Thread: "Look What PIPS Did To ME"

A SIGNIFICANT 8 Figure Amount, would more be
equal to or more than $50,000,000 usd...

Just to keep the records straight....

Largo

Yes, my point exactly...

Interesting,

And the Blame Game goes on and on. (g) Does it really make any difference who is technically to blame. As I have always said, when the buck stopped, so too did everything else, so who stopped the buck? You cannot blame members, sorry, I don't buy this BS excuse for one second given the supreme patience everyone demonstrated will beyond reason.

As I see it, when VAT was not funded, and everyone who had pending withdrawals, who gave up on wires, and paid for debit card, and in some cases, the third time, and then nothing, human nature takes over, people start to complain. Was it our fault? Come on, we all know the answer to this question.

Simply put, if you were VAT, and the agreement of all who had accounts was in default based on no fees being paid due to no funding of accounts, what would you do? Who was to blame for this? The members? Yes, technically, they were suppose to be persoanlly responsible for fees, so yes, in this case, it was members fault, but as we know, we were all waiting for funding, so whose fault was this? GN, no, I don't think so.

Obviously, as was the case, a deposit was required by VAT to insure a lack of funding would not impact them again with a negative balance as it did the first time around. When the buck stopped, so too did everything else, end of story. Who ultimately controlled the buck? The members? GN? I don't think so, but everyone is free to believe whatever they want to believe until the truth comes out, and when it does, as is always the case, you will see it was not the members fault, not even close. Just my two dinars on the issue.

Good luck to all, Mike

great post I agree 1000% with you

I am going to agree with you as well Mike and it was well-stated as usual. (going OT for a second) and might I add that the post about rude mods was never meant for you. :) (ok back OT) I have a hard time swallowing that no one is allowed to comment about timeline, source, where the buck stopped...etc. Even with the enron scandal, shareholders were made aware of what happened shortly after everything broke.....hanging on the line again..... We are creditors and I believe that we have that right.

I would have been happy to pay VAT high fees so I could be paid $10,000/mo. then $20,000/mo. then eventually $10,000/day + so what kind of high fees was VAT talking about? Was $50 million deposit too much? When hundreds of thousands and then millions of dollars are being paid daily then maybe it is not too much. Was $50million too much for PIPS to pay? I don't know but PIPS supposedly had lots of money. Even if our return on investment had to be reduced a bit for a short period of time then everyone would be happily paid and still quite handsomly and a lot of people would have been more than happy just to get even $500 after waiting six months.

So many unanswered ?????? makes it so hard to practice the 'P' word. Well, it looks like it's going to be a long long long wait before we get the answers to our ????......Possibly years.

God Bless yoa all!
pyt111

Originally Posted by kevo

Not to long into this mess Bryan was well on his way to a solution and stated so on more than one occasion. Since the resolution was not happening fast enough for "those who know much better how to run P*PS than Bryan" they decided to help him out by calling and writing anyone who would listen. For all we know we could have been a mear 2 weeks away from total resolution, but instead thanks to the "we know better" membership who could not wait 2 more weeks to have the future people only dream about... P*PS sits here with its arms and legs broken in an Asian court with its very life hangiing in the balance.

YES ... To all the people who did their part by contacting the "authorities" beginning way back in 2005... we are here in this condition because of you. You want someone to blame for people losing their houses and not being able to buy medicine or food the blame is yours entirely.

-kevo

Are you a complete id**t or just partially? If the money was real, no matter who called, who wrote, or anything else, would not cause a problem. I doubt if everyone started calling or writing letters to authorities about Microsoft, IBM or General Motors (also billion dollar companies) that those companies suddenly would cease to operate. They might be investigated, but NOT SHUT DOWN!

To point the finger of blame at the PIPS membership, if it isn't the stupidest thing I have heard lately, it certainly is in the top 2. Putting money into anything is a risk, a risk we all assumed, provided THE PROGRAM WAS HONEST AND THE FUNDS WERE HANDLED HONESTLY! Most HYIP programs fail for one reason ONLY! They are SCAMS and the money is stolen. They don't fail because they were legitemate and the investments went bad.

Real investments also don't go "bust" over night. Even high yield or high risk investments decay and/or die over time and the losses are seen daily and certainly NOT in only 1 day. My ROL was profitable (supposedly) on August 15, 2005. I can invest in a stock, buy options (the majority expire worthless) or commodities futures (very risky), and if I lose, it was my decision and I am to blame for my loss. If I give money to a brokerage firm or any investing entity and they steal it, I can't be blamed for their immorality and criminal behavior. I can only be blamed for putting too much trust (perhaps foolishly) into that person or entity.

The real risk, regardless of any diclaimer is: Is this program a scam or not. You certainly cannot blame the people who put money into a program for its failure, but you can blame and seek restitution from the operator of the program for incompetance, ineptitude, theft or whatever the case may be.

Investigations may be launched because a few people bit**ed or complained, but authorities DO NOT shut down a company without some merit, and for an investigation to go on this long, something has been found to warrant further investigation. But I guess in your feeble mindset, that too is the fault of the PIPS membership. You're sick to your stomach? Your foolish comments and statements are contemptuous and vomitous!

Originally Posted by ellengieinc

Are you a complete id**t or just partially? If the money was real, no matter who called, who wrote, or anything else, would not cause a problem. I doubt if everyone started calling or writing letters to authorities about Microsoft, IBM or General Motors (also billion dollar companies) that those companies suddenly would cease to operate. They might be investigated, but NOT SHUT DOWN!

To point the finger of blame at the PIPS membership, if it isn't the stupidest thing I have heard lately, it certainly is in the top 2. Putting money into anything is a risk, a risk we all assumed, provided THE PROGRAM WAS HONEST AND THE FUNDS WERE HANDLED HONESTLY! Most HYIP programs fail for one reason ONLY! They are SCAMS and the money is stolen. They don't fail because they were legitemate and the investments went bad.

Real investments also don't go "bust" over night. Even high yield or high risk investments decay and/or die over time and the losses are seen daily and certainly NOT in only 1 day. My ROL was profitable (supposedly) on August 15, 2005. I can invest in a stock, buy options (the majority expire worthless) or commodities futures (very risky), and if I lose, it was my decision and I am to blame for my loss. If I give money to a brokerage firm or any investing entity and they steal it, I can't be blamed for their immorality and criminal behavior. I can only be blamed for putting too much trust (perhaps foolishly) into that person or entity.

The real risk, regardless of any diclaimer is: Is this program a scam or not. You certainly cannot blame the people who put money into a program for its failure, but you can blame and seek restitution from the operator of the program for incompetance, ineptitude, theft or whatever the case may be.

Investigations may be launched because a few people bit**ed or complained, but authorities DO NOT shut down a company without some merit, and for an investigation to go on this long, something has been found to warrant further investigation. But I guess in your feeble mindset, that too is the fault of the PIPS membership. You're sick to your stomach? Your foolish comments and statements are contemptuous and vomitous!

Agree 1,000,000,000%

Originally Posted by OICU812

Agree 1,000,000,000%

Before agreeing too much on UNFOUNDED statements...

Consider this POSSIBILITY:

PART ONE

WHO is WHO?

WHO had a vision to HELP the needy and the little guy?
WHO started a company to accomplish this?
WHO made the company into a Huge WORLDWIDE membership?
WHO started a LOT of humanitarian aid projects?
WHO helped a lot of people to see a brighter future?
WHO made this into a huge success?

One don't have to guess who's who here...or..

WHO was HIRED to help CONTINUE the success?
WHO was responsible for getting more banks on the line?
WHO was responsible for getting debitcard platforms operational?
WHO was responsible for MANAGING the daily operations?

Did this WHO succeed in his work?

WHO of the above wanted to HELP others?

WHO of the above wanted first and foremost to earn a big profit as fast as possible?

Could there be conflicting interests here?

HOW can one divert the intention of one who first and foremost just want to help as many people in need as possible OVER to the intention of earning a big profit as fast as possible?

THE ANSWER.....YOU CAN'T!!!!!

THEN...what to do?

IS there maybe a way to TAKE OVER the operation????

Maybe if one IN A SECRET way started to sabotage the MONEYFLOW and then blame this on ...you know WHO...don't you!

Just MY OWN thoughts.

All The Best

Largo

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PART TWO

HOW can "the greedy ONE" get more help to sabotage?
( the greedy plotting)
HOW about hiring MY PEOPLE as employees?
HOW can I convince "the generous ONE" to agree on this action?
Well, we ARE expanding, we NEED more people AND we need NEW SERVERS...let's hire some of MY people.
Lets also recommend some of MY people to the CAPITAL COMPANY!!!
Let's see now....
HOW do we proceed?

1.Find some GREEDY people in the BANKS to work with...
2. Have a server crash so we can manipulate the MONEYFLOWS....and then blame it all on "the generous ONE"... he's the one who approves and
signs all transfers anyhow...does'nt he?
3.FIND some supporters to help with the BLAMING.
3.Start a forum for PAYING members only...by MY PEOPLE Outside.
4. Give EXCLUSIVE briefings to this people ONLY.
5.Create havoc in the payment system by implementing FRAUD in volume.
6.With the help of OUR greedy bankpeople, start freezing funds, and compile A SIGNIFICANT 8 FIGURE SUM.
7. Initiate an Investigation of "the generous ONE"....and have him removed from post.
8. In the mean time...start a NEW INVESTMENT SCHEME with the "LOYAL GREEDY PEOPLE" of ours with the help of ...A SIGNIFICANT 8 FIGURE SUM..HE HE HE.

THE OUTCOME

WHAT.....THEY DID'nt ARREST HIM?????

WHAT....ARE THE BANK INVESTIGATING US?????

BBUT...BBUT...BUT....

to be continued....

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It's only MY thoughts...

All The Best

Largo


PART THREE

(The Greedy ONE…talking to his partner… Greedy TOO)

BBUT..BBUT…BUT…

What about our inside people in the investigation?

Well…The Generous ONE is guarding every step they take….maybe he knows?
He does’nt even take a lunch-break!

What went wrong then?

Well…it seems that The Generous ONE has a Secret Agent that is VERY well-connected to the whole financial arena…AND he’s been following our tracks for a while now..

You mean…he’s ON to us?

Well…Not yet…but we have to cover our tracks real good from now on!

HMMMM….HMMMM….

Let’s recapitulate our actions….

Do they know about the FAKED SERVER-CRASH?

I think so….yes!

HMMM…Have they found all of OUR GUYS on staff?

That’s for sure!

What about the offshore transactions-platforms…have they found out about all OUR secret deals I made with them?

I’m not sure…but some of them begin to be really shaky now…AND they want more money in order to shut up!

How about THE SIGNIFICANT 8 FIGURE SUM….have they traced all the flows of it?
NO….I don’t think so….that will for sure take a very long time to do!

PHUUUIII…THAT was good to hear!

BUT…they know about THE SWEDISH CREDIT UNION though….

WHAT….!

Well …it’s in the Swedish Official Register of Associations with all the names of the Board of Directors….anyone can ask for this.

BUT…don’t tell me they know about the IBC connected to the Credit Union we set up to avoid the HIGH taxes of Sweden?

No..No…but some SMART-ASS could fore sure find out about this…

But OUR GREEDY Consultant said this was a SAFE setup…didn’t he?

YES..HE for sure did….

By the way…how is “GreIBy ALSO” handling all the noise in OUR FORUM?

Haa…Haaa…real good actually…he tells them to pay OR take a hike…HE..HE..

Well THAT’s good…that will keep them busy complaining all over the place AND it will also give us the opportunity to BLAME P**P** and The Generous ONE even more….AND THAT FEELS GOOD!

How Is The Greedy RAT the WRITER Doing?

I think he’s hiding…I can’t get hold of him.

Well…it doesn’t look that bad after all…..

We just have to trust OUR PEOPLE in the Investigation….

KNOCK …KNOCK…..

Who’s There?

Open Up!
It’s the GREED TASK FORCE…IS there any GREEDY Children In There?

To be continued….

Just MY OWN Thoughts..

All The Best

Largo