Do Not Signup For Lotto Yet!!!

[second mouse]

we are all waiting to hear.... stay tuned :-)

[drgibble]

It's gonna be real interesting watching who is gonna post objecting against the possibility of scrambling the lottery matrix order.

Bunch of different camps wil be heard from, I guess.

[Mary01]

Very Interesting thread indeed. What about those of us who aren't able to build a matrix and can't get anyone interested? (Maybe I'm unclear on this whole aspect. Please don't dump on me OK?I don't post much nor get here too often.) But if you have no one interested what happens to your own attemps to join, do you get to play or do you have to opt out?
Happy New Year everyone and yes Bryan I'm still hanging in there for you too!
Best wishes to all.

[Shell]

It's gonna be real interesting watching who is gonna post objecting against the possibility of scrambling the lottery matrix order.

Bunch of different camps wil be heard from, I guess.

I have been struggling with a matrix-idea which is fairly fair, but I haven't got the programming skill or time to test it. I know how it looks on paper, but that isn't easy to show on the monitor. I have used very big peaces of paper and drawn the whole matrix up on it............looks ok, but it would need to go into a computer.

[lightrayspips]

So where do people go to signup Lotto Matrix Program then?

[second mouse]

please see posts #41 & 42

[queenofhearts]

Sounds great to me too. It would be a real community thing,
where not only the strong (best marketers, first to join) would win
and benefit from this in all months ahead.
It would for sure create a strong and lasting program and
it would be far more easier to recruit, simply because the ever
existing question: Are the ones at the top of the matrix the big
winners every month....could be answered with a strong and
honest... NO !
Fingers crossed for this solution. I have myself worked in several
forced matrices during the years, and none lasted that long really because of
envy, loss of interest from members at the bottom of the matrix etc.
Something fresh and vivid would be welcome here for sure !!

-queenofhearts-

[paddyfield]

We had a programme running on the net for a couple of years. We fed our members into dynamics4success with a triad position which took care of their sponsorship requirements for that programme. In fact I think we were the largest supplier of new members to D4S at that time. We never had any kind of a matrix either.
However, and I must agree, our programme was, in members opinion, a bit slow, so we devised a forced matrix system with a monthly subscription to provide both a monthly income to the member and still maintain the feed into D4S.
The company commissions received back from D4S were to be used as a buffer, so that the last leg of the matrix sat on this buffer, thus no one was without a monthly income.
To be truly forced, everyone signed up from and advertised the company page so that all efforts to bring in new recruits benefited the whole membership.
We also split the growing matrix into smaller segments covering two commission levels, ramdomly shuffled an order of placement and a 6 monthly cycle with an x factor thrown in for growth.
We never got the chance to test it properly. The day we launched the new website, springpay went down and took almost all funds prepaid into the new programme. Not long afterwards D4S took a change in direction and that finished us off completely.
It is no easy matter to play around with matrix structures. Referring back to the clone days, you only received 6 of those each month, a small fraction of all the possibilities that mathematics throw up, and chance played a part if you landed with a top position. It was never by design, only time would have brought those top rewards, but we never got that far, did we.
Happy New Year all
paddy

[readytogo]

I think a scrammbling or shaking of the matrix would be great as long as it works. I'm no mathmetician by any means, but I think it will work! Mike, I think you have truly excited and inspired other pipsters and hopefully Bryan is feeling it too!

[Offshore-Wealth.com]

Wow! A few hours ago I made a slightly tongue in cheek suggestion and now look what has happened!

It turns out that Mike (Offshore Wealth) has done some homework on this before and also sees shaking up the matrix as the way to kill the attrition problem that besets all MLMs.

I have also noticed that Bryan has said he would like to see Mikes workings on the subject. Of course we all remember that the GW model did not work in the end but perhaps that experience will now prove to be useful? Perhaps a system with some certainty of an improved position once or twice a year PLUS a random chance of a "jackpot" position might be an idea? We all like an outsider to win sometimes don't we?

Michael

Interesting,

I didn't think there would be this much positive feedback, but thanks for all the PM's and comments. Many who have been around know about the issues of attrition, but many might not realize the importance unless you built a few large organizations only to hit the wall, as I call it, and this usually is at the 18 month point for most good programs with a fair compensation plan. It is unavoidable due to attrition, so eliminate attrition and you eliminate the wall.

For those who remember the clone, this was a step in the right direction, but as you remember, the nut per month kept escalating, and many could not afford it, especailly when only a few were earning money. In addition, you cannot have absolutes, as in defined quanitity in each matrix as this allowed some to grab several top positions by simply knowing the break points when one matrix was filled, and another began. Some may remember a few who had multiple top positions by registering a dozen times at break points, then dropping the loser positions, and activating the winners. I remember one person, I won't name, but he had a half dozen top positions, so this was abuse and certainly not fair to everyone else.

Sadly, there will always be some who are greedy and calculating, but there are easy safe guards which can stop this. As some suggested, what about the people in the middle on matrix? Yes, this would be an issue with a set reverse, but you can use a sliding percentage reverse point just as easily, so it would change as organization grows, always changing, one or two level progressive shift as example. Simply put, this would solve the issue and make it fair, as well as more exciting wondering when your surprise check of $12K shows up, but in the mean time, who would complain over a couple thousand a month which is very real if we all register from the top position to start.

Again, just a suggestion, and one that can be set up later just as easy as from start. The idea of presenting true hope that they will succeed is enough to eliminate attrition, and because ticket costs are not a hug financial burden as it was with clone costs, it will be easy for people to make their commitments of three sales, or whatever it is set at. The goal is to fill a complete matrix with no holes, so everyone registers from top postion only. Most of the time people will want to register others under themselves, but this only benefits them very little, and hurts them in the long run as it moves everyone down the matrix which prevents spillover incentive we all hear about, but rarely see.

A perfect example to illustrate this is if you were on 5th level, and if you signed up a person, they would be on the 6th, but your first level and when they signed someone up, now they go on 7th level, your second. Since there are hundreds needed to fill the 6th, and a couple thousand to fill seventh in a 3X7, it would take a long time depending where in the overall matrix you were positioned to earn more than a couple bucks, so unless you present an opportunity to see larger profits more quickly, attrition will be problem. If everyone filled in left to right top to bottom, then technically, the person you introduce will be in same level as you, a much more fair strategy and it would leave no holes in matrix which is major problem with all standard matrices.

Once a matrix is filled solid, this is when you reverse, but using a percentage formula which is progressive, so it is sort of like cutting the deck of cards, and the surprise element would provide far more motivation to stay in program and purchase their tickets weekly. Fear of loss is one of the most powerful of all motivators, so attrition is eliminated and growth will contunue which perpetuates based on self motivation people will have. The worse thing is when a person joins and sees no results for several weeks, what do they do, they quit. But having this simple system in place, they would never drop out knowing their turn at top or near top was coming soon, even if it was a couple months, or longer, who would drop their position? It is the incentive that no other program offers, and with weekly draws, combined with potential winning of lotto, I think it would offer a real positive growth rate.

Happy New Year to All, Mike