Thread: Truth Revealed...at Last!!!

well Paddy and aaera...
thanks for your comments...
My take on this is that we do not FULLY understand what these ancient scientists of the SUPER civilization existing here on earth before the DELUGE were capable of creating...many artefacts speak of of a much more advanced technology than what we are up to in present time...
I'm just referring to what has been found out...and in all my readings I can only come to the conclusion that the science of today is way behind the science that once were...

Just My OWN Thoughts..

Largo

yeah, this also makes me wonder about the evolution of consciousness.

maybe we've taken a few steps backwards... some anyway.

i like the idea of time loops. tho this ties in with conspiracy theory concerning et's. but as i said, it seems like something has and is keeping us in somekinda pen. and our technology is just "spider technology", as L. Graham put it.

there has been breakthoughs - mainly by "blackballed/fringe" scientists. and in most if not all cases, their findings totally harmonize with the ancient wisdom.
as in creation myths/Involution and the subquantum realm etc.

gov. black opps and r&d is rather shameful. the really advanced technology is under wraps - mainly (to be) used to keep us in line.
seems kinda obvious.....the big status quo chicken pen.

As Promised before…That I soon would CONNECT all the bits and pieces of my Stories from ancient time to the present situation we are all in…

I have to give you some very VITAL information….

The problem the world at large is having for the moment IS…
All of the different kinds of Earthly Existences such as…
You, Me, ALL of the People, ALL of the Animals, ALL of the Plants, ALL of the Mountains, ALL of the Rivers, ALL of the Seas, ALL of the Deserts, ALL of the Atmosphere, All of the Earth and EVEN ALL OF OUR THOUGHTS…shortly ALL EARTHLY EXISTENCES…IS OUT OF ORDER…. Because the 3 Factors INFLUENCING us and our environment IS OUT OF ORDER!

To fully understand this one needs to know HOW the Ancient Scientists “Got Things In Order…”

Below is an astonishing report about this…
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Reference: Ground Penetrating Radar Showing Ancient Civilizations,
By Paul White

Due to the declassification of ground penetrating radar, data has come forth to show us that huge underground tunnel systems and complex underground cities existed thousands of years ago right under our feet. Places such as Guatemala in South Americas, tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal, which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. This tunnel system now sheds light on how half a million Mayan Indians escaped the decimation of their culture. SIRA radar was used in 1978 to map a subterranean complex beneath the Egyptian Pyramids as early as 1978.

At a recent meeting in Australia, one of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtak, showed film footage of work in progress called, CHAMBERS OF THE DEEP, due to be released at the end of the century. As of yet, this footage has never come to light. The film reveals the discovery of a vast megalithic metropolis, 15,000 years old, reaching several levels below the Giza plateau. While the rest of the New-Age speculates about a hidden chamber under the left paw of the Sphinx, the legendary "City Of The Gods", lays sprawled beneath. Complete with hydraulic underground waterways, the film shows massive chambers, the proportions of our largest cathedrals, with enormous statues, the size of the Valley of the Nile, carved in-situ. Researchers, risking their lives with lights and cameras, carefully negotiated rubber dinghies across subterranean rivers and kilometer-wide lakes, to penetrate sealed chambers beyond. Already, remarkable caches of records and artifacts have been found. From these records, as well as the Sumerian, we know there was an era the Egyptians called Zep Tepi, "The First Times". During this time a mysterious group of 'gods' appeared , bringing with them their sciences, traditions and laws. We can find evidence of this time and these gods throughout the world...From Thoth and Osiris in Egypt to Quetzacoatl and Virococha in the Americas.

Evidence now shows us that prior to the deluges great and high tech civilizations existed. One of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtakthe, said this was a culture who cracked the genetic code and possessed the keys of the physical spectrum, the "Higher Light Physics" of the ancients... After the Deluge, much of the information was lost. What wasn't has been secretly and selfishly guarded by the 'keepers of knowledge'….

As was promised, all things shall be revealed in the end days. Many discoveries today are now coming to light. What we have found out is that the discoveries in Egypt and other parts of the world not only evidence an advance technology, but an evolutionary path beyond our present state. Careful scientific examination of the world's key pyramid sites, reveal them to be sophisticated harmonic structures, not only mirroring positions of the planets and stellar systems but, designed to mimic the chakras and harmonic cavities of the human body. Even each stone within the Great Pyramid is harmonically tuned to a specific frequency or musical tone. The sarcophagus in the centre of the Great Pyramid is tuned to the frequency of the human heart beat. Astonishing experiments, conducted by Dr. Hurtak and colleagues at the Great Pyramid and other sites in the South Americas, demonstrate the pyramids to be voice-activated "geophysical computers." Intoning specific ancient sounds, the scientific team produced visible standing waves of light, above and within the pyramids and were even able to penetrate, hitherto, inaccessible chambers. Subsequent discoveries indicate the ancient priest-scientists employed some sort of harmonic sound technology within the temple structures. The lost Enochian knowledge reveals the mother tongue as a "language of Light". Known to the ancients as HIBURU. It is the primal seed language, introduced at the beginning of this time cycle.

Modern research confirms, the most ancient form Hebrew to be a natural language, the alphabetic forms emerging from the phosphene flare patterns of the brain. The same shapes, in fact, born of a spinning vortex. It is a true language of light, coursing through our very nervous system. Encoding the natural waveform geometries of the physical world, Hiburu is a harmonic language, mimicking the waveform properties of light. The "Keys" of Enoch (spiritual tome) speaks of, turn out to be sound keys, keys to be vibratory matrix of reality itself, the mythic "Power of the World". The Enochian knowledge describes sonic equations, encoded within the ancient mantras and god names, capable of directly affect the nervous system and producing profound effect of healing and higher consciousness states. As the ancient texts declare, "If you would speak with the gods you must first learn the language of the gods."

DNA, the ancient cabalistic "Tree Of Life" portrayed in the Biblical Torah, is now coming to be viewed as a live vibrating structure, rather than a fixed tape recording. Many modern scientists, regard DNA as a shimmering, waveform configuration, able to be modified by light, radiation, magnetic fields or sonic pulses. The legacy of Thoth/Enoch suggests this "language of Light", the harmonic science of the ancients, could actually affect DNA. The knowledge of Thoth/Enoch implies humans are meant to evolve beyond our present terrestrial form, as the Bible tells us, "we may become greater than angels". The Egyptians record stories of the "Star Walkers", occasional individuals who, like Enoch, travelled "beyond the Great Eye of Orion" and returned, to walk like gods amongst men. Despite the bleaching of semi-divine beings from modern consciousness, could it be possible, as the ancient texts insist, we are destined to "become as gods"? Are the Mayan "Lords of Light" and the Egyptian/Tibetan "Shining Ones" really a higher form of humans?


According to many Earth legends, such beings are supposed to return regularly, at the beginning and end of each time cycle, the 13,000 year half-point of our solar system's 26,000 year zodiacal orbit around galaxy centre. Because of conditions on our galactic orbit, these 13,000 year intervals or "worlds", seem to be separated by cataclysmic upheaval. According to the "calendar in stone" of the Great Pyramid, which describes the so-called "Phoenix Cycle" of our galactic orbit, the present time period ends (converted to our present calendar) in the year 2012 AD. The Greek word PHOENIX, derived from the Egyptian word, PA-HANOK, actually means, "The House of Enoch". The Enochian knowledge suggests, these regular cataclysmic changes act as an evolutionary agent provocateur, to quicken the resident life forms to the next evolutionary phase, prior to exodus from the womb planet.

Human evolution may proceed more rapidly than previously thought. The evidence now appearing, records civilisations before us, who mastered the physical continuum and progressed beyond this world. The discoveries emerging from Egypt, describe the existence of a world wide pyramid temple system in prehistory, mounted like antennae on the key energy meridians, which were employed by ancient priest-scientists as a musical system to stabilize the tectonic plates of the planet... cataclysmic geology at it's finest. From the mother tongue word JEDAIAH, meaning "the way of the Word" or "the power of the Word", the ancient JEDAI priests used the language of Light to tune the whole planet into harmony.

by Paul White
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SO…as you now can see…THE RUSSIAN PYRAMID PROJECT I’ve been referring to…
… Is actually a very OLD Project…

I’ll soon let you know the ramifications of this to the CURRENT Civilization…
Quite a MIND-BOGGLING story….

To Be Continued….

Largo

hi and thanks. in General, all this seems to be the case. nevertheless, even within the alternative community Hurtak's book is very controversial. some say mis-info (as u may know, there are both authors and entire organizations that are Plants by intelligence agencies to keep true seekers/researchers off track).
to, when they refer to enochian what exactly do they mean? Dr. John Dee's enochian? i've several books on that system and have given it alot of (layman's) time. but again, Within These groups that actually do research this system...it's nothing like what these sensationalists make it out to be.
i'm also familiar with hebrew and Stan Tenen's work on this. how each letter seems to manifest (by shadow and or reflected light) through particular geometries. this is awesome....while at the same time seems to be identical to finding patterns in clouds and plastered walls. i've yet to get his video series to really see what's up.
to and perhaps moot, if u dig deep enough u will find that hebrew was just a canaanitish Dialect - nothing special. it (proto or rock hebrew) evolved from egyptian hieroglyphics and phoenician. so did greek. of course, some high minded mystics fashioned those neat looking ("fire") letters we see today.
there are a variety of magickal alpahbets out there. i am totally into this.
and i'm extremely sensitive to my own phosphenes. they say sanskrit was intuited the same way...this is just a fancy way of saying, "i made this up".

but the russians do seem to be ahead of us as far a psychic research goes.
just from my perusals i get the feeling (due to latest "discoveries") that we are on the verge of a breakthrough.

*another thing about this coming "wave". they say this is going to polarize people. meaning, some will raise in frequency and visa versa. so we need to make an effort here.

also familiar with that scientist who did cymatic research in the king's chamber...
i guess all we're doing now is trying to harness this...zero point energy.

there's also some freaky research into pulsars by Dr. P. Violette. from what i saw of a map of the galaxy, plotted with these pulsars, it actually does seem like they were Intentionally placed or manipulated in some way (which is this guy's theory). that is, there are et's out there so far ahead of us we can't even imagine. and they did something to warn us of something...something which might've cause that huge tidal wave...etc.

i love pondering the kabbalistic tree as well. but there are so many different versions of this to make it mud. what i'd like to see is some consistency between the chinese system of elements and our western system.

all that talk about the true name of god...from what i've learned about hebrew - it's Use of vowels - there is/can be no correct way. if you follow it's rules. some folks are far too romantic tho.
the shemhamphoresh - the extended name of god - was fashioned from 3 verses in the OT.
imo, once you look into bible origins and critiques, this looks rather pathetic.
tho i will give them a bit of leeway seeing they did it when it was in it's pure hebraic form. pure hebraic form...the canaanitish dialect?

around in circles....

i guess we need to read between the lines and keep our right brains up. and then take a reality check....

this stuff is awesome. keep us posted!

In order NOT to "CONFOUND the LANGUAGE" further...
I find it vital to give these...hard to achieve FACTS...

From Jonathan Gray...
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LANGUAGES CAME OUT OF TURKEY
And then came another bombshell. The news that broke on December 1,
2003, left segments of the scientific world in shock.
The roots of our language had also been traced… to Turkey!

As said the New Zealand Herald on that day:
“AucklandUniversity researchers have stunned academics around the
world by tracing the origins of the English language to Turkish farmers.

“Using a novel approach to develop an Indo-European language tree, the
researchers say they have evidence the roots of the English language go
back about 9,000 years to Turkey.


“Associate Professor Russell Gray and PhD student Quentin Atkinson
published their research in the British journal Nature…
“Gray was encouraged that his research had been supported in the United
States by StanfordUniversity’ s eminent geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-
Sforza…
“Gray and Atkinson had analysed thousands of words from 87 languages
(past and present) to find out when the various branches of the Indo-
European family tree started diverging.
“We looked at words from different languages that were clearly related
and grouped them in sets.
“Gray said a simple example was that five was cinq in French and cinque
in Italian.
“We built matrices of all our information, gleaned from the Internet and
every obscure etymological dictionary we could find.
“ The researchers then used sophisticated computer programs to do the
analysis and build language trees.
“ The length of the resulting branches and their various offshoots showed
when each language diverged from its predecessors and developed a
separate identity.
“Gray said Hittite (an extinct Anatolian language) was the first major
language group to branch from the Indo-European trunk.
“Over subsequent millennia the same trunk sprouted Tocharian,
Armenian, Greek, Albanian, Iranian, Indic, Slavic, Baltic, Germanic,
French/Iberian, Italic and Celtic language groups.
“Gray said the findings had wider implications than just language
development. Languages, like genes, provided vital clues about human
history, he said.

“A Marsden Fund grant from the government and a James Cook
Fellowship from the Royal Society of New Zealand helped pay for the
research, which included the equivalent of three solid years of computer
time.”

http://www.auckland.ac.nz/cir_newsevents/index.cfm?action=display_news&news_id=3393

The time factor for language development will be addressed in Chapter 11.

What is worth noting here is... the origin of the language tree in the
territory now occupied by TURKEY.

Jonathan Gray
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Now that is some astonishing findings ....don't you think..?

Largo

Interesting findings and research here... a Marsden Fund being the centre of it too... I wondered if Bryan had any notion of that potential linkup....somewhere along the heritage roots!

Keep more rolling in Largo! There's room here as large as the universe and patience put together to absorb more while still waiting....for those funds in limbo.

Now People...as we just have covered the spreading of LANGUAGE...
Let's look into the Spreading of PEOPLE...

From Jonathan Gray
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JUDGMENT DAY
Captain Alexei Klyuyev was preparing his Tu-134 for approach to
Kuibyshev airport in the former Soviet Union when a foolish idea occurred
to him.
As the cockpit voice recorder later showed, Klyuyev started boasting to his
crew that he was such an intuitive pilot he could land the jet
BLINDFOLDED.
Just two minutes before touch-down, he ordered the flight engineer to close
the blinds of the windscreen.
Klyuyev opened the blinds a few seconds later just as his aircraft started
crashing into the ground.
Sixty-two people died. Klyuyev is serving a 15-year prison sentence.
Something similar ruined the old world. It had fallen into the hands of men
who were out to do their “ own thing” .
If we are to believe the ancient records, they had decided to “ go it alone” ,
guided by their own intuition. “Be independent,” was the cry. “You don’t
need a Higher Power to guide you.”
So mankind pulled down the blinds on its Creator. They were in rebellion.
That’s what the ancient records say.
… And eventually there was a mess.
The nations of this planet Earth were in chaos. They had reached an
impasse. No way out.

AGREEMENT ON TEN PRE-FLOOD
GENERATIONS
An interesting point of similarity between the ancient traditions is the
statement by many of them concerning ten kings (or fathers) who lived
before the Flood.
._ In Genesis chapter 5, ten successive “ fathers” are listed from Adam to
Noah. Then, it tells us, the Great Flood came.
._ The Sibylline books of Babylon, as well as Hindu, Chinese and
Phoenician traditions, agree that there were ten generations before the
Flood.
._ The Egyptians preserved a list of ten pre-Flood “ gods” .
._ The ten “ kings” of the Maya (Central American) tradition refer to the
same period.
._ The “Kish King List” of ancient Sumeria likewise referred to “ the ten
kings who lived before the Flood.”
._ Plato wrote of ten kings of Atlantis before it disappeared under the
water. Could this be a memory of the same pre-Flood world?
._ A “ Stone Age” culture discovered during the late Middle Ages on the
Canary Islandsstill maintained the ancient tradition of ten kings.
._ The natives of Greenlandpreserve the tradition that ten generations of
men had lived upon the earth when a universal Flood came and the
whole human race was destroyed.
It is significant that these ten antedeluvian generations recur in the
traditions of so many ancient peoples so widely separated in both time and
place. They recur with a most stubborn persistency. They evidently have a
common source in the same historical facts.

TWO DIFFERENT DOUBLE LISTS AGREE
The book of Genesis states that mankind polarised into two basic groups
before and until the time of the Flood. The first group (Adam to Noah)
continued for ten generations. The second group (the line of Adam’s son
Cain) occupied eight generations.
Sumerian tradition likewise preserved two lists of “ kings” who reigned
before the Flood. One of them contained eight names (as does the family
tree of Cain), the other ten names (as does the family tree of Genesis 5.)

“EXAGGERATED” TIME PERIODS
In the Babylonian history of the ten antedeluvian kings, the obviously
overstated “ reign” of each king (one, for example, is said to have reigned
for 64,800 years) raises immediate doubts. It seems dubious that the highly
civilised and intelligent Babylonians could believe such a figure. Yet,
modern scholars have attributed such nonsense to them.
However, recent research has shed light on this problem. The Babylonian
unit of measurement, the sarus, had two different values - (1) the
astrological (corresponding to a time period of 3,600 years) and (2) the
civil (corresponding to 18½ years).
When this is understood, the problem evaporates.
One need only divide the reign of each Chaldean pre-Flood king by 3,600
to arrive at the basic number, then multiply it by 18½ to obtain the writer’s
intended meaning.

As Rene Noorbergen explains:
“ The changes brought about through this method are so startling that in
some cases the so-called reigns of the legendary Chaldean kings become
almost identical with the important highlights in the lives of the Biblical
patriarchs; that is, the birth of their eldest sons.
“More important, however, is that this new approach boils down the total
reign of the ten antedeluvian kings to 2,221 years instead of the hundreds
of thousands of years mythology ascribes to them - and this brings the new
Chaldean figures of pre-Flood years believably close to the approximate
number of years the Bible ascribes to the time that expired between
Creation and the Flood… .

“Due to the fact that Hebrew figures represent some very peculiar
translation problems creating a number of minor deviations in the
numerous Bible translations, the Biblical time span that lapsed between
Creation and the Deluge is given in at least three different figures.
“ The Samaritan version of the early Bible books gives a total of 1,307
years before the Flood. The Masoretic text, on which the King James Old
Testament is based gives a total of 1,656 years. The Septuagint version
gives a total of 2,242 years.

“Compare the Septuagint total with the Chaldean account of 2,221 years,
and we arrive at a difference of 21 years - a breath of years that is almost
negligible.” (Rene Noorbergen, The ArkFileMountain View, Ca.: Pacific Press
Publishing Association, 1974, p.56)

Interestingly, the Toltecs of Mexico believed that the Flood came “ after the
world had existed for 1,716 years.” (Francis Hitching, World Atlas of Mysteries.
London: Pan Books, Ltd., 1978, p.165)
In the sixteenth century, the Indian savant Ixtlilxochitl in his Relaciones
penned a history based on all available pre-Conquest records and legends,
aided by his ability to understand the native tongue and decipher the
hieroglyphics.
The history began with the creation of the world by the supreme god
Tloque Nahuaque. This first era lasted 1,716 years, until floods swept over
the earth. This is only a 60 year variation from the figure given in the King
James Bible.

POPULATION
In Genesis, it is said that men filled the earth.
The possession at that time of a far greater vitality of body and mind than
we have now would encourage a prolific human population.
The climatic conditions of that original world, the abundance and
accessibility of food supplies, of virgin soil and unlimited riches beckoning
man to take possession: these were the most ideal conditions for
population growth.

We cannot be certain as to the world population when the disaster struck.
But let’s do a little calculating.

On a worldwide basis, five children per family is today considered average,
with a female reproductive capacity of say, 30 to 35 years. Until recently,
up to eight or a dozen children was considered the norm in many countries.
Certainly the very much longer life spans in the antedeluvian world must
have facilitated a rapid population explosion. If the reproductive capacity
of the pre-Flood woman was half her age (as is so for mothers today), then
it would appear that 400 years of child-bearing per woman may not have
been unusual.

On this basis, a family of 20 to 26 children does not seem unreasonable.
Let’s be conservative, and allow a family of just 20 children
If we were to assume that antedeluvian families averaged 22 children, then
the figure increases to almost 5 billion - the population just a few years ago.

Population figures change rapidly. In the early nineteenth century world
population reached 1 billion; in 1930 2 billion; in 1960 3 billion; in 1974
4 billion; in 1987 5 billion; and in 1995 6 billion.

World population grew very slowly until 1650, but then increased from 545 million to
2.5 billion in 1950. By the mid 1980s it had reached about 4.5 billion - and is now in excess of
6 billion.

For a time, one generation simply “ added” to the previous one. It is only
comparatively recently that the “ adding” has been replaced by
“multiplying” .
And the “multiplying” has produced an exponential growth curve.
The Genesis record refers to a similar state of affairs shortly before the
Flood intervened. It says that mankind “ began to multiply” . (Genesis 6:1)
With a likely high birth rate and low death rate in that antedeluvian world,
the strong possibility emerges that mankind covered practically the entire
globe.

Pre-Flood population might easily have been as great as that of today - or
more. It could easily have “ filled” the earth, as Genesis says.

INTELLIGENCE
I think it was Albert Einstein who said that man uses only about ten percent
of his mental capacity, that we have ten times more brain potential than
we’ll ever use.
May I toss in a cat among pigeons? If evolution theory were true, then why
on earth is the 90 percent of our brain capacity even there?
According to traditional evolutionary theory, body parts are supposed to
evolve because of a need for them. This 90 percent makes sense only in
terms of original need and use.
So if intelligence really were increasing, the brain would be increasing in
size and complexity over the generations - the human brain would not
possess, as it now does, large areas which are dormant, or nearly so.
Whilst there is some evidence for a physical degeneration of mankind, it
appears that the greatest degeneration has occurred within human
intellectual capabilities.
Since our brain has the capacity to store information many times greater
than is actually utilised, the human intelligence potential seems, in fact, to
have been designed for a creature with a much longer life span than we
possess today. If the human brain was meant to be utilised to a far greater
extent than it is at present - even if it did not use its full potential - then the
individual would necessarily have had a far longer life span than he does,
to obtain the fullest possible benefit from such extra intellectual ability.

We might reasonably assume that the first man possessed the ability to use
the entire capacity of his brain.

HIGH CIVILISATION
Did you know that nearly all the writings of ancient peoples worldwide tell
the same story, that of a decline from an original “Golden Age”?
Just think of it! With longer life spans and vastly greater brain power -
augmented by knowledge imparted by the Creator - the pre-Flood race
must have been capable of scientific and inventive reasoning far beyond
our present capacity.
There is now evidence that the earliest races did create a civilisation vastly
superior to our own.
I used to be a skeptic concerning this. We are taught by evolutionary
“ history” that early man was primitive. The story goes that we ascended to
our present civilised state by a slow, uninterrupted development.
However, twelve years of specialised research, as well as on-site
investigation of the FACTS, ultimately compelled me to face this truth:
that there was an original advanced world which gave impetus to all
succeeding civilisations.

There are recently discovered artefacts that cannot be dismissed, namely
objects of metal sitting in museums, unquestionably made in the ancient
world, that would have required very advanced technology to produce. A
technology not to be repeated until our day.
The weight of evidence grows daily - evidence that all the major secrets of
modern technology were known, and forgotten, long ago. Evidence that
early mankind did create a society that surpassed ours in all aspects of
development.

Could ancient man really have produced such things as earth-orbiting
satellites and computers? In my book Dead Men’ s Secrets, the lid is lifted
on more than one thousand surprising discoveries - from the seafloor,
jungles and desert sands of our planet. There are forgotten secrets that
almost smack of science fiction. The evidence is fascinating, even
startling!

An ancient Vedic manuscript discovered in India, The Samarangana
Sutrachara, devotes over 200 pages to describing how to build and fly
wingless aircraft. It deals with no less than 49 types of “ propulsive fire”
used in these vehicles. Some systems used electrical or magnetic forces,
others the power of heated mercury.
Other ancient documents, the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, and Drone
Parva, also give accounts of these “Vimanas” and their abilities.

With ancient man’s incredible mental faculties, tremendous advances were
made, advances that you and I can’ t even begin to imagine.
Because of the difference in the mental capacity between us and the
antedeluvians, their civilisation may have followed a very different path
from ours. It may have contained elements that are incomprehensible to us
and excluded much of what we consider essential.
After the Great Deluge, as the physical earth changed and life spans
shortened, human intelligence would deteriorate rapidly - yet not before
some super civilisations sprang up. But, as it turned out, their secrets would
soon be lost.

REASON FOR THE GREAT FLOOD
A fatal circle of influences ruined the old world. Ancient records are
adamant that the basic cause of the Deluge event was spiritual – that it was
a judgment on man’ s wickedness.
We read that crimes unknown to the law, never before seen in the world,
were rife. Science was leading the way. Experimenters, by altering the
created genetic codes of humans and animals, were creating monstrosities.
There was corruption of man and beast.
Two groups were polarising: the *****tes who preserved and respected the
original laws given by the Creator of the planet; and the Cainites who were
obsessed with materialism and raw pleasure. The Cainites were haughty
and shrewd. As intervention approached, they had just about conquered the
minds of the *****tes. The number of faithful was diminishing at an
alarming rate.

Finally, those that stood out were confined within the narrow limits of a
single family group.
Unless there was intervention, there would soon be no survivors.
It is recorded that “ the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and…
every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
(Genesis.6:5) The human race had become almost totally depraved. (Genesis
6:12)
And “ the earth was filled with violence.” (Genesis.6:11) A beautiful world
was transformed into a house of destructive madness. The balance of
nature and the very existence of life on earth was in doubt.
Men like Enoch spoke up loudly that a day of reckoning lay ahead. Noah
tried to save his contemporaries from the coming disaster. Few listened.
There are hints, however, that some elite groups took his warnings
seriously enough to propose an evacuation from Planet Earth. Allegedly,
sanskrit texts in the University of the Punjab tell of space flights 3000 BC.
According to Dr. Ruth Reyna (who was commissioned by U.S. Space
authorities), these flights were considered imperative due to the threat of
a coming Deluge on earth. (Jonathan Eisen, Suppressed Inventions and Other
Discoveries. New York: Avery publishing Group, 1999, p.504)

On the brink
Human life on this planet was poised to blast itself to extinction. It was
time for supernatural power to intervene.
A cleansing of the planet would prepare it for future generations. So it was
that the surface of the entire earth was now to be disturbed, refitted as a
more austere and less bountiful home, where a rebellious race would be
better off with less ease and abundance, in an environment not conducive to
longevity.

For this new start, an untainted family was spared. They were to be
rewarded with life in a new world free from the present human threat.
The destruction of the original earth is portrayed by ancient traditions as a
sovereign act of the Creator.

Natural laws were to be the agency. Created forces already latent in nature
were to be released for a season. These forces would act according to
known laws of hydrostatics and hydrodynamics.
So it happened. Suddenly it struck … a disaster neither man-made nor
ordinary. Various natural agencies were suddenly orchestrated on an
unnatural scale. And when you consider all the evidence taken together, it
does hint at some Intelligence involved.

Just a handful of people lived to see both worlds. The records tell us that
they already knew WHEN it would occur and they had been preparing for
120 years.

THE FIRST WORLD – Summary
CLIMATE Geology testifies to a once mild and uniform climate over the entire
globe. There is reason to believe that this paradise world existed within the memory of
the human race.
SURFACE Most of the earth’ s surface was then land. There were no high
mountains forming physical or climatic barriers. Ocean beds were relatively shallow.
PLANTS AND ANIMALS There was luxuriance of vegetation, pole to pole. Plant
and animal types were of greater variety than today. They were also more widely and
evenly distributed – and of greater size and quality – than their modern descendants.
VAPOUR CANOPY A vapour envelope surrounding the planet not only precluded
winds, storms and rain, but also filtered out life-shortening cosmic rays.
LONGEVITY Several factors favoured a much longer human life span. Indeed,
while ancient records recall such longevity, modern science admits to its possibility.
POPULATION Expansion over some two millennia may have produced a
population comparable to our own, sufficiently large to cover the earth.
SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY With the incredible mental faculties of man at that
time, tremendous scientific advances were made, advances that we can’ t even begin to
imagine.
CORRUPTION AND VIOLENCE Yet mankind was sliding into spiritual
bankruptcy. Corruption was widespread. Violence was exploding out of control. The
race may have become totally extinct, had not supernatural power intervened.
PARALLEL WITH TODAY Population explosion – a proliferation of science
and technology – worsening corruption – exploding violence. Does that sound familiar?
INTERVENTION Suddenly the great disaster struck. It was neither a man-made
accident, nor an ordinary calamity. It appears to have been an intelligently directed
event, in which vastly different natural agencies were suddenly orchestrated on an
unnatural scale.
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NOT very good prospects for the FUTURE...
Let's see what happened...

To be continued...

Largo

this stuff is old hat. folks are just rewriting this stuff to sell more books.

i knew about the turkish connection years ago - from my interest in runes. always remember there were smart, curious folks throughout the ages. most of the good works (research/discoveries) were destroyed.
even today; W. Reich the orgonne guy...he was the first to have his books burned in the US. he died in prison (just because he was on to something).
the list is endless. very scary.

most chronologies in the bible are atrocious. critics have a very easy time of it.
pathetically, anything true in the bible is a plagiarism from "pagan"dom. {but it's mainly to be taken as alchemical metaphor.}
in this, there's more evidence for those great bible figures being fictive than historical. evidence found in the plagiarized sources!
curious folks way back could'nt help note that the descriptions/exploits of the major biblical figures sounded suspiciously like those found in earlier texts.
good for them. all this has been a joke on us. {which is why i don't care for the kid's bible. kids need to hear the whole story for once}

those two groups of people (cains/seths) are (in other works) labelled as atlantians and lemurians.
as usual, the details are a mish mash.

the languages in use today are ....dead. meaning, it's the ancient lost/suppressed languages that were more holistic/body wisdom-nature based. today, remnant examples would be like what they speak in iceland (from old norse), gaelic.....
similarly, we had the gregorian calendar foisted on us. a further step away from natural cycles.

go look for something about ancient genetic tampering....

um no, drop the books. get some good shrooms, pull the shades, lock the door...and learn. then you'll see why even those are banned.

Well aeara,

It seems to me that you are the "Oracle of all Knowledge..."
but BEFORE you discard all that I've been posting here about the ancient world...and some bible stories ...Why don't you read the "Dead Man's Secrets"...by Jonathan Gray...these SECRETS wont go away by implying them to be fantasies or any other general remark...
It's the FACTS left for us to discover...

AND before you DISCARD any of my posted stories again...
please feel free to give SOME HARD EVIDENCE for that discarding...
NOT just random opinions..

Regards

Largo

gee, i must be at the rol forum. ok, i know nothing... i'll shut up. have fun with your revelations - and bandwidth.