Thread: For the 10by5 Conspiracy theorists

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Thank you Marek. You made a right thing. After Pips I was happy with HAlotto. I invested a lot of both work and money in HA. And suddenly it disappeared with a complete silence. And now I learned BM has been running several new programs on different names a couple of months time. Is this the right way to treat people who has been showing their trust and help to him? No way! I am very much disappointed. Not angry just disappointed!
Ville

I'm not totally condemming BM until the BNM investigation is over. As I said, I do understand why he did what he did (although I don't really condone it).

But why are people attacking the person who is telling the truth, over the person who told the lies?

This makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by nej

I'm not totally condemming BM until the BNM investigation is over. As I said, I do understand why he did what he did (although I don't really condone it).

But why are people attacking the person who is telling the truth, over the person who told the lies?

This makes no sense to me.

Thats VERY true indeed...

NO one should be condemning BM for what he tried and did... he did as he should...like a man clutching straw... and yet, I won't compare it to the case of one caught and surrounded by waters....

BM as I know, has the goodness in him and is driven by a conviction he only knows...where the other end is... and that is his right and we should respect that from him.

The fact that he also did what most of you would consider as LIES... thats a matter of interpretation.

Although the damage of his part is felt and is still trickling through to many more, his actions is his right to defend and not for us to continue or even proceed any further in pursuit of wanting to hear, know, see the truth... what came about as the consequence of what took place more than a year back...has evolved from what is possible, manageable and delivering as agreed or expected....those were the issues that caused the consequences and it all stems from various aspects that led to this current day.

Bryan is not alone on this...and deserves no condemnation...he is a fellow human who did what his vision guided him to... and we have and will respect him among us, for trying to manifest that light of hope....

No one esp. ROLClub and the membership should condemn him...we forgive him to a point where compassion is but he has to face the consequences nonetheless for the events that are linked to the BN investigations and the halt of PIPS as a whole, temporary or otherwise... I personally view it as a case against the setup...the founder is only a branch of it and we should NOT be demanding answers from that lone branch alone!

I don't in light of the circumstances now or has been since after Hawaii... I don't expect Bryan to take the tab, I'll take the tab when I buy him the next round of his favourite Jameson, he is still a buddy by the bar... for that I am for ... despite the loss, one can still get over it, some may NEVER, but I can and I know most of you in your hearts...can also!


The truth hurts...it is an integral source of the human suffering but it also rejoices when compassion is aired and delivered... abeer is a good beginning...


Cheers to the RC CARE Group....

I do not believe what I see here. Guys still defending that lying SOB.
BM betrayed us all. I appaud you admin for doing what you did. A man has got to do what a man's got to do. Great guy.
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Originally Posted by flmnco

I do not believe what I see here. Guys still defending that lying SOB.
BM betrayed us all. I appaud you admin for doing what you did. A man has got to do what a man's got to do. Great guy.
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DITTO!!

MY old Grandpaw,rest his soul,told me a long time ago....a fool and his money are soon parted.....i pity those who after all this,still,refuse to open their eyes and see what Bryan is.....as i stated a long time ago...some here on this forum would be surprised by the ending....and some not even be able to accept it...thank you Marek for exposing Bryan for what he really is....IMHO...Pat

Correct Yogi.

I believe BM was acting more out of desperation than a deliberate attempt to deceive people. He knew if he launched 10x5 under his own name it would be torn apart by those who wish to destroy him.

Ethically, however, he has made a mistake here and I don't think he was right to deceive. It seems to be obtaining money by deception and that's probably illegal. I also do not think he was right with his criticisms of Marek and the way he handled the situation.

But I do not think his entire character can be judged by these acts. It is when BNM return with their answer that we will know the real story. I will sit on the fence until that time as I like to have proper proof either way.

I thank Marek for standing up as a man and for plainly giving a fact that was appropriate to give. Bryan has no basis for his character assassination of Marek. Could he be so naive to think that the BNM or such investigative branches interested in him such as the F.B.I. couldn't do a simple IP check? No, he is not that naive; he simply chose to attack Marek in order to fleece himself, to distract his base of followers away from the context of his own behavior. This is, indeed, a severe character flaw where Bryan is concerned; but, in contrast, Marek stood as a man, character intact and ethically sound. Bryan's morals in this behavior are repugnant: he attacks the one man who, specifically, has consistently and faithfully served the Pips population since the demise of the Pip's forum. Bryan pitched a fit like a little childish punk and his display was nauseating. I know you have taken a low hit on this Marek, but you are not alone; your friends stand with you.

thelema

Originally Posted by Thelema

I thank Marek for standing up as a man and for plainly giving a fact that was appropriate to give. Bryan has no basis for his character assassination of Marek. Could he be so naive to think that the BNM or such investigative branches interested in him such as the F.B.I. couldn't do a simple IP check? No, he is not that naive; he simply chose to attack Marek in order to fleece himself, to distract his base of followers away from the context of his own behavior. This is, indeed, a severe character flaw where Bryan is concerned; but, in contrast, Marek stood as a man, character intact and ethically sound. Bryan's morals in this behavior are repugnant: he attacks the one man who, specifically, has consistently and faithfully served the Pips population since the demise of the Pip's forum. Bryan pitched a fit like a little childish punk and his display was nauseating. I know you have taken a low hit on this Marek, but you are not alone; your friends stand with you.

thelema

Well said, and I agree with you my friend.

I have sat on the PIPS fence for some time, taking neither side and never commenting, but it is time to decide.

Bryan has been caught with his pants down this time, there is no denying it, and what little credibility he had has now vanished faster than HA Lotto did.

Respect to Marek for having the decency to inform the membership, it is however up to the members to make their own minds up.