Thread: Iraq/Dinar News Until 5/31/2007 7:15 PM CST..

Loaded with Good Stuff here: Translated version of http://www.alsabaah.com/

Originally Posted by RollsRoyce

Indy's Uncle Joe knows two members of the KRG who are in close contact with the guys who are involved in the negotiations . . . & he relates that they are still working on the HCL 24/7 . . . as I am typing this message . .

They take few breaks for naps, chow, etc . . . despite any / all news articles . . . remember please . . . any news articles are @ least hours / if not days old . . .

My sources only know about the HCL in 3rd hand details . . . but / I am also assuming that they are working on the other stuff GWB keeps calling Malili about . . .

The Kurds remember in the most detail how bad things will turn if we leave pre-maturely . . .

If / when I hear anything alse I'll be around . . .

Best to all . . . RR . . .

He also says that they occasionally yell @ each other . . . run out of the room . . . screaming . . . . perhaps within earshot of reporters . . . but they keep getting back into it, either in person or on the phone . . . . . .

Anyone who knows Iraqi's knows that this is the way they do business . . . very vocal / very animated . . .

Best, again, . . . RR . . .

Originally Posted by neno

Implementation of the pension law

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Parliament on the table

Mr. President of the Iraqi Parliament, Dr. Mahmoud Almchidani esteemed.



Members of the Iraqi Parliament respectable.

Greetings and appreciation

We retirees Salah Al Din, and the surrounding regencies, civilians and soldiers like you andall members of the Iraqi parliament thanks and gratitude and appreciation and respect for your confirmation Retirement Law




Standard No. 27 of 2006 and acknowledging the full voting members of Parliament who are consequences for all Iraqis, and defenders of rights of the Iraqi people and the best proof of that Bemsadeghtkm to this law from the date of issuance in 2006/1/17 and retroactively this and hope you follow up the implementation of this law with the Prime Minister and the Finance Ministry in order to support the families retirees and their families since tried tried to differentiate between the retired veterans and retirees who brought new items according to the law and according to their whims and reasoning and that differentiating between the people of this nation and stand against those retirees who stands up to more than five million and a half homeless themselves and for their families, all voted for the constitution in such difficult circumstances arrived from the PA and the ministry vote and the votes of other members of the society.

We have put some obstacles in the path of mainstream interest of the law, and if they pay the salaries of retirees and their own pocketbooks and their homes note and as you know this is their legal status in the Constitution and the legitimate right, but they forgot the privileges and huge salaries and benefits as well as the special privileges they had obtained other, as well as travel expenses very high and continuing along this month from the blood of people miserable and a time when we ask you to follow up on this matter with the Cabinet we would like to point out here that Mr. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki man Professor Cherif, fair and zealous everyone Iraqis without discrimination or differentiation between a range of other, we in Tikrit is the sincerest personal free in Iraq since Abdullah Karim Qassem, the prime minister in Iraq and he also resembles the national men loyal to Iraq, which did not happen in Iraq (one inch theirs).

We call on Mr. Prime Minister and instruct emphasis on the Ministry of Finance to accelerate the application of the law as soon as possible and pay all the differentials to all retirees, as the salaries of their peers currently in service and without any manipulation of the rights of the people oppressed, so from the date of the law in 2006/1/17 and retroactively and thank position Member of Parliament Mr. (Sunaid) to discuss its position in the common law of retirement and put embrace all retired old and new and big among the Iraqi people in their rights and duties and their equal rights as stipulated in the new Constitution, which guarantees the rights of every citizen and person Iraqis without discrimination in religion and race and creed.

Where we received information confirming that the Ministry of Finance is delaying the interpretation of the law according to its discretion, demanding a mechanism for the application of the law to contribute to the usefulness of this considerable segment of the community after a long time of deprivation and hunger.

We say to those who want our Understating : Take our hands will not push people to the problems of access to their rights and their pensions will be sorry that stands in front of the will of this people and talented people to a crisis situation and to create sedition rejoices by murderers and criminals at home and abroad, Pay to retirees their full rights and Ansavoa people at the earliest and without procrastination and as we passed since the date of the retirement law and common publication in the Official Gazette (Aliraqiya) in 2006/1/17 now await application and we ask quick answer our requests, and we are confident you and your kind, Mr. Speaker and members, Mr. President Mr. Minister and Finance Minister respectable May peace and God's mercy and blessings.

Signature



Retirees Salah Eddin / Tikrit and accessories from the district and sub-district and other villages of the province of Salah Eddin civilian and military

Translated version of http://www.alsabaah.com/

well well well,
watch what happens now boys and girls!!!!!

KRG.org , 24 May 2007

What intimidate from the text of Article 140 of the Iraqi constitution?

Zuhair Kazem Aboud

The Iraqi State Administration Law for the transitional phase, Article 58, in order to remove the injustice caused by the practices of the former regime, a change of the demographic situation of certain regions, including Kirkuk region, through deportation and deny individuals from their places of residence, It is through forced migration from within and outside the region, and the resettlement of individuals strangers on the region, depriving the population of the work, and through correct nationalism, and to address this injustice, for the transitional government to take the following steps :

(A) The interim Iraqi government, especially the supreme body to resolve property disputes and other relevant agencies, and urgently, take the following steps :

1.With regard to residents displaced and exiles, immigrants and migrants, in line with the supreme law of resolving property disputes, and other legal proceedings, the government has done in a reasonable period, the residents to their homes and property, and if that was not possible for the government just compensation.

2.For individuals who have been relocated to areas and certain territories and the government to decide their fate according to article 10 of the supreme body to resolve disputes real property, to ensure the possibility of resettlement, or to ensure the possibility of receiving compensation from the State. or they assume the possibility of new land from the state near the headquarters of residence in the governorate from which they came, or the possibility of receiving compensation for the costs of moving to such areas.

3.For persons who have been deprived of employment or other means of living for the purpose of forcing them to migrate from their places of residence in the occupied territories, the government should encourage the provision of new job opportunities for them in those areas and land.

4.As for the actual correct national government to abolish all relevant resolutions, and to allow the affected people, the right to national self-identity and ethnicity without coercion or pressure.

(B) The manipulation of the former regime also limits administrative and other in order to achieve political goals. The Presidency and the interim Iraqi government to make recommendations to the National Assembly in order to address those changes unfair. In the event that the presidency unanimously approved a series of recommendations, for the Presidency to appoint a neutral arbitrator and unanimously for the purpose of studying the subject and make recommendations. In the case of the inability of the Presidency to agree on an arbitrator, for the Presidency to request the Secretary-General of the United Nations to appoint a reputable international arbitration required to do.

(C) defer final settlement of disputed territories, including Kirkuk, pending completion of the above procedures, and conducting a census fair and transparent, and until ratification of a permanent constitution. Must be such a settlement in line with the principles of justice, taking into account the will of the inhabitants of those territories.

Certainly every Iraqi knows and is aware of the scheme of the defunct regime change in regard to the fact and the nature of the city of Kirkuk, and all owners of conscience and the conscience of the neighborhood also know that targeted schemes presence Alkordi and Turkmen in this city and the scheme which sought to change the defunct regime. Because hateful chauvinistic tendencies were deported clans and families from the Arab regions to Kirkuk, some of which forced some of which sticks, also worked extinct authorities to deport large numbers of Alcord and Turkomen from the Kirkuk area, and worked to change the national number of citizens under the pressure of need and coercion, Since those methods and schemes with the intention of producing the results they want Saddam's authority, Mmayojb be suspended and work to countless results and attempt to cancel all harm humanity.

The text of Article 58 of the State Administration Law for the transitional phase, which revealed the extent of the problem legally caused by the defunct regime, and placed in the way of those results to avoid solutions in general and explicit references postponed at the expense of the citizens Cord Izloa not residing in camps without shelter, With a Cord and Turkmen citizens were forcibly removed from Kirkuk, with a Cord and Turkmen citizens changed their nationality, and with the provinces was attached to other areas adjacent to Kirkuk, with a huge amount of land disputes, which should be taken care of and solutions to the urgent and humanitarian.

Throughout the transition period could not find the cause of Kirkuk only procrastination and delay and delay, we did not find the successive Governments on good comprehensive solution to the problem, which wanted the ousted regime, did not find attention commensurate with the plight of the people, the postponement has become slogans and marginalization overcome all solutions, and returned tone hateful chauvinism advocated by the extinct spreading among people, and spread rumors that wants the blinding truth and the people's understanding of the dimensions.

:

When the Constitution was adopted the text of Article 140 of the Constitution refers to :

First : The executive authority to take the necessary steps to complete implementation of the requirements of Article (58) of the Iraqi State Administration Law for the transitional stage with all its paragraphs.

Secondly : responsibility of the executive power in the transitional government provided for in Article (58) of the Iraqi State Administration Law for the transitional phase and will continue to extend executive power under this Aldstorali elected to complete the full (normalization. Statistics and expiring referendum in Kirkuk and other disputed areas to determine the will of its citizens) to a maximum of thirty-first of the month of December the year two thousand and seven.))

Since the adoption of the Constitution and work, it was incumbent upon the executive power reasonable and adequate attention to the implementation of the requirements mentioned text, and despite the magnitude of the problem and reflection on the overall humanitarian Adraraha them from the case, in particular segments of the families that it sees them homeless or have been usurping their property or have been transferred outside the area of Kirkuk, there were only a procrastination and lax attitudes and statements that accompany it promises, without Adana embodiment of those solutions or constitutional law texts made by the transitional phase.

The solution is the formation of a parliamentary committee to be granted powers to work to implement the requirements of Article 58 of the Code of the transitional phase, and complete its work in the normalization and propose practical solutions and Statistics, in a maximum period of 31/12/2007, and was heartened by the Iraqis to elect Mr. Hamid Majid Moussa, Secretary of the Iraqi Communist Party, in view of the position of the Communist Party of the important issues in Iraq, and recognize the leadership of vandalism, which happened in Saddam's time, Mr. Musa know these facts, but the Committee's efforts have been stalling, and worked several quarters to hinder the work of the Committee and of putting obstacles in the way of accomplishing its task.

Since remained of the time only a few months should be adhered to the words (at a maximum) to complete the task, and in this particular time started some voices resound against the above-mentioned article, what happened and how it changed the situation and what is the justification for these votes?

There are those who say that the case will go to secede from Kirkuk, Iraq, and are accused of leadership Alcordstanih to swallow the city of Kirkuk, and there are people who want to save Alcord of Kirkuk, and another called for a humane and democratic, according to his viewpoint and not according to the Constitution, The writings of calls to be Kirkuk as they were in the era of the tyrant, and the voices of searching in the dark about any issue raised in order to pull the wool over the eyes of the right of appeal in Alcord and other voices Latrille in federal solution is not logical for Cord alone, but each of Iraq, Consequently, the Commission of Iraq in the coming constitutional form which will dictator regime, however, the only thing absent from these is the solution to the humanitarian and acceptable drawn by Article 140 of the Constitution, and Kirkuk in any event will not cause Iran and Abalkoic, will be deducted from the body of Iraq. It remained To reassure Alouajafh hearts of the Iraqi city they reside Alcord, Arabs and Turkmen, and the city a model of brotherhood and love, and follow the statements of leaders Alcordstanih aware of that, and the restoration of the rights of the oppressed, and to restore Mousoubin estate was not a dark one, but re-evaluation of the right and of justice, The Ombudsman humanitarian requirement demanded by everyone, it is unreasonable to call some of the injustice of Saddam to keep the people in Kirkuk, and the abolition of all procedures and methods heroes came by the Saddam regime and the national Iraqi decision, not only Kirkuk, but on all the cities of Iraq, For example, it has been canceled identify real property issued by Saddam and suffered by the people of Iraq, and now the Iraqi buying real estate in all areas of Iraq, he did not find the abolition of the resolution only welcome and acceptance. the Commission's decision to Kirkuk return to their areas of the Arab tribes from which they came in the Middle Euphrates approval and financial compensation Rewardingly the right thing, as many of those who came and forcibly perception them stay in the regions of Kirkuk and farmland left in the Euphrates. what many of them that the consent is a prerequisite to return and restore Alkordi or Turkmen land, which was rolled by.

Some fear shown by the output of either lack of foresight or absorb what happened to Kirkuk, or that conscience is still contaminated hostile chauvinistic attitude in the heart and controlled substances, some of this hostility Aijaher but did not relieve himself has never Aikhls, who wants truth and justice for himself to be convinced by the right of others, not merely the right conviction allegations and the prosecution.

The cancellation of all the solutions put forward and consider the problem of Kirkuk seized reflect the implicit hatred of Atosalena for acceptable solutions, and the clash with the text of a constitutional paints humanitarian solution to the problem of the list had come to the basic steps to solve a stubborn and unacceptable Ainsjm with the Constitution, Had been raised any other solution to the problem could be a matter of discussion points, but to rescind and revoke the text and go back to the days of the tyrant, dead - and-buried in deportation decisions and changing national and population movements and displacements, it is really unacceptable and inconsistent with logic and justice.

And wonder why intimidate from the text of Article 140 of the Constitution? Instead of clinging to the text urged committees and the executive power to accelerate the implementation of the requirements of responsibility, Valecord, Turkmen and Arabs living in Kirkuk are human beings and the need for any human solution restore human rights and consistent with the development of the city and its history, which recognizes the full authorities tried to cover chauvinism and hide, However, the truth must play like the sun.

The text of Article 140 does not produce much of the terror and fear, and there is no justification for calling some voices rising in the light of freedom and democracy want uncontrolled decomposition of the constitutional text, as entertain this text enshrines respect for the Constitution and laws, and proves the seriousness of the executive to contribute by humanitarian rise to the level of Kirkuk.

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KRG, Kurdistan Regional Government

Originally Posted by neno

Loaded with Good Stuff here: Translated version of http://www.alsabaah.com/

and the way you find the most recent articles or the dates of the articles is to click 'archive' at the top of the page and then this month which takes you to a page listing every article from this month at al sabaah in ascending order by date.

Originally Posted by RollsRoyce

He also says that they occasionally yell @ each other . . . run out of the room . . . screaming . . . . perhaps within earshot of reporters . . . but they keep getting back into it, either in person or on the phone . . . . . .

Anyone who knows Iraqi's knows that this is the way they do business . . . very vocal / very animated . . .

Best, again, . . . RR . . .

After thought . . . I believe that a lot of what is happening currently has as much to do with Gen. Petrias as GWB / etc. . . . apparently he is a man of his word . . . and he has apparently made a pledge, [for lack of a better word] . . .

And according to Uncle Joe his name comes up amongst the Iraqi's more often than any politicians . . . they respect military guys more than any politicians . . .

Best, again, . . . RR . . .

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

well well well,
watch what happens now boys and girls!!!!!

Sus,

Always love your enthusiasm. I know you've been tellin' us that when this thing passes we know it's close. I've never really known why the pension law is a key piece of legislation in the reval puzzle though. Can you take a minute or two and explain it to me? And thanks!

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a letter asking the Parliament to please pass the law and pay the retirees.

Originally Posted by neno

Implementation of the pension law

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Parliament on the table

Mr. President of the Iraqi Parliament, Dr. Mahmoud Almchidani esteemed.



Members of the Iraqi Parliament respectable.

Greetings and appreciation

We retirees Salah Al Din, and the surrounding regencies, civilians and soldiers like you andall members of the Iraqi parliament thanks and gratitude and appreciation and respect for your confirmation Retirement Law




Standard No. 27 of 2006 and acknowledging the full voting members of Parliament who are consequences for all Iraqis, and defenders of rights of the Iraqi people and the best proof of that Bemsadeghtkm to this law from the date of issuance in 2006/1/17 and retroactively this and hope you follow up the implementation of this law with the Prime Minister and the Finance Ministry in order to support the families retirees and their families since tried tried to differentiate between the retired veterans and retirees who brought new items according to the law and according to their whims and reasoning and that differentiating between the people of this nation and stand against those retirees who stands up to more than five million and a half homeless themselves and for their families, all voted for the constitution in such difficult circumstances arrived from the PA and the ministry vote and the votes of other members of the society.

We have put some obstacles in the path of mainstream interest of the law, and if they pay the salaries of retirees and their own pocketbooks and their homes note and as you know this is their legal status in the Constitution and the legitimate right, but they forgot the privileges and huge salaries and benefits as well as the special privileges they had obtained other, as well as travel expenses very high and continuing along this month from the blood of people miserable and a time when we ask you to follow up on this matter with the Cabinet we would like to point out here that Mr. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki man Professor Cherif, fair and zealous everyone Iraqis without discrimination or differentiation between a range of other, we in Tikrit is the sincerest personal free in Iraq since Abdullah Karim Qassem, the prime minister in Iraq and he also resembles the national men loyal to Iraq, which did not happen in Iraq (one inch theirs).

We call on Mr. Prime Minister and instruct emphasis on the Ministry of Finance to accelerate the application of the law as soon as possible and pay all the differentials to all retirees, as the salaries of their peers currently in service and without any manipulation of the rights of the people oppressed, so from the date of the law in 2006/1/17 and retroactively and thank position Member of Parliament Mr. (Sunaid) to discuss its position in the common law of retirement and put embrace all retired old and new and big among the Iraqi people in their rights and duties and their equal rights as stipulated in the new Constitution, which guarantees the rights of every citizen and person Iraqis without discrimination in religion and race and creed.

Where we received information confirming that the Ministry of Finance is delaying the interpretation of the law according to its discretion, demanding a mechanism for the application of the law to contribute to the usefulness of this considerable segment of the community after a long time of deprivation and hunger.

We say to those who want our Understating : Take our hands will not push people to the problems of access to their rights and their pensions will be sorry that stands in front of the will of this people and talented people to a crisis situation and to create sedition rejoices by murderers and criminals at home and abroad, Pay to retirees their full rights and Ansavoa people at the earliest and without procrastination and as we passed since the date of the retirement law and common publication in the Official Gazette (Aliraqiya) in 2006/1/17 now await application and we ask quick answer our requests, and we are confident you and your kind, Mr. Speaker and members, Mr. President Mr. Minister and Finance Minister respectable May peace and God's mercy and blessings.

Signature



Retirees Salah Eddin / Tikrit and accessories from the district and sub-district and other villages of the province of Salah Eddin civilian and military

Translated version of http://www.alsabaah.com/

Originally Posted by RollsRoyce

He also says that they occasionally yell @ each other . . . run out of the room . . . screaming . . . . perhaps within earshot of reporters . . . but they keep getting back into it, either in person or on the phone . . . . . .

Anyone who knows Iraqi's knows that this is the way they do business . . . very vocal / very animated . . .

Best, again, . . . RR . . .

Thanks RR - love seeing your posts. I'm wondering if they haven't completed it since GW came on Fox News today and said the US had decided to continue backing the Iraqi govt. Hope so - things would be coming all together at once if this was true.

Originally Posted by stargate-sg13

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a letter asking the Parliament to please pass the law and pay the retirees.

We retirees Salah Al Din, and the surrounding regencies, civilians and soldiers like you andall members of the Iraqi parliament thanks and gratitude and appreciation and respect for your confirmation Retirement Law

thanking them for confirming it. thats not asking, thats thanking.