Thread: How Many People Lost Money on the Net Since PIPS went down????

newlife and soaringeagle,

You guys are the type of people who give us average PIPS supporters the cult-follower reputation. There is nothing wrong with diversification, and no Billy is not a member of some secret anti-pips alliance. To say that he and Tex are dishonest is quite frankly pure jealous bullshit being spouted by a couple of extremely deluded people. I don't know what else was offered by BTI as I am not nor have I ever been a member, but the credit union will prove a good investment for those who know how to recognize a real opportunity, or who were lucky enough to come across it. I dont invest in any type of MLM or HYIP schemes so I wouldnt know what to say about any other program endorsed by BTI - but from what ive heard I wouldnt recommend them.

Its absolutely pathetic how aggressive and jealous some people become when they see others succeeding.

As for the other scams mentioned, well I think the problem is people are too enthusiastic. Wait for the opportunities to present themselves that you really truly feel can change your life, and then perform the proper DD to make sure it has a good chance of succeeding. Make sure it is planning to go private in the not-so-distant future. Find and speak with those who have already been researching it and talk with the principal(s), find out what their motives are. Look at the track record of both the program/company and the people responsible for it. Make sure your gut is telling you to go for it. Most importantly stay away from anything that labels itself an HYIP/Cycler/Doubler/ or anything similar and personally I stay away from MLM and anything similar to that as well, though this works for some people. One very important point is to make sure the company is not advertising themselves to the HYIP community. The HYIP community is considered to be a huge source of suckers for the would-be scammers wanting to start an HYIP. Make sure you arent being offered anything without an explanation as to how it can be achieved, then dig for proof. This is what I do and so far PIPS is the only mistake I have made, although I still believe it will come through in the end.

Trade

I never knew there were so many scams out there and that people just send $. Whatever happened to investing your money in actual investments??? Maybe something with some transparency perhaps... There are very good performing investments out there that are regulated by gov't bodies.

I'll admit, I got into PIPS and the dreams just started flowing. But, to keep sending money to online programs and expect a different result may be what some call insane.

Actually I think that fits perfectly with the definition of insanity, brownsfan.

I agree, I tell everyone who I talk to in person who is interested in online investing to stay as far away as possible. Most people will be immediately attracted to the scams, and they wont know what hit them until its too late. It takes years of making the right contacts and connections and researching what is real and what is imaginary, to finally be able to succeed, and for the vast majority this never happens. Some get lucky, but most end up losing more than they can afford or ever planned on losing. I hate it but its just the way this arena works.

Trade

Originally Posted by Tradewinds

newlife and soaringeagle,

You guys are the type of people who give us average PIPS supporters the cult-follower reputation. There is nothing wrong with diversification, and no Billy is not a member of some secret anti-pips alliance. To say that he and Tex are dishonest is quite frankly pure jealous bullshit being spouted by a couple of extremely deluded people. I don't know what else was offered by BTI as I am not nor have I ever been a member, but the credit union will prove a good investment for those who know how to recognize a real opportunity, or who were lucky enough to come across it. I dont invest in any type of MLM or HYIP schemes so I wouldnt know what to say about any other program endorsed by BTI - but from what ive heard I wouldnt recommend them.

Its absolutely pathetic how aggressive and jealous some people become when they see others succeeding.......................


Trade

You are totally wrong.

First I have only reading privilege at BTI since they cut me off not paying $10/ mo. By only reading (you can too ,and get proof), I am getting sick how those people make fun of PIPS and Bryan.

I do not care if they diversified and make money and I am not jealous, so do not give me that crap.

I only want point out that they turn backs to Bryan when he needs support by all of us in this hard time.

Knowing situation from beginning, I never trusted Billy. He choose to side with GN and WW instead verified things with Bryan. Sure is that at beginning Bryan did not figure GN intentions but things will surface sooner or later.

In other hand I feel sorry starting this comment and open can of worms.

Just forget and lets keep concentrating on our issues.

Trade.....I dont know Billy personally at all and to be quite honest, I have ZERO desire to.....but I will tell you this much....there are quite a few folks out there in cyber-land that 'dislike' Billy just as much as you 'like' him..........so he must not be "all that and a bowl of biscuits", something to ponder on a bit.

Only program I lost money in is PIPS. All my others are paying me. I guess I won't say the obvious.

Originally Posted by Style

Trade.....I dont know Billy personally at all and to be quite honest, I have ZERO desire to.....but I will tell you this much....there are quite a few folks out there in cyber-land that 'dislike' Billy just as much as you 'like' him..........so he must not be "all that and a bowl of biscuits", something to ponder on a bit.

There are alot more in cyber-land that dislike bryan. So what is your point here?

So spidey - what program do you run? I'm sure it would be an interesting read and, what forums do you visit? I can only guess.

Personally my money is on Bryan and NOTHING else. There are a few surfing programs that work 12Daily, 50Cent so far and Studio Traffic. Nothing else on the net is worth a hill of c*ap. Even if its paying today, its gone tomorrow. And the admins know how to post b.s. to get everyone worked up. That's how the reel the suckers in. Yes, and true- anything posted on a HYIP monitoring site is there as a lure - reel em in and get their cash. Simple as that.

The net has become a prime playground for criminals and quite frankly I'm not paying one more red cent to any of them.

I'll stick with PIPS.

BB.

Originally Posted by brotherbear

So spidey - what program do you run? I'm sure it would be an interesting read and, what forums do you visit? I can only guess.

Personally my money is on Bryan and NOTHING else. There are a few surfing programs that work 12Daily, 50Cent so far and Studio Traffic. Nothing else on the net is worth a hill of c*ap. Even if its paying today, its gone tomorrow. And the admins know how to post b.s. to get everyone worked up. That's how the reel the suckers in. Yes, and true- anything posted on a HYIP monitoring site is there as a lure - reel em in and get their cash. Simple as that.

The net has become a prime playground for criminals and quite frankly I'm not paying one more red cent to any of them.

I'll stick with PIPS.

BB.

YOU GO BROTHERBEAR ! YOU ARE SO RIGHT !!!!!!!!!

I guess the simple truth is that our perspective is our reality and we all have different perspectives on all of this. In my opinion this 'us and them' mentality that many PIPS members seem to bolster is extremely unproductive and more to the point, downright destructive.

I don't 'like' Billy. I don't even know the man personally. All i'm saying is that I have no reason to believe he has ever had any agenda other than protecting the best interest of his members. To accuse him of anything else is to align yourself with a paranoid and destructive thought pattern, in my opinion. Everyone seems to want to make something of nothing and find a reason for PIPS collapse.

Why accuse people of 'betraying' PIPS when they are just trying to better thier own life in other ways? Guess how much money those who have relied completely on PIPS in the last year have made? Absolutely nothing. Those who participated in other programs didn't betray PIPS, rather they were true to themselves.

By the way, I am not supporting BTI which I have had to state numerous times on this board when arguing with the extremists. I don't know the mentality at their forum and I dont care! Alot of people feel they have lost alot of money with PIPS and are upset, I don't blame them one bit. I choose to support Bryan Marsden, but that is my choice to make.

Trade