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    Quote Originally Posted by jaytee
    Everwiser, This name of yours is not just a 'nom de plume'. It is so accurate.You are ever wiser.I agree with what you say and how you say it !00%. It's the simple truth of the situation. Although I have posted 5 or 6 times, I think, in reality I'm one of 'the silent majority most of whom I suspect recognise what you say as the truth of the matter. I'm sorry for those who have found themselves in a difficult situation but you know Pips was and still is in its infancy.One should never put all of their eggs in one basket. I'm covinced Pips is coming back and sometime this year, so cheer up. Your day will come.
    Words of no value - because it may only be in your own idea and your hope and wishes - causes thiss stress issue. Do you sit with some info we others do not yet know of? If you have no info - why try to illude us with your ideas? The fact is still out there in the "blue" - and you may not have realiced that - YET!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ole_mats
    Words of no value - because it may only be in your own idea and your hope and wishes - causes thiss stress issue. Do you sit with some info we others do not yet know of? If you have no info - why try to illude us with your ideas? The fact is still out there in the "blue" - and you may not have realiced that - YET!
    It is called "HOPE", ole. There is no secret information behind it; only the reassurances of Bryan and others on this forum. All will be answered in its own time...

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    Default You must be kidding

    Quote Originally Posted by everwiser
    It is called "HOPE", ole. There is no secret information behind it; only the reassurances of Bryan and others on this forum. All will be answered in its own time...
    Thise words seems to be more of a prophecy than a individual spelled hope!

    Quote Originally Posted by jaytee
    It's the simple truth of the situation. ....... but you know Pips was and still is in its infancy. I'm covinced Pips is coming back and sometime this year, so cheer up. Your day will come.
    Look at it - are you blinded by his:
    Quote Originally Posted by jaytee
    Everwiser, This name of yours is not just a 'nom de plume'. It is so accurate.You are ever wiser.I agree with what you say and how you say it !00%. It's the simple truth of the situation.
    You got your kredit my friend.

    Let us wait to we know - and when we know; let us tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everwiser
    Obviously there are too many people on here that do not understand the meaning of the word "risk". Here it is for anyone who cares: Risk- hazard: a source of danger; a possibility of incurring loss or misfortune; a venture undertaken without regard to possible loss or injury; expose to a chance of loss or damage; gamble: take a risk in the hope of a favorable outcome...

    Based upon the definition(s) of risk, how were you (or any of us) "supposed to" to get a particular return or "promised" a particular return? The words I quoted don't fit with the work "risk". The words "could" or "possibly" do, but not "supposed to" or "promised".

    The sad thing is that there are entirely too many people on here that believe they were "supposed to" or were "promised". If you go to a stock broker and put your money with them, they aren't going to promise/guarantee you a thing except that they are "trying" to increase your stake. Many of these same people are the ones that ended up causing the eventual seizure and ceasing of operations because of their complaints (to various authorities) that they didn't get what they felt they were "supposed to" get or "promised" to get when, in actuality, they were only told that it was a "risk" but that they "could" get the returns illustrated (if things went well).
    You are way off base. Risk is what may happen in the market that would cause us not to get our return and possiblly lose our investment. Risk is not that some Bank is going to close you down and investigate your activities. I have said this before, if BN has frozen the accounts and BM is under investigation that is fine. When the investigation is over with so is the freeze on the accounts. BM then has the money and the abiltiy to provide us our funds. They can only abscond the money if it is illegal. So BM is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippyman
    Remember Enron? I thought that was supposed to be a legitimate company? It was registered with the SEC and the blessings of many in the current US administration and all the golden trappings......
    Your not comparing P**PS to Enron............Everyone from Enron is either in jail or being processed in the justice system to go to jail.Sorry Pippy, bad comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sopranos
    Your not comparing P**PS to Enron............Everyone from Enron is either in jail or being processed in the justice system to go to jail.Sorry Pippy, bad comparison.
    The final outcome of the investigation may very well lead to the same thing
    for the management of Pips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sopranos
    Your not comparing P**PS to Enron............Everyone from Enron is either in jail or being processed in the justice system to go to jail.Sorry Pippy, bad comparison.
    Pippyman was not comparing the two to imply wrongdoing by Bryan/Pips. His comparison was about how everyone thought Enron was a "guaranteed" return and a "no way to lose" investment. Enron ended up destroying many lives and careers and won't "be back". Pips will be back in one form or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drymartini
    Pippyman brings up a very good point. For all of the ones that are reading
    the posts from the complainers it will serve all of us well to remember that
    it was these types that intentionally and maliciously brought PIPS to where
    it is now. Not Bryan.
    Plus a few members who thought they should be paid ahead of you and me, who wrote a letter to BN asking for their intervention and offering their services as new administration for Pips.

    These guys helped to steal your hopes also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundancer270
    Risk is not that some Bank is going to close you down and investigate your activities. I have said this before, if BN has frozen the accounts and BM is under investigation that is fine. When the investigation is over with so is the freeze on the accounts. BM then has the money and the abiltiy to provide us our funds. They can only abscond the money if it is illegal. So BM is it?
    Risk is risk, period. In this case the risk became reality due to insiders and outsiders filing complaints with the various banks and authorities. This came about by the delay in payments that was caused by HSBC pulling itself out of Pips money-line. They closed Pips accounts due to people saying Pips was a scam EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE WERE GETTING PAID. This happened just as membership and withdraws were "ramping up" which exacerbated the problem and caused even more complaints.

    All of this has been discussed and poured over many times; you obviously just don't want to see it. As far as the Pips funds being absconded with, it's not going to happen. Bryan has said we would not lose out...Why not wait a little longer for the answers he has promised? Once he can get everyone's account info back and determine who is owed what I think that everyone will get their due. Go back and study if you haven't been able to find the information I have related to you; it's all right here on this very forum.

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    Everwiser, Thank you for making a response to Ole Mats' criticism of my earlier post. I really was a little surprised by his evaluation of my comments. He said, in part, and I quote him exactly as he said: "Do you sit with some info we others do not yet know of? If you have no info - why try to illude us with your ideas?" ...... What I said was "....I'm convinced Pips is coming back and sometime this year......." and yes it was, as you said, a statementof HOPE. But it was based on what Bryan himself has said in some of his relatively recent posts and not some unfounded thought born from a lonely seed in my brain. Thanks again
    Hugh Logan-Smith

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