Thread: For the 10by5 Conspiracy theorists

As long as people look at things with their emotions and respond accordingly, there will always be discontent and anger. When we speak in anger, you know where that leads us. The response of some in this forum is evidence of this.

However, it is important not to re-act as many do. That is not helping the situation any at all either. We need to act, not re-act. Reaction is based on emotion, while action is based on evaluation, thought and consideration. A sober mind is one that balances things to weigh and evaluate both sides.

Is there proof? What proof is there? Is it fact? What effect does this have? Is anyone hurt or treated unfairly? Let's state it and defend. Is anyone accused rightly? Let us be fair and give them a chance to recant or apologize, accepting the consequences of their act. Is that not forthcoming, then let them know we cannot help, and they may stand accused. But we need to move on.

peterben

Hey All

Well it is final. Bryan M. was indeed Barry. Here Bryan admits it.



Last Post from BM!!

http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...t-post-bm.html

If the cycler is a legitimate business,how can it be shut down?

Perhaps HA and the cycler would have been better left until after the investigation by BNM had finished.Even with the best of intent,to pose as somebody else cannot be regarded as healthy business practise.Especially where taking money is concerned.

Ray Marek had a hard time with all this,but he had an obligation to advise members that their funds were with a programme run by Bryan.

Not an easy choice,what you have done?

Originally Posted by Trapper t

So, I am a little confused. So if Bryan is running the 10/5 and for investigative reasons could not divulge his id can anyone think maybe he was doing this for a reason? maybe to help the needy or maybe to do some more good in the world while his hands where tied with the pips investigation?
Well for me i don't no, but now with all the different hypis going down, SI for one I am having a hard time with it all.
So is Bryan giving up on pips or what? from my perspective it looks like if the 10/5 goes down then pips is gone for good?
Am I reading into this wrong? As much as Bryan has been hit with all the negative why would he care what Merik is doing. I think he was just trying to get to the bottom of the whole thing for us nothing more nothing less.
Just would like to no what to think of all this.
Would like to have some good input on the whole think less all the bashing

Yes, at least that's how I see it too...

So... btw... Mike... please understand that your descriptions of Bryan (nothing but a scum, a lieing dirtbag, stealing money,...) from another point of view, and which should still be respected untill imo at least BNM has finished it's investigation (if you give them that chance), are plain, hard insults... in a tone that i rather expect at talkgold then here... and in the current tension and emotional heating, from someone in your position i find pretty irresponsible... so please mind your wordings, thank you.

Just the same here...

Originally Posted by luckydog

The stupidity of Merek and his pals Yogi, TG Brian and Mike amazes me.
They have had their own agenda all along.
ROLCLUB membership is disappearing as it is.

No one with any real Pips knowledge will ever post it here again.

Just like Bryan deserves the benefit of the doubt, also Marek & C° should be given credit... and although I personally might not have done what has happened now... no need to have a hidden agenda here... as long as this world is given shape by people's mistakes on 'both sides'... and the fat lady hasn't sung yet... please be careful with your conclusions as well.

Rest assured I'm probably just as moved-hurt-out-of-balance by what's happening right now as most of you. But these kind of postings make it only WORSE and create more DAMAGE.

Maybe we should all give this a rest for a while...
take a break, cool down.
And if not... at least try to show how we expect the others to behave in the way we write our own posts...

Thank you,
Hasse

If pips survives, these moments will be the ones where it has been closer to fall than ever.
But I agree, peterben... and dreamer... not an easy time for nobody i think.
Take care,
Hasse

Well said Mike, I agree with you 100%

Originally Posted by Mike

Enough of treating Bryan like a saint. I think Marek did THE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THING.

Assumptions? This is no assumption. THIS IS A FACT. THIS IS SOLID PROOF.

He wasnt trying to link bryan to the cycle, its a fact that barry james = bryan marsden. It's facts right there. If you can't believe facts given there with solid proof, then I have no more to say to you.

The only one who should apolgize is BM for lieing to us once again and for frauding us with halotto. Bryan does deserve much more than this and he did NOTHING for us. If I saw him, I'd knock him out.

Mike

As long as people look at things with their emotions and respond accordingly, there will always be discontent and anger. When we speak in anger, you know where that leads us. The response of some in this forum is evidence of this.

However, it is important not to react to them as many do. That is not helping the situation any at all either. We need to act, not re-act. Reaction is based on emotion, while action is based on evaluation, thought and consideration, before going into action. A sober mind is one that balances things to weigh and evaluate both sides.

Is there proof? What proof is there? Is it fact? What effect does this have? Is anyone hurt or treated unfairly? Let's state it and defend. Is anyone accused rightly? Let us be fair and give them a chance to recant or apologize, accepting the consequences of their act. Is that not forthcoming, then let them know we cannot help, and they may stand accused. But we need to move on.

peterben

Right on, Peter... although it's hard to just ignore it... I can try :).
Take care,
Hasse

PB, you need to read this:
http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...t-post-bm.html

Originally Posted by peterben

As long as people look at things with their emotions and respond accordingly, there will always be discontent and anger. When we speak in anger, you know where that leads us. The response of some in this forum is evidence of this.

However, it is important not to react to them as many do. That is not helping the situation any at all either. We need to act, not re-act. Reaction is based on emotion, while action is based on evaluation, thought and consideration, before going into action. A sober mind is one that balances things to weigh and evaluate both sides.

Is there proof? What proof is there? Is it fact? What effect does this have? Is anyone hurt or treated unfairly? Let's state it and defend. Is anyone accused rightly? Let us be fair and give them a chance to recant or apologize, accepting the consequences of their act. Is that not forthcoming, then let them know we cannot help, and they may stand accused. But we need to move on.

peterben

Bryan Marsden has confirmed the story is true.