Thread: WILL PIPS Make A Come Back In Our Life Time??

Something that has not been talked about much if at all on this forum is that we know for a fact that the Malaysian authorities have been watching PIPS from day one and they have been watching rather closely. How do we know this? Well for start, Bryan himself has said that government inspector’s regularly and randomly drop into PIPS and demand access to PIPS books and to PIPS business dealings. Apparently these inspections are routine for any business of an investment nature. They don’t announce ahead of time when they are coming so no opportunity to prepare a false set of books for them to examine! Now if you don’t believe anything that Bryan says, the official department that does these routine inspections have themselves stated in response to various inquiries that they have routinely examined PIPS business and have always been satisfied with what they saw.
Don’t you think that if PIPS had been operating some type of fraudulent business those inspector’s that are highly trained in looking out for signs of fraud would have found something? at least in one of their numerous visits to PIPS offices?
This just one more of my reasons for believing the restructured program is going to happen.

Originally Posted by Chester

Something that has not been talked about much if at all on this forum is that we know for a fact that the Malaysian authorities have been watching PIPS from day one and they have been watching rather closely. How do we know this? Well for start, Bryan himself has said that government inspector’s regularly and randomly drop into PIPS and demand access to PIPS books and to PIPS business dealings. Apparently these inspections are routine for any business of an investment nature. They don’t announce ahead of time when they are coming so no opportunity to prepare a false set of books for them to examine! Now if you don’t believe anything that Bryan says, the official department that does these routine inspections have themselves stated in response to various inquiries that they have routinely examined PIPS business and have always been satisfied with what they saw.
Don’t you think that if PIPS had been operating some type of fraudulent business those inspector’s that are highly trained in looking out for signs of fraud would have found something? at least in one of their numerous visits to PIPS offices?
This just one more of my reasons for believing the restructured program is going to happen.

Good to get some reasuranse, good to hear...

miguel

Originally Posted by Dreamer

Newlife only likes his opinion.You should know that by now.

No, that is not true. My opinion is to wait till BN finalize investigation and Bryan makes proper explanation about whole issues.

All rest that are posted here is speculations and assumptions and we all know that. Negative comments are not helping anybody and will not speed up process either.

If you think Pips is not coming back, than get with other things in your life, and is no sense to repeat things over and over again.

Originally Posted by newlife

I guess you don't understand. Unless someone has proof of their criticism and bashing Pips, it is not consider other opinion, just irritation and sarcasm.

If you read my past posts, I do respect ligament questions but not attack and putting Pips and Bryan down as you few does.

It is big difference between proper question and concern vs bad manner attack on Pips. I do not like smart a*ses comment on something that they don not know what they are talking about or have any proof of their statements.

No wonder Bryan is sick of reading garbage and did worn all to stop rationalize and assuming things many times.

Either you like it or not that how it is, so either shape up with type of posts or ship out.

Shape up or ship out?........Is that what TG mentality is?.........You really don't know how to respect others opinions do you?.......As long as everyone respects yours though, then its ok......

Originally Posted by Chester

Something that has not been talked about much if at all on this forum is that we know for a fact that the Malaysian authorities have been watching PIPS from day one and they have been watching rather closely. How do we know this? Well for start, Bryan himself has said that government inspector’s regularly and randomly drop into PIPS and demand access to PIPS books and to PIPS business dealings. Apparently these inspections are routine for any business of an investment nature. They don’t announce ahead of time when they are coming so no opportunity to prepare a false set of books for them to examine! Now if you don’t believe anything that Bryan says, the official department that does these routine inspections have themselves stated in response to various inquiries that they have routinely examined PIPS business and have always been satisfied with what they saw.
Don’t you think that if PIPS had been operating some type of fraudulent business those inspector’s that are highly trained in looking out for signs of fraud would have found something? at least in one of their numerous visits to PIPS offices?
This just one more of my reasons for believing the restructured program is going to happen.

If what you say is true and there unannounced random inspections proved to be satisfactory then dont you think something major happened that caused them to completely shut pips down and start an investigation.

Yes probably. My guess is that the pitch of inquires and concerns from outside official bodies, US government agencies etc got to the point where BNM had little option but to launch an official, full blown investigation. I think BNM would be obligated in such circumstances. But as I say, it’s a guess.
Gotta rush off to work now :((

Originally Posted by Toefl

hi srair71,

I recently changed my attitude towards Pips, as I realized my stubbornness of refusing to accept the possibility of a defeat may one day hurt myself or people around me, it is wise to prepare myself for not only a positive but also a negative outcome.

Well, I am probably risking another personal attack here (doesn't bother me!) but I would like to express gratitude to SRAIR71 for starting this thread, providing a much needed avenue for people to just express their opinion up or down. I also think threads about pyramids and spirituality are fine, really I do (and I do see the intended connection) but people also need to vent sometimes.

As the above honest and noble post is an example, there appears to be somewhat of a sea change going on in people's feelings; many are still mixed and quite a few still optimistic. I do not condemn anyone who still hopes PIPS returns; who would not if they invested? Nobody's being greedy; it is a normal human desire to be rich, and who would say no to getting rich quick? I would not.

But it is good and HEALTHY to express and to be able to express personal viewpoints; in my opinion the more the merrier -- as there seem to be so many more who do not post but come to find information and perhaps to resonate with others' views. I think it IS being helpful, especially for those who are tired of "just waiting" endlessly for a bank halfway around the world to decide their future.

(I honestly believe in "direct knowlege," also known as intuitive perception, and that it is possible to know, right now, what is the reality. But I don't expect people to agree with that and of course by all means it is prudent to wait until the investigation is complete to verify. "Trust (yourself), but verify")

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By the way, I just reread the RolClub rules and nowhere therein is there any mention of "having to be a supporter of PIPS." So, where better than here to express all kinds of views and feelings, with others who are going through the same thing, as here at RolClub, given the state of things?

Say NO to the thought police! Everyone make up their own mind!

Opinion sharing is part of what the forum is all about. The issue is when someone posts their opinion as a statement of fact. Please be clear.

In my opinion, Pips will return in your lifetime. (see how easy that was)

srair wrote:

Hi All, I put the question out there to see how others feel about the going ons with P-PS. There's postive and negative, but there seems to be more negative then postive. Thats okay everyone is entitle to there own thoughts but lets please keep it clean and above the table.

You may ask why did I put the question out there, well thats very simple. I'm trying to gage the difference between last year this time and now. You can say what a odd thing to do but its been a rocky road for us all, it also helps me to look into the way Bryan is handling this situation. The first time I met him was in Las Vegas what a great time that was.

Well srair, the situation on this forum has changed drastically. This forum has somehow gotten overgrown with negativity.
Those who really support BM are actually being antagonized.

I think that it has come to a stage where the real supporters either do not visit any more or if they do they stopped making posts and just read.

Therefore, I think it is not the general consensus of the same members that you get with this thread. The members that post are totally different from those that did way back.
Btw even this thread, being on it's fifth page is filled with posts from the same persons not dealing with the subject.

Sad but it is like it is.

Hi, I must say that it appears that there is a difference in directions here. When I post are others on a given subject it is rare that the orginal subject is addressed. I find it odd that we cannot stay on track and address the orginal subject. In doing that is where we get a true snapshot of how people feel about a given subject.

Each time I come away with a sinking feel that the whole P-PS issue has directly affect each of us adversly. Now a course correction is required, but you see this becomes a major issue the only person who can do that is Bryan.

I really have mixed emotions about his ability to bring us back on course. Has the issue gotten so far off track that its impossible. This is one issue non of us can address.

I'm going to throw a little logic in here, what if we've reached the end of the trail more are less? Why cann't we be told well I tried but at this point it is beyond correction. I beleive that the great masses would be upset but at least we would all know where we stand. Its hard to pilot a ship when the compass is on the blink.

Now from a psychological view point the longer this issue drags out the worse it will become. It is not good for the soul to continue on this course. Sometimes I wonder what purpose a fourm really serve, it helps some to vent there angry and whatever else. But does it really help? If you have a program that is running well and everyone is being paid the whole tone of a forum is postive. That is understandable but above conditions are not being met what does it serve?

We cannot go on for another six months or even three months without some type of input about so many issues that have not been addressed.