Thread: What Do You Really Feel About Pips

The idea of PIPS is pure genius. And if nothing else were to happen from now on, it has generated in the main THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY of people, with their own ideas, goals, joys, sorrows, and a platform to share, and that is value for money.

As to the genius, the idea of 2% for 180 days and then it ending is the very best part. And the biggest strain for the organisation is the first few years, WHICH WE ARE IN. After a few years when there are probably more expired units than those NOT expired, (after all dead units IS NOT dead money - its still working for PIPS) this makes a solid base for the company, All those units still live for the company, but dead to our ROL - that is the genius. Unfortunately there are those who do not want this to happen and have preyed on the vulnerability of the first few years where the concept is the toughest to actually make work. It is they who are making it tough, which brings the scum to the surface shouting "I want my money, I invested good money and Bryan made a promise, if I don't get whats due to me now, I'll teach you a lesson and bring you down - and call you names etc etc." If only those people would look at themselves in a mirror, and look at what they have done to bring PIPS down, and sow bad seed, and dash the hopes of the people who look at PIPS as a means of "making a change." It would be better for them if a millstone were hanged around their neck and drowned in the depths of the sea.

The PIPS concept is fantastic and Bryan has the guts to make it happen.
The community that has been generated from PIPS in the main is a wonderful community, and that is value for money alone.

Lets try and make this ROL CLUB community a positive club, and a club such as this is one that has a goal. This clubs goal as I see it is one of unity for members to communicate together and bring about the return of PIPS and to stand behind Bryan. That is what I see this club as being. However there are those here who while being a member of the club do not seek or stand behind Bryan, but curse and moan. If this is you, then that is not the spirit of being a club member. There are other clubs for people like you, like talk gold (thats the club where scum attracts scum).

Lets stand up for Bryan and the true PIPS spirit, and lets MAKE IT HAPPEN - all of us.
P I P S

Originally Posted by jimmyfid

i have faith in pips.

Thanks everwiser.... I like this one!

I am with second mouse .. I still have all the faith in the world for
Bryan, It takes time to get things together in a business and all his ducks in a row ... Time yes it is like watching a pot of water boil . I am sure Bryan even finds it slower .

goldeneye

Originally Posted by denim

The idea of PIPS is pure genius. And if nothing else were to happen from now on, it has generated in the main THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY of people, with their own ideas, goals, joys, sorrows, and a platform to share, and that is value for money.

As to the genius, the idea of 2% for 180 days and then it ending is the very best part. And the biggest strain for the organisation is the first few years, WHICH WE ARE IN. After a few years when there are probably more expired units than those NOT expired, (after all dead units IS NOT dead money - its still working for PIPS) this makes a solid base for the company, All those units still live for the company, but dead to our ROL - that is the genius. Unfortunately there are those who do not want this to happen and have preyed on the vulnerability of the first few years where the concept is the toughest to actually make work. It is they who are making it tough, which brings the scum to the surface shouting "I want my money, I invested good money and Bryan made a promise, if I don't get whats due to me now, I'll teach you a lesson and bring you down - and call you names etc etc." If only those people would look at themselves in a mirror, and look at what they have done to bring PIPS down, and sow bad seed, and dash the hopes of the people who look at PIPS as a means of "making a change." It would be better for them if a millstone were hanged around their neck and drowned in the depths of the sea.

The PIPS concept is fantastic and Bryan has the guts to make it happen.
The community that has been generated from PIPS in the main is a wonderful community, and that is value for money alone.

Lets try and make this ROL CLUB community a positive club, and a club such as this is one that has a goal. This clubs goal as I see it is one of unity for members to communicate together and bring about the return of PIPS and to stand behind Bryan. That is what I see this club as being. However there are those here who while being a member of the club do not seek or stand behind Bryan, but curse and moan. If this is you, then that is not the spirit of being a club member. There are other clubs for people like you, like talk gold (thats the club where scum attracts scum).

Lets stand up for Bryan and the true PIPS spirit, and lets MAKE IT HAPPEN - all of us.
P I P S

denim,

I find your post rather scary, for alot of reasons that will probably get me banned. Yes, Pips HAS THE POTENTIAL to be a good idea, the CONCEPT is fantastic, (look up concept) and has the POTENTIAL to DO SOME GOOD if it really worked for people. Apparently it did for a short time. Not for me and my family, or many other families apparently. Is this a moan? Maybe. You will hear alot more moaning in days to come, I guarantee it. It is an INSULT to listen to the self righteous "winners" of Pips who have made money when many of us have waited a year for nothing, having invested alot of money. I would personally love to stand behind Bryan, as you say. He has not as of yet given me a reason to, and I speak for many when I say this. Am I SCUM, as you say? Have I "sown a bad seed" or "dashed others hopes"??? Now a millstone should be torqued on my neck?? have I or those like me dashed anybody's hopes? This is the kind of sick misinterpretive Bible thumping that gives Christians a BAD name, and sir, I am a Christian. A sinner for sure, but a Christian nonetheless. Up to now, I have tried to be positive, understanding, and good humored about all the mishaps of Pips. Sorry, your post made me draw the line in the sand. I think your Bible references made me more upset than anything, really, what right do you have to say these things? We and Bryan are merely Human beings afterall, and Bryan is not the Lord. GACK, as Charlie Brown used to say.

Originally Posted by whatever

I find your post rather scary, for alot of reasons that will probably get me banned.

Nooooooooooo No No, wouldn't want you to be banned. On the face of what you say I can see how you have become hot under the collar, but there was absolutely no intention on my part to have offended your faith.

Originally Posted by whatever

It is an INSULT to listen to the self righteous "winners" of Pips who have made money when many of us have waited a year for nothing, having invested alot of money.

I am one who has gained NOTHING from PIPS as yet, (apart from joining a wonderful community). I see those who HAVE gained as testimonials.

Originally Posted by whatever

Am I SCUM, as you say? Have I "sown a bad seed" or "dashed others hopes"??? Now a millstone should be torqued on my neck?? have I or those like me dashed anybody's hopes?

I don't think that I pointed the finger at you personally. I could say though, "if the cap fits." But - I won't.

Originally Posted by whatever

This is the kind of sick misinterpretive Bible thumping that gives Christians a BAD name, and sir, I am a Christian.

Now just a second, take a deep breath, calm down; I was not Bible thumping, I was not giving a scriptural sermon, preaching or expounding the Bible; What I said was a line lifted from scripture and put into the context of what I WAS SAYING. Now if you look carefully at the original context in the bible; the man who said that line (Jesus) said it to make a point. Now I would think that the same man would be horrified if the listeners to that statement took him literally and took the person to whom he was referring and actually carried out the statement considering it his will. It was the same person who said, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." In short there was no Bible thumping from me, nor giving Christians a bad name. There are many every day quotes and sayings in daily life mostly unknown to people that have their origins in the good book. Their use does not signify Bible thumping.

Originally Posted by whatever

I think your Bible references made me more upset than anything

I am sorry you should feel that way. I didn't mean to upset you, or anyone. The phrase emphasised my opinion, which by my understanding, I am allowed. I don't think I was being offensive. I wasn't being sacrilegious, and like the person who said it originally I would be horrified if this were to actually happen. I would rather they were cast into the lake of fire and the smoke of their torment ascend up for ever and ever and they have no rest day nor night, along with the rest of the Talk Gold forum (Clarification, that latter was a joke - honest - smile ).

Originally Posted by whatever

what right do you have to say these things?

Perhaps you could clarify why I shouldn't!!

Originally Posted by whatever

We and Bryan are merely Human beings afterall, and Bryan is not the Lord. GACK, as Charlie Brown used to say.

Now that is what I like to hear. It saddens me when I see people putting Bryan on a pedestal and virtually worshiping him like a god. Looking to him as their salvation. By all means put him on a pedestal as a pioneer; as someone who does good; as someone to look up to. But not as a god. For God does not give his glory to another.
I repeat - "There was absolutely no intention on my part to have offended your faith." - It is mine also.

To be totally fair I was dismayed when pips went down. I saw it as an avenue of regaining much of what I have lost. I had a house virtually paid for. I had a wife, a life and a good job. When my wife left me I lost everything, my house, my job and everything I owned. I was not even as well off as when I was 16. I have had to start life all over again, and I am now of an age when it is unlikely for me to have a mortgage or acheive the dream of owning my own home. I no longer have the good things I once enjoyed. And working hard, like I have done all my life, I will never reach the height that I enjoyed with my wife whom I love dearly, and miss. I saw pips as a way of regaining some of what I have lost, and so yes - I was disappointed that it went down. In fact my heart sank deeper and deeper as the days have gone on with no visible return. Just before PIPS went down I had started to do two things. I had made an account for my children so they could have a better life. And I had started my first withdrawal. The one thing I won't do is give up. Yes the event's of the past few months have been a knock on the head, but Bryan hasn't given up, and as long as he doesn't give up on PIPS, neither will I. I would love to do for people what Bryan has done, I wouldn't have a clue where to start, so I admire the guy. He had an idea, and put it into action. If you read his posts you will find that it seems to be the greedy ones who have caused all the problems. And there is nothing any of us can do, but to wait for the outcome. After which, Bryan has promised a long explanation. For me the lotto has no interest, I just wait patiently for the return of PIPS in whatever form it takes, and I think it will be back. None of us have any choice but to wait, and moaning about it achieves nothing. If PIPS comes good, all well and good. If not - so be it.

Take care

Denim.
You are wrong about the dead units not being dead money. I started with $100 then six months later added $300, when PIPs closed my account was about $100,000 plus a lot more that I stasrted for my kids and family I'm confident that the total will be more than $200,000 if and when (which I have doubts) PIPs comes back in any form.
Now all the "kool-aid crew" can flame away...................

Clifton

Originally Posted by jaybug

Denim.
You are wrong about the dead units not being dead money. I started with $100 then six months later added $300, when PIPs closed my account was about $100,000 plus a lot more that I stasrted for my kids and family I'm confident that the total will be more than $200,000 if and when (which I have doubts) PIPs comes back in any form.
Now all the "kool-aid crew" can flame away...................

Clifton

Starting with $100 is very interesting, what programme were you in? As I recall $450 was the minimum to start. Divided into $25 units.

That aside, you are saying that DEAD UNITS is DEAD MONEY. And in some respect you are right. As far as your own personal account is concerned then after 180 days you lose the unit and the interest it makes, and your account is decreased accordingly. But during the 180 days of it's life in YOUR account it's working away making much more than $25 in the period. I think it was something like 52 days and it paid for itself, and everything after that is profit, and every time a new $25 accumulates you are awarded a new unit with it that again lasts 180 till it expires. (OK basically put, but there were fees etc). However its only an exercise in maths to determine the actual returns to the those who loan.

NOW when the $25 unit expires, what do you think happens to it? Does it go puff in a cloud of smoke and suddenly the $25 is no more? Is it put in the bin? Does Bryan burn it? NO it doesn't disappear - IT STILL EXISTS but it is no longer working exclusively for your account. But it's children are. The $25 unit that has expired STILL EXISTS. What the expired unit is doing is working it's merry little ass off supplementing the 2% system

IF there were no expiration of units the get get rich quick capacity would be far greater, but UNSUSTAINABLE. There is no way in the world that 2% can be made continually on an ongoing basis on the whole amount indefinitely - it would collapse. I think that Bryan said (if I remember correctly) that the true rate of interest on the global whole is sustainable at 0.6% per day, but in actual fact the company was making more than that. 0.6% on the global whole is the minimum required to sustain the 2% on the LIVE units.

On a basic level of just $450 start (425) and reinvest at 100%. If you started with 7 units (the minimum) By 2 years you will have 51122 Units all worth $25 each. HOWEVER during the same 2 year period you will have accredited 58969 Units, but after the 180th Day till the end of 24 Months 7847 Units will have expired - THIS IS THE IMPORTANT BIT - it is the dead units working away which over time will always increase as the years go on AND the live units working away TOGETHER compounding at an interest of FAR LESS THAN 2% which makes the 2% for the live units achievable, and WORKABLE.

The toughest period for the programme is the early years, and that is probably why there is the problem now because SOME did not have patience. The older the program gets the more DEAD UNITS there are working away and so the stronger the company becomes.

So many people fail to grasp that without the DEAD UNIT concept the 2% for the LIVE UNIT would be unachievable.

I WAS AT THE SEMINAR WHERE BRYAN EXPLAINED THIS, LIKE THIS

Now you were saying:- "You are wrong about the dead units not being dead money.".............. ("I'm listening." As they say on the radio in Seattle).

Originally Posted by denim

Starting with $100 is very interesting, what programme were you in? As I recall $450 was the minimum to start. Divided into $25 units.

The 2% program existed before PIPS. I started with $25.

Why do we have to bring God and the Bible into our discussions?

I have belief in both, however this is a secular business like all others.

I have been associated with Bryans businesses for some years.

When things have gone quiet from his end, a pattern emerges.

People cannot just wait, they write all sorts of rubbish and get other people going.

This time is no different.

As he has done before Bryan will be back.

Originally Posted by denim

The idea of PIPS is pure genius. And if nothing else were to happen from now on, it has generated in the main THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY of people, with their own ideas, goals, joys, sorrows, and a platform to share, and that is value for money.

Lets stand up for Bryan and the true PIPS spirit, and lets MAKE IT HAPPEN - all of us.
P I P S

what's that behind you denim?... it's the pips community!