Thread: Why PIPS will return

Originally Posted by Caroline

God bless you, PrimeOne!

And thank you for your words of wisdom!

Letting go of a fixation, whether it's about PIPS returning or your dislike of your daughter's boyfriend, or getting a job, or anything really, is sometimes exactly what's needed in order to have some good and dynamic energy flow into the situation. I have had this demonstrated to me more than once. The trick is really letting go....knowing that it's okay..
you won't be punished for letting go! Sometimes it's hard..we feel that if we don't hold onto tightly, then somehow we aren't being responsible. But that's not really the truth. We really need to let go.

Well, I'm preaching to myself right now since I've got my own money problems, but will try now to go put it into practice...once more.

Caroline

Caroline, these are inspiring words which can be applied to many varied situations.

Thanks for making me think. (It had to happen some time)

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

I am guilty, NB, of not listening........in my hubris, I thought to help, not heeding the requests made of us members. That is something only I can answer for. Yes, it may have helped some, but it may have caused collateral damage as well. For that, I have regrets, but only of the method. I plead guilty as charged.

I cannot speak for the Admin or Mod's and what they do, as I am not one of them, nor am I in any way affiliated with ROLClub, other than as a member. I have made no public or official requests for the locking of any thread or moving of any information. It was not my doing, not my decision.

As for your last post, I believe caution is in order, as your chastisement should be personal as well. I see nothing offensive or foolish in Persephone's post.

Silence, friends, peace and rest. We ALL need it.

Arcturus

Arcturus1,

The intent of my post was not to charge you with any wrongdoing and make you plead guilty to anything. I enjoyed the "humble threads" and I am sad to see that they have been locked. I believe that I, and many other members, learned a lot or remembered why they joined PIPS due to the many postings, particularily from you.

I am not as eloquent as some people who post and what I try to say does not always come across as I intend it to. For that, I will plead guilty.

I was trying to get an answer to the following posted by Yogi:

"This show has ended and I will close this thrread after a short consultation with Arc a few minutes ago...I shall respect his humble departure on this subject."

No disrespect was intended and I hope none was taken. I do hope that you do not leave this forum and continue to post your words of wisdom.

Respectfully yours,
njbth

Okay. Not much point in continuing this thread. Seems that some are determined to make it about themselves, for reasons that are evident, or turn it into a “will return vs. will not” or “good vs. evil” debate. All I was asking for was a respectful “will return, because…” elaboration or discussion, without personal recriminations.

I appreciate the “reasons” already given, and will take them under advisement, as well as the sentiment that enough is enough already. Letting go of fixation, going within to greet the “other” sun and create a brighter “reality” is also great advice. Thank you for pointing that out, Primeone and Caroline, if you will forgive my paraphrasing.

Please return to calm waters and go in peace.

Originally Posted by SoulSurfer

Okay. Not much point in continuing this thread. Seems that some are determined to make it about themselves, for reasons that are evident, or turn it into a “will return vs. will not” or “good vs. evil” debate. All I was asking for was a respectful “will return, because…” elaboration or discussion, without personal recriminations.

I appreciate the “reasons” already given, and will take them under advisement, as well as the sentiment that enough is enough already. Letting go of fixation, going within to greet the “other” sun and create a brighter “reality” is also great advice. Thank you for pointing that out, Primeone and Caroline, if you will forgive my paraphrasing.

Please return to calm waters and go in peace.

What does it matter to you, how folks think? If the members of this forum have an internal belief, why do you feel the need to press on?

It seems you have a hidden agenda.. Searching for more data are you?

4D

Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

Originally Posted by Happy Guy

Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

No Wonder you're a "Happy Guy" ! You're absolutely RIGHT !
Mike SHADES ON !

A good call ! HAPPY GUY ![B][/B]

Originally Posted by Happy Guy

Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

Though i do not have much knowledge in this field but your post was a very good one. Hope Everything will work out for BM and he will bring PIPS back at the time of Xmas.

Originally Posted by Happy Guy

Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU.
An Excellent View.

pinetree

Just for the record Happy Guy its not a year yet.Pips was closed in August 2005.The 16th I think.