I guess you all read about the child support information relating to
thousands of UK families going adrift from a Government dept just
recently.
Well, one of the guys from the "Top Gear" television programme wrote
into one of the daily newspapers. No need to panic over lost personal
data he said, and here are my bank details to prove there is no risk.
The paper printed them, and someone (kindly) hacked into his account
and create a standing order to some charity.
We all gotta exercise as much caution as possible.
paddy
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07-01-2008, 06:56 PM #1051
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Thanks Paddy... you simplified the perspective for those that needed quite some time to get drilled with a simple equation on how valuable it is to preserve ones's vital details... even while thinking...In the name of the Law & country... all is fine here in the USA.
Strange enough as well... lots of incredible "naivety" stems out of the USA... "no offense" Lynn... and thats why, u're doing what is needed to reduce that statistic.
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Paddy: Excellent point. However, when you have an investment account with a broker, you do provide them all this information. Now if GPP is real, and those that got into this believed it was real (why else join?), then why would you have problems providing this information? Isn't showing much trust in the people you have trusted up until now is it.
When identity theft was first brought up about GPP, all the promoters and supporters made fun of anyone doing so. We didn't kow what we were talking about, all this information is available anyway, so what's the big deal. Now that they are finally asking for it, all of a sudden panic is setting in. Not that I blame you, but it isn't consistent with the position everyone supporting this had initially. Now either you trust these people or you don't. If you don't, then how do you still believe this is real? Real insurance pension plans do require you to provide this information in an application. So far, you have not seen an application, only the request for your banking information. One would think they would be asking for the insurance application be completed first, since banking information is contained on that form. At least they do on real insurance pension plans.
Please do not construe this as an attack on anyone. I am merely pointing out some inconsistencies from before to now.
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08-01-2008, 04:21 AM #1054
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Such sensitive details are usually given to a person acting within the confines of
a company you wish to deal with, not posted, or broadcast over the internet.
This is better news from todays GPP forum post.
2. Could my payout be post-poned until the Banking Solution is up and running?
Yes. We can hold your payout until the solution is finalized, so you don't have to
take it on your personal account.
7. Can my entire family use the same bank account to receive the payouts?
Yes.
8. Is this the only form we have to complete, or will there be other forms also?
Global Pension Plan Members Agreement is the only form to complete!
9. Am I obliged to provide my personal bank account details?
No, of course not!
Write "BANKING SOLUTION" in the Account Holder's Name field. We will then hold
your payment until the Banking Solution has been finalized.
14. There are certain regulations for Banktransfers, for example re. a transfer more than 50.000 Euro these banks needs to be informed in advance. And then for transfers more than 250.000 one needs a special account etc. And the banks want to have informations where the money comes from etc. So I definitely think that the Trust Partners have to supply data for the bank, so that there is no suspicion on money laundry. Could you maybe say some words on that?
We will give you one-week notice in advance before the funds are to be sent out so that you can inform your bank for the incoming wire.
If YOUR bank's policy is, that you'd need a "special" account for deposits/balance larger than 250.000EUR, and your GPP earnings exceeds this amount, contact your banker ASAP and create such an account.
18. Can I create an IBC/Foundation/Trust/etc. and open a bank account for it and then have my payout made into the new account?
Yes, you can!
You should have enough time to create any legal structure you may desire and have it up and running by the time of the payout.
19. Can I ask you to hold my payout until my new legal structure has been set up and then send you the new banking coordinates alongside with the payout reguest?
Yes, you can.
In this case please write WILL BE PROVIDED LATER in the Account Holder's Name field
20. Do the ID Copies need to be proofed by a notary or do you just need the normal Copy of ID Documents?
The copy doens't have to be notarized.
25. What ID Documents can be used?
For adults we either need a copy of the Passport or a copy of the Drivers License. Any of them will do!
For children we need their Birth Certificate as they do not have any other ID Document.
The copy must be 100% legible! We really, really recommend to you to make a coloured copy.
The absolute Optimum would be a coloured copy double size, but this is not mandatory.
The keynote here is that it really must be very easy to read.
30. When will the Bank Solution be ready and how will it be like (Debit Card)?
It's extremely difficult to predict. If you have kept yourself updated what is happening in the current banking world, then you know how difficult it is to set up these things. But the Trust Partners do all they can and try to fulfill their promises.
The target is to be able to offer members an offshore bank account with online banking and credit card.
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Paddy:
You are not posting your information on the Internet or any forum. You were sending it to the people to whom you trust is running a legal program.
This notion that all of a sudden they have banking issues is totally ludicrous. They have had 3 years to put this banking solution together. These are "Pro's," or at least they claim they are. Think about this. If everyone waits for the banking solution, they do not have to worry about any payouts, or coming up with any excuses why they are not happening. But you have given them the perfect reason for delays. They cannot get the banking solution finalized due to the current situation with the banking industry. Get real. It is no different today than it was 6 years ago. They have no deadline now they must meet. Convenient isn't it.
I will give them credit for a good smoke and mirror game. Only problem is too many will believe this pap.
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Stallings
One Stall after another. Why don't they use Southern Star Private International Bank. Maybe some of their Kraut members who are often lurking here can contact Mr Uwe Mossakowski or his wife Alexandra in Germany or at their Dominican Republic address and inquire. How about contacting Stella Middleton for the truth, oh yes , there is such a person. [email protected] . The cons feel they are clever , but the walls are closing in.
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Paddy - I'm not too sure that the GPP information equates to good news!
I'm sure they will be happy to hold the promised returns until they find a "banking solution" whatever that may be. That should give them a few years head start.
I believe Lynn pointed out that there has been no substantial change in banking regulations for the past few years so the claim that it is due to this that they are unable to provide the anonymous debit card is just a load of the you know what. Actually, it always was since there is no such card.
I notice somewhere that many are touting IBC's and offshore banks as a solution should the money ever arrive, Panama seems to be the favourite destination right now. Apart from the difficulty and cost of setting up such a structure, it in no way reduces the obligation to pay tax. And, contrary to popular opinion, Panamanian banks perform a considerable amount of due diligence on their prospective clients and would certainly need full information on the source of funds which, in turn, would be an immediate paper trail back to the tax man.
However, I'm pretty confident that none of these gyrations will be necessary!
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So much for it only costing $35.
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It is all Cloak & Dagger applied making it look awesome and a fulfilled Con Operandi at its best... but only to those gladly willing to believe all things believable under any scorching sun!
One can also notice, how glum & willing, subscribers are when all it takes are a few "convincingly sounding & appearing" cliches and applying authentic legal formalities to appear genuine but only to a point where excuses then starts rolling out to steer the easy masses that are at best, willing & ready to succumb to any illogical moves and explanations.... which basically are incredulous excuses from day one, making also, a double digit magic offer that is supposedly workable in transforming into a pot of gold overnight.... oh well, make it like some many years of daunting patience with word games...
Thats about it, just word games all along in return for real ca$h, ingenious nonetheless when more than 50,000 and more people are dead willing to become suckers!!!
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Thank you guys. Quite a merciless onslaught that will frighten
off any would be future participant of GPP.
However, many of us are in, for good or bad, better or worse,
for a profit or loss, counting down the days to final closure.
Your combined genius wields a spade to expose hidden ground,
and in good faith, you should teach the rest of us how to dig
in such tangled gardens.
Cheers
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