Thread: Please BM post something positive

Originally Posted by fleetwood

If we do not get what is pending ! Then you know
that what they have been saying in TG Forum is correct !

I would never think that anything said in TG Forum is correct. In fact there are others before me who used more colorful allusions to what is posted there. I think I know how you feel, the guilt, the despair and the frustration and that sick feeling in your stomach. Especially now there's no word from BM, who can blame you. But don't take what is said in TG seriously, its not healthy to worry over nothing.

I know I speak for everyone when I say everyone here is hoping for a quick resolution but it ain't happening yet. Good or bad we don't know and certainly those people at TG don't know. I look in my paper everyday and surf the web for something for BM or PIPS. Even the BNM website on PIPS states its still under investigation. Let's look on the brightside for now, that's the only side that has less health related problems to it.

As a person once told me, when you've done all you can the rest you leave to god. Well, I think I've done all I can.


theBat$

I always said regular and timely communication with members, investors etc is ABSOLUTE MUST! Look at others, some DDOS attack, some short maintenance mode but they send updates every few hours or every few days.
If you don't want panic, rumours, speculations you must be in touch with members and your investors!!!
More I think it's matter of personal culture and integrity. Even if nothing new you have to say, be in touch with your members because they want to know they are not left alone in darkness. I said it many times, evern for this reason I was banned! Yes, I will repeat: Bryan lesson not learned!!!

Adron , I will have to agree with you , Communication is not
one of Mr. Marsden,s greatest virties !

Communications, you kid me right? Seriously I have been one of the most
outspoken members on just that issue. Each time communications is talked
about people want you to crawl back into your box. Its just unreal the way
members are treated by Bryan as well as other members on this forum.

Beleive me I know that if Bryan, doesn't want to communicate he will not. In
my humble view that is one if not the main reason the program ran into the
current problems. (Lack of Communication)

Some will say,"due to the investigation there can be no communicaitons on
PIPS" Did it ever occur to anyone communications can be just a short two
week or once monthly posting say Hi Guys and Ladies I'm still here waiting
just like you. It doesn't have to say anything about PIPs, I think we are
all capable of understanding that somethings cannot be talked about.

Give everyone and anyone the respect That you want its a two way street.

Originally Posted by srair71

Communications, you kid me right? Seriously I have been one of the most
outspoken members on just that issue. Each time communications is talked
about people want you to crawl back into your box. Its just unreal the way
members are treated by Bryan as well as other members on this forum.

Beleive me I know that if Bryan, doesn't want to communicate he will not. In
my humble view that is one if not the main reason the program ran into the
current problems. (Lack of Communication)

Some will say,"due to the investigation there can be no communicaitons on
PIPS" Did it ever occur to anyone communications can be just a short two
week or once monthly posting say Hi Guys and Ladies I'm still here waiting
just like you. It doesn't have to say anything about PIPs, I think we are
all capable of understanding that somethings cannot be talked about.

Give everyone and anyone the respect That you want its a two way street.

You are talking about respect....I say HA...

Bryan Communicated A LOT when on tour both to the attendents everywhere he went AND in the PIPSForum ...when on tour....

He STOPPED communicating when he realized that his most TRUSTED employess had turn that back on him...and in fact had BETRAYED him...

and...what CEO wouldn't...???!!!

and then in NO TIME the BNM moved in an confiscated all business related data available at the office...including the servers...

Just put YOURSELF into that position...
and tell US what YOU had done..

Here's a MAN with a VISION...he had helped a whole membership out of a failing program...put there by someone else...he created an UNHEARD of PGM that IN FACT delivered...UNTIL some Low Life CREEP wit REVENGE as the driving force had decided to DESTROY this pgm together with its Creator...

SO...DIRECT your WHINING to the CORRECT CAUSE of all this Mess...

Get the FACTS straight before you open your MOUTH again...

Largo

I agree with you Largo, but we need to be nice. We give them too much credit and control when we get angry with them. We need to state our positions and not let them have run of the forum but we need to be the "bigger" persons by keeping our heads when doing it.

Everwiser

Originally Posted by Largo

You are talking about respect....I say HA...

Bryan Communicated A LOT when on tour both to the attendents everywhere he went AND in the PIPSForum ...when on tour....

He STOPPED communicating when he realized that his most TRUSTED employess had turn that back on him...and in fact had BETRAYED him...

and...what CEO wouldn't...???!!!

and then in NO TIME the BNM moved in an confiscated all business related data available at the office...including the servers...

Just put YOURSELF into that position...
and tell US what YOU had done..

Here's a MAN with a VISION...he had helped a whole membership out of a failing program...put there by someone else...he created an UNHEARD of PGM that IN FACT delivered...UNTIL some Low Life CREEP wit REVENGE as the driving force had decided to DESTROY this pgm together with its Creator...

SO...DIRECT your WHINING to the CORRECT CAUSE of all this Mess...

Get the FACTS straight before you open your MOUTH again...

Largo

Originally Posted by Largo

You are talking about respect....I say HA...

Bryan Communicated A LOT when on tour both to the attendents everywhere he went AND in the PIPSForum ...when on tour....

He STOPPED communicating when he realized that his most TRUSTED employess had turn that back on him...and in fact had BETRAYED him...

and...what CEO wouldn't...???!!!

and then in NO TIME the BNM moved in an confiscated all business related data available at the office...including the servers...

Just put YOURSELF into that position...
and tell US what YOU had done..

Here's a MAN with a VISION...he had helped a whole membership out of a failing program...put there by someone else...he created an UNHEARD of PGM that IN FACT delivered...UNTIL some Low Life CREEP wit REVENGE as the driving force had decided to DESTROY this pgm together with its Creator...

SO...DIRECT your WHINING to the CORRECT CAUSE of all this Mess...

Get the FACTS straight before you open your MOUTH again...

Largo

I am referring to the post from srair and your response!

...and I find your response very rude and uncalled for.
I was in pureinvestor long time before PIPS was born, and I can tell you that you have not got your time-line correct with regard to Bryan's lack of communications!

the truth

Srair71
I say there are two ways of looking at that this communication thing, or lack of, as you say.
1. Regular Hello, nothing new to report, goodbye.
2. Put out a statement that you’re no longer going to be discussing the PIPS situation until such time there is something new to report.

In the case of #1, do you really believe this would do the job? I do not and I’m certain that after a short while the usual crowd would start with ‘Same old, same old’ and pointing out to everyone that all we get is the same old nothing. They would still be calling for Bryan to give us actual information.

In the case of #2, the better one in my opinion because most people I think prefer significant information, preferably factual and not; I’m fine and the roses are in full bloom, type of chat.
Also, lets not forget that as Chief Executive Officer of a business corporation currently under the control of an official government agency conducting a major, in depth investigation of the corporations business practices resulting from serious allegations and questions of fraud from certain sources, that Bryan is in somewhat of a delicate position. Add to that he is likely restricted by law in what he may publicly reveal about the situation at this time and I think it’s fair to say he is in a damned if he does and damned if doesn’t spot. I’m sure most of the members would agree that keeping quiet and being damned by some of the members for doing so is far preferable to revealing significant details and risk screwing everything up and probably causing the CEO to be in breach of the law.
I do agree with you though that overall the communication from the company in regards to various events and problems it encountered could have been handled better. I also believe that failing is at least partly responsible for the enemies of PIPS to have essentially a free reign in creating dissention within the membership at a time when it needed to be strong and united. However, that is an opinion based on looking in from the outside. Perhaps one would see entirely different picture standing in Bryans’ shoes.

Bryan is an exceptional human being but like all of us he’s not perfect. When the timing is right he’ll reveal everything to us and I have no doubt he will also admit to having made some errors of judgment. One thing I am confident of is that when the new version of PIPS is eventually allowed to fly – Yes I believe it will happen – it will be much improved. In many ways we have all gone through the school of hard knocks with this but we’ll all be the wiser and stronger because of it!

Very good points, Chester. Too many continue to look in "hindsight" and pass "present" judgement. Hindsight is always "clear" (20/20 vision); making decisions in the moment will never be clear and sure. Only history will judge the decisions made and the final outcome. Who are we to interfere with history?

Everwiser

I don't agree with how BM is running everything, it's quite absurd. He should ATLEAST post a message or some type of communication. It is only right that he do so...


This is mainly directed towards Halotto and maybe even towards PIPS.

Do you guys hoenstly think it takes this long to get a better host and get the site up ? NO.

If a site is visited a lot, has lot of members, is important, etc. (such as halotto), it would take a day or two AT MAX to get the site up again. There is NO WAY it can take the time its taking right now. I am a programmar, so I know this.


As for PIPS, those that are justifying BM because he got "betrayed "or whatever, does that make it right for him to ignore all the other investors and not even make one comment or drop-by? Does 2 wrongs make a right? It is his RESPONSIBILITY atleast to drop-by and FULFILL the trust that his investors put in him..


Mike