such as Baghdad’s border disagreement with its neighbor.
    [Los Angeles Times, 1/5/2003]
    Entity Tags: George Herbert Walker Bush, April Glaspie, Saddam Hussein

    August 2, 1990 Iraq invades Kuwait.

    1992 The last shipment of Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin, is
    sent to Iraq. [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]

    March 1992 Iraq receives its last shipment from the US of Pralidoxine, an
    antidote to nerve gas which can also be reverse engineered to create actual
    nerve gas. [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 9/8/2002]

    September 19, 2002 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is subjected to intense
    questioning by Senator Robert Byrd about the United States’ role in providing
    Iraq with the materials for its chemical and biological weapons and Rumsfeld’s
    December 20, 1983 visit to Baghdad (see December 20, 1983). [US Congress,
    9/20/2002]
    Sen. Robert Byrd - “Mr. Secretary, to your knowledge, did the United States help
    Iraq to acquire the building blocks of biological weapons during the Iran-Iraq
    War? Are we, in fact, now facing the possibility of reaping what we have sown?”
    [US Congress, 9/20/2002]
    Defense Secr. Donald Rumsfeld - “Certainly not to my knowledge. I have no
    knowledge of United States companies or government being involved in assisting
    Iraq develop chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.” [US Congress, 9/20/2002]
    Sen. Robert Byrd - “[After reading Mr. Rumsfeld excerpts from a Newsweek
    article] Let me ask you again: Did the United States help Iraq to acquire the
    building blocks of biological weapons during the Iran-Iraq War? Are we, in fact,
    now facing the possibility of reaping what we have sown?” [US Congress,
    9/20/2002]
    Defense Secr. Donald Rumsfeld - “I have not read the article.... I was, for a
    period in late ’83 and early ’84, asked by President Reagan to serve as Middle
    East envoy after the Marines—241 Marines were killed in Beirut. As part of my
    responsibilities I did visit Baghdad. I did meet with Mr. Tariq Aziz. And I did
    meet with Saddam Hussein and spent some time visiting with them about the war
    they were engaged in with Iran. At the time our concern, of course, was Syria
    and Syria’s role in Lebanon and Lebanon’s role in the Middle East and the
    terrorist acts that were taking place. As a private citizen I was assisting only
    for a period of months. I have never heard anything like what you’ve read, I
    have no knowledge of it whatsoever, and I doubt it.” [US Congress, 9/20/2002]
    Entity Tags: Robert C. Byrd, Donald Rumsfeld

    The link- US-Iraq 1980s

    more to come

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    The Teicher Affidavit: Iraq-Gate

    The Teicher Affidavit: Iraq-Gate

    Following is the sworn court declaration of former NSC official Howard Teicher,
    dated 1/31/95, regarding 'Iraqgate.' The document is currently under seal by the
    US District Court, Southern District of Florida. The original document bears
    Teicher's dated signature.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

    Plaintiff,

    v. Case
    No.:

    93-241-CR-HIGHSMITH
    CARLOS CARDOEN,
    FRANCO SAFTA,
    JORGE BURR,
    INDUSTRIAS CARDOEN LIMITADA, DECLARATION OF
    a/k/a INCAR, HOWARD TEICHER
    SWISSCO MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC.
    EDWARD A. JOHNSON
    RONALD W. GRIFFIN, and
    TELEDYNE INDUSTRIES, INC.,
    d/b/a,
    TELEDYNE WAH CHANG ALBANY,

    )
    Defendents.
    _____________________________________________


    I. Howard Teicher, hereby state that, to the best of my knowledge
    and belief, the facts presented herein are true, correct and complete. I
    further state that to the best of my knowledge and belief, nothing stated
    in this Declaration constitutes classified information.

    1. My name is Howard Teicher. From 1977 to 1987, I served in the
    United States government as a member of the national security bureaucracy.
    >From early 1982 to 1987, I served as a Staff Member to the United States
    National Security Council.



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    7. CIA Director Casey personally spearheaded the effort to ensure
    that Iraq had sufficient military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to
    avoid losing the Iran-Iraq war. Pursuant to the secred NSDD, the United
    States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis
    with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military
    intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third
    country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military
    weaponry required. The United States also provided strategic operational
    advice to the Iraqis to better use their assets in combat. For example,
    in 1986, President Reagan sent a secret message to Saddam Hussein telling
    him that Iraq should step up its air war and bombing of Iran. This.......

    The Freedom of Information Center
    Following Iraq's bioweapons trail


    By Robert Novak
    Sun-Times Columnist
    September 26/02
    Sen. Robert Byrd, a master at hectoring executive branch witnesses, asked
    Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld a provocative question last week: Did the
    United States help Saddam Hussein produce weapons of biological warfare?
    Rumsfeld brushed off the Senate's 84-year-old president pro tem like a Pentagon
    reporter. But a paper trail indicates Rumsfeld should have answered
    yes......................................
    the Link
    Following Iraq's bioweapons trail


    Secret Message From James Baker to Tariq Aziz

    This October 21, 1989 cable carries the text of a secret message from Secretary
    of State James Baker to Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz. Baker informs Aziz,
    whose government 13 months previously had gassed Kurdish villages, that "the
    United States seeks a broadened and deepened relationship with Iraq." President
    Bush's policy, writes Baker, "is to work to strengthen the relationship between
    the United States and Iraq whenever possible."

    the link
    Secret Message From James Baker to Tariq Aziz read bottom of page

    lets not forget the sanction imposed on saddams regime at the end of the gulf
    war and the time line of the OIl for food.

    Oil for food timeline
    INDEPTH: IRAQ
    Oil-for-food program timeline
    CBC News Online | October 27, 2005

    April 14, 1995:
    The UN Security Council passes Resolution 986, which allows Iraqi to buy food
    and medicine with money raised from the sale of its oil. Iraq doesn't accept the
    resolution until May 1996.

    the link CBC News Indepth: Iraq

    the sanctions completely broke down Iraq. And the oil for food was completely
    crooked in the way it was run.

    Ronald Reagans era -1981 to 1989
    Daddy Bush era- 1989 to 1993
    Bill Clinton - 1993 -2001
    George w Bush 2001- to present

    All these presidents have one thing in common they knew that Iraq had chemical
    weapons we supplied them.

    The funny thing about all this the Iraqi dinar is it remained level in value up
    until the sanctions took place for invading kuwait.

    One Iraqi dinar remained equal to US$2.80 until December 1971, when major
    realignments of world currencies began. Upon the devaluation of the United
    States dollar in 1973, the Iraqi dinar appreciated to US$3.39. It remained at
    this level until the outbreak of the Iran-Iraq War in 1980. In 1982 Iraq
    devalued the dinar by 5 percent, to a value equal to US$3.22, and sustained this
    official exchange rate without additional devaluation despite mounting debt. In
    early 1988, the official dinar-dollar exchange rate was still ID1 to US$3.22;
    however, with estimates of the nation's inflation rate ranging from 25 percent
    to 50 percent per year in 1985 and 1986, the dinar's real transaction value, or
    black market exchange rate, was far lower-- only about half the 1986 official
    rate.

    The Iraqi dinar was worth $US3.20 before the United Nations embargo that
    followed Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait. By August 2002 it was trading at just
    below 2000 to the US dollar, and by mid-April 2003 it had slipped to anywhere
    between 3500 and 4000 against the dollar. In July 2003 one US dollar equaled
    about 1,500 Iraqi dinars. Nearly all the bank notes issued after the 1991 Gulf
    War were without watermark or metal line due to technical difficulties, which is
    why so many forgeries took place.

    the link New Iraqi Currency / New Iraqi Dinar

    They did not have adequte reserves in the CBI to be able to cover a $3.22
    exchange rate prior to invading Kuwait. They had been in a war with Iran and
    this where the debt came and it drained all thier reserves. We helped Iraq with
    this war in suppyling arms knowingly and all past and present presidents have
    participated.

    We now have the International Compact which is the same as the marshall Plan
    with 20 countries particpating in the economic recovery of Iraq. The g-8 is in
    this group of countries and is responsible for 65% of the worlds trade.
    This alone will probabably fast track the WTO process. The members of the
    International compact have every intention of increasing trade with Iraq and any
    value below 1=1 is not a option.

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