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    Quote Originally Posted by getfree
    That will be better than uniclear and can you add www.ebullion.com to the payment egold they still mney from there i hade a person stole $400 out of my egold account and there was nothing that egold could do www.ebullion.com is safer than egold just to let you know
    Bryan has already said he will be using E-Bullion...

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    Interesting,

    A 2X10 is better for that very reason, less people in full matrix, and combined with the minimul requirement of three sales to be paid from matrix, it will solve the issue for most about affordability. It is far easier to sell a few lotto tickets than all the other products in the industry, so I think the right components are here to kill attrition. As another stated, the reversing of matrix in a progressive manner can be like a lotto within the lotto. (g)

    In reality, it is like having the winning lotto number, but you don't know the drawing date. (g) As in, we are all in the matrix, so we will all stay qualified, for the fear of loss which is the most powerful motivator of all, so who would want to take a chance and miss matirx reverses each month. It simply keeps the pot stirred, whereby all other straight matrices die from attrition because most will see little for months and drop out. But if they saw a potential of bigger pay day within three months, then they would stay qualified, especially with the easy qualifications here in PIPS LOTTO.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    BUMP...



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    Will you consider implementing OFW's proposed switching method...?

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    Interesting,

    Good question, and believe me, very simple with the advance programming used today. I sent Bryan the overview I had been working on for years adressing all the negatives of typical MLM's and matrices in particular, so who knows, I just appreciate the fact Bryan cares about fairness for all, not just those who try to get in at top. How many hear would be happy with a couple grand a month, with a few surprise $12K months a year? That is the question everyone needs to answer for themselves. A reversing matrix can spread out the earnings to more people, and I personally think that is the answer to stopping attrition, the killer of all programs over time.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    Or, why have any matrix at all?

    If the real reason is just to do good for others, just go out and sell as many lottery tickets as you possibly can each week, and then every month, all members just divy up the proceeds. It's all about the greater good, isn't it?

    So, everyone sets up a website (prototype provided by HA Lottery), then at the end of the month.... Total members / total intact = each members share, less of course any administration fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drgibble
    Or, why have any matrix at all?

    If the real reason is just to do good for others, just go out and sell as many lottery tickets as you possibly can each week, and then every month, all members just divy up the proceeds. It's all about the greater good, isn't it?

    So, everyone sets up a website (prototype provided by HA Lottery), then at the end of the month.... Total members / total intact = each members share, less of course any administration fees.

    Why don't you go back over to talkcrap and make fun of Bryan like you were.Saying he was a god in a very sarcastic way. Don't come here and act all nice and looking out for us and then go over there and rip him . Talk about two faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knst
    Why don't you go back over to talkcrap and make fun of Bryan like you were.Saying he was a god in a very sarcastic way. Don't come here and act all nice and looking out for us and then go over there and rip him . Talk about two faced.
    You are right. This guy survived here too long. I do not understand how come mods did not noticed before.
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    I see the matrix filling nicely by everyone signing on the top link.
    ...but I also see all pick3 and pick4 ticket sales commisions going to the top link.

    I believe Bryan stated that once you have a customer he will remain your customer ...no matter which affiliate site he logs into you get credit for his purchases. As I understand that, It depends on where you first logged in to as to where will go the commision earnings. This means the top link will be getting EVERYONES ticket purchase commisions.

    ...so you don't get credit for any of your friends purchases if you send him to the top lonk !

    Think about who you send where...

    If everyone sign up under the top positions and promotes this way I see a lot of people losing interest in promoting ticket sales due to a lot of lost sales commissions... Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly
    I see the matrix filling nicely by everyone signing on the top link.
    ...but I also see all pick3 and pick4 ticket sales commisions going to the top link.

    I believe Bryan stated that once you have a customer he will remain your customer ...no matter which affiliate site he logs into you get credit for his purchases. As I understand that, It depends on where you first logged in to as to where will go the commision earnings. This means the top link will be getting EVERYONES ticket purchase commisions.

    ...so you don't get credit for any of your friends purchases if you send him to the top lonk !

    Think about who you send where...

    If everyone sign up under the top positions and promotes this way I see a lot of people losing interest in promoting ticket sales due to a lot of lost sales commissions... Hmmm

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    Have now reread the rules of the affiliate program and it states that you do earn commission on the sales of pick 3 and 4 made from your affiliate site. But not from your downline.

    It seems to me that Fly's fear of loosing commission on pick3 and 4 is groundless.
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    Dear knst,

    No, I am not two-faced. From the start, I haven't believed all will get back what they invested/loaned from former programs.

    I do think some will benefit, but not all.

    My comments are based on the overall mindset, when proclaiming what great things the former programs have done.

    Not that it will ever happen, but I'd sure like to see a real chart on how many "members" actually ever made a dime. Sure, some did, but the last "program" ran for about 8 months, with nobody getting anything. Of course, there were new members during those 8 months.

    Nobody ever seems to have comments about that, except "please have patience".

    There's gonna have to be alot more "show" than "say", before this thing takes off again. Ya just can't keeping suggesting profit to people, unless you eventually produce some. Even P.T. Barnum wasn't that good, and he was amoung the best.

    One more thing. You will always know that what I post comes from me. I use the same username everywhere. It's who I am. If I didn't, I'd feel kinda like a two-faced guy hiding behind different usernames.

    The only truths I know is:

    1. I joined an outfit called PIPS, and loaned/invested money with them, based on a rosy picture of getting a 2% per day profit (1.9 after "admin fees).

    2. I watched a number grow on a screen, telling me what my investment was currently worth.

    3. After 9 months, I saw the website where I had invested/loaned money disappear.

    4. To date, I have not heard from the former company called PIPS about when they planned to pay me my principal and interests, only to observe patience.


    These are truths. The rest of what I read, until proven different, is just hyip.

    Sorry to be so blunt, but that's the way it is.


    I don't think this is going against forum rules & procedures, saying exactly what happened. Maybe some do.
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    drgibble;
    DO NOT worry about what these people say about you.......nobody can be more 2 faced than a lot of the people here. When I was out getting banned from other forums defending Bryan I was warmly welcomed here with open arms..............now that I am looking at the whole picture through "open" eyes without blinders on..............I am not so "warmly" welcomed. So it seems to me as though as long as you agree with what these other members think and feel, then you are OK......but if you disagree with anything or think for yourself and have your own opinion..............then you are a "troll"..................Talk about being 2 faced.....LOL.............You cant be anymore 2 faced than that.................so I wouldnt worry about what these people think...............you think for yourself and continue to post how you feel, not how how they want you to feel.


    Quote Originally Posted by drgibble
    Dear knst,

    No, I am not two-faced. From the start, I haven'e believed all will get back what they invested/loaned from former programs.

    I do think some will benefit, but not all.

    My comments are based on the overall mindset, when proclaiming what great things the former programs have done.

    Not that it will ever happen, but I'd sure like to see a real chart on how many "members" actually ever made a dime. Sure, some did, but the last "program" ran for about 8 months, with nobody getting anything. Of course, there were new members during those 8 months.

    Nobody ever seems to have comments about that, except "please have patience".

    There's gonna have to be alot more "show" than "say", before this thing takes off again. Ya just can't keeping suggesting profit to people, unless you eventually produce some. Even P.T. Barnum wasn't that good, and he was amoung the best.

    One more thing. You will always know that what I post comes from me. I use the same username everywhere. It's who I am. If I didn't I'd feel kinda like a two-faced guy hiding behind different usernames.

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