Thread: BM's Update And How It Applies!!!

Originally Posted by galadriel

Who DaMan,

Speak for yourself!!!


I had a list of people whom I wanted to help when I did well myself, That should and would have been one of the joys of PIPS,the giving to others less well off, it made me feel very good at the time, but that was a while ago when I like many was dreaming about all those whom I could help.

I was not looking for jewels, furs, fast cars etc but maybe helping our local hospice, buying a holiday home for underpriviligeded kids and teachng them to ride horses and have animals and along the way Iwould have had a better purpose in life I like many of us do not have the funds to pay for charitiable projects but had PIPS paid off then we would have.

So don't accuse me and others of being greedy if you don't mind. I have met many British members who are very altruistic ,PIPS Uk has six charities that are supported by the funding and have done loads to help others so stop talking such unmitigated tripe.

I am sick of those in denial always flaming the others who just want answers to reasonable questions. Those who read my posts know that I am always very reasonable with my language and thoughts but this posting has really angered me because it simply is not true of the folk whom I have met in the UK.

Galadriel

hahaha, yeah ok sure there. I don't know about you, but I didnt see your name in my post or do you think that from me saying there will always be greedy people in the world, that it attributes to you and your little group of people who are running charities. And those sick in denial of WHAT? I could care less if you get angry, I didnt direct it at you or your group. You know, a little here and there to charity helps. Not waiting for large lump sums to do all those things. Most people always say and dream of doing what you said, but the thing is they always wait on someone else to help them achieve their dream or goal and usually it doesnt happen and they keep postponing what they plan to do and its because something else or someone else didnt make THEIR dream come true. Your intentions are good, but I never directed the post at you, so dont try to claim that i did, unless you're in denial and fit what I said about greedy people.

Originally Posted by paradise_regained

Originally Posted by WhoDaMan

Well there will always be selfish greedy people in the world. Alot of them were attracted to pips because of what it would do for them. Sad to see that with the money they would just spend all of it probably on meaningless items that would just make them feel rich for that moment. The second the money stream is cut off they ***** like a girl on her period. Thats why most of the lotto winners end up broke after awhile. Most dont have a damn clue how money works or how to handle it. They just know how to spend as much as they get and thats why there's always people working for others making others rich. Rich stay rich, poor stay poor. To bad huh, don't try to pretend to be rich because you gotta earn it, not let someone else earn that success for you. Most of the people who have recieved their money back, and are just *****ing just because they cant live the lifestyle that someone else was earning for them, dont deserve it at all. I can atleast understand some of the people who've not gotten what they put in. I don't know why some people even leveraged their house, or took out loans for this. I guess greed is the greatest sin.

I joined PIPS after watching it for six months through the PIPS forum. I joined because I was led to believe by the postings on the forum and the information on the website, that I would get 2% per trading day returned to me, if I was prepared to loan PIPS some money.

As far as I was concerned that was a deal between me and PIPS. I have honored my part of the deal by loaning PIPS my money. PIPS have failed to deliver on their side of the bargain, so far.

It is not a case of greed. It was purely a case of economics that made me loan PIPS the money. Just like with the high street banks, I will place my money with the bank that provides the highest return.

If the banks can't or won't repay me my money, then I have a legitimate right to be told why - truthfully, what is being done to correct the problem and when I can expect the problem to be resolved. The same applies here, with PIPS.

What people spend their money on, is entirely their own business. It may be frivolous "meaningless items" to the likes of you, but the money spent provides profit, which pays someones wages, which puts food on the table for a family.

So please don't try and stand on the moral high ground and feed me with a load of claptrap about greed. It doesn't wash because it doesn't apply.

6 months of watching and you thought there was a guarantee? I'd have thought you would have picked up on more things during that 6 months. A case of economics? ok..... how so? Kinda seems like you don't know much on the financial sector. I don't care what people spend their money on, I was simply stating that a high number of people joining pips, joined out of greed. Its common sense. People leverage larger amounts to get more because putting in what they can afford will only give alittle bit. Since they want the most for doing the least, they will try to leverage because they believed that they will recieve so much after this period of time, than after their loan is done, its just large amounts of cash for them. Feed you with a load of claptrap? ha, more like reality.

Originally Posted by WhoDaMan

6 months of watching and you thought there was a guarantee?

You haven't comprehended what you've read as I made no mention of guarantees. You are fantasising, significantly weakening your "reality" claim.

Some people are smarter than other

Dear ace888,
Thank you for your post. I would advise you to ignore those who have apparently already written PIPS off. I, for one, have not, and will not. I have been in this for almost two years now (from inception) and I have observed Bryan and crew through some very heavy waters. They have ALWAYS come through with flying colors. I am sure if they cannot do it this time it will NOT be their fault. Bryan has said repeatedly that there are many factors in the pie and he has to work through all of them to get to his goal-a secure financial future for all of us.
Also, I wanted to point out something. There is the power of agreement. It is a spiritual term from the Bible, but works very well in the temporal and business world. Jesus said, "If two or three are gathered together in My name believing, it shall be done." A friend and I just yesterday applied this principle when agreeing for the success of PIPs and we adamantly believe that our prayers will be heard and answered.
If you are not a Christian believer, this will still work for you by agreeing together that something will be. It's a principle, not a religion.

Thanks again.

HURRAH FOR BRYAN!!

hzchoice

You have a good heart there Hzchoice and it is already rewarded by your faith and strong belief, I share & relate your convictions too... :D

YB.

Originally Posted by paradise_regained

Originally Posted by WhoDaMan

6 months of watching and you thought there was a guarantee?

You haven't comprehended what you've read as I made no mention of guarantees. You are fantasising, significantly weakening your "reality" claim.

Maybe you haven't even comprehended what you've wrote. You don't need to mention the guarantees in word in what you wrote. Fantasizing about what? You seem to be in some wacko reality where you try to come off as somewhat intelligent. No offense.

Originally Posted by WhoDaMan

Originally Posted by paradise_regained

Originally Posted by WhoDaMan

6 months of watching and you thought there was a guarantee?

You haven't comprehended what you've read as I made no mention of guarantees. You are fantasising, significantly weakening your "reality" claim.

Maybe you haven't even comprehended what you've wrote. You don't need to mention the guarantees in word in what you wrote. Fantasizing about what? You seem to be in some wacko reality where you try to come off as somewhat intelligent. No offense.

Fantasising that I was expecting guarantees. I wasn't and that is still the case, so please, read it as it is written.

If no offense is meant, writing it in the first place is unintelligent.

Come on guys, calm down.

We are all getting a little edgy, and it is not helped by having no communication from BM or his team.

I am from the UK and joined for the same reason as many of you - I need a hand with my financial security having been forced to take early ill health retirement from work, and the thought of having to rely on the Government for support fills me with horror.

I have invested in a number of things, P*Ps being just one, but I did think that this would be the honest program as it seemed to have 000's of good, honest members working together as a team to generate an income for whatever the motive.

However, over the last six months, this program, like so many in the past, has shown very clear indications of going bad on its members. The problem is this turn of events is not helped by the sudden disappearance of the CEO and the many rumours that seem to abound.

Whatever you think and hope for, the only real truth that we have is that nobody has been paid any significant amount for over 6 months now, and those of us who withdrew funds from P*PIS into P*ICPAY, thus losing all future interest and no longer being a part of any loan, are still not receiving their interest payments, inspite of our loan being accepted by P*PS, and payment being made to us for the benefit of it.

All we can do is sit and wait - Sending abuse across the forum is certainly not helpful and will not persuade BM to change his attitude towards us.

So come on, wash your hands, and let's start again.

Peter

From what I have seen recently everyone wants to hold Bryan to it if he says he is hoping for good news by the end of the week. I even saw a "countdown" going on somewhere arguing about the number of hours until the end of the week for crying out loud!

Maybe he had a promise from someone that they would let him have some good news by the end of the week and in the end they needed a bit more time? There is as they say "many a slip 'twixt cup and lip!"

All I know is that Bryan is no quitter and he will overcome all the problems that have been thrown in his way by the Banks who have to comply with all sorts of new legislation as a result of terrorism, money laundering and other International crime.

From what I have heard some of these compliance regulations are not even that well understood by the Banks themselves so small wonder if they take a cautious view on something as radical as Pips especially when the volumes are so big.

After all they don't need the fees for doing the transfers, but equally they don't need their knuckles rapped for non-compliance either.

There are some new faces in the office now and I suspect that some have the task of correcting errors that may have been made in the past and this may involve rolling back to a point where it was all "clean" beyond doubt, a bit like doing a Windows System Restore maybe.

I think we should just stop all the speculation and give Bryan and his team the time he needs to repair the problems properly and not just with gaffer tape to please us:)

After all if you believe in Bryan then you don't have a problem except maybe in the short run, but if you don't believe then you do have a problem and maybe its best to move on and just look at the site once in a while to see how it is all going?

All of us made our decisions to "loan or not to loan" as a bit of a leap of faith and presumably were all prudent enough to only speculate what we would happily lose on a horse race so why the big hurry?

Or is it perhaps those members who ignored that advice who are making all the wild talk?

Grace has given the best advice. Faith will achieve the right result, worrying will achieve nothing.

Time will tell :)


MichaelR