Thread: How Many People Lost Money on the Net Since PIPS went down????

Originally Posted by Admin

may i ask what this means --->lmao?

lmao = laughing my a*** off.

haven't been scammed YET by any company... could happen though! :)

I wait

I have to laugh when you guys talk about "diversify".
To me, (at least, in my experience) diversify means diversifying the ways of losing money!
Can you guess that I have not made a single penny in ANY internet program over the past 5 years? Maybe I am dumb, but mostly just unlucky.
I lost many thousands in programs that WERE paying for a very long time, and by my bad luck they all tanked just after I dumped MY money into them!
And unless PIPS comes back, it will be the same story. Since we know that PIPS had been paying, you can see where my problem is just bad luck

Originally Posted by joecap

I have to laugh when you guys talk about "diversify".
To me, (at least, in my experience) diversify means diversifying the ways of losing money!
Can you guess that I have not made a single penny in ANY internet program over the past 5 years? Maybe I am dumb, but mostly just unlucky.
I lost many thousands in programs that WERE paying for a very long time, and by my bad luck they all tanked just after I dumped MY money into them!
And unless PIPS comes back, it will be the same story. Since we know that PIPS had been paying, you can see where my problem is just bad luck

Sorry,

I hate to hear people who have had a string of bad luck, and yes, I do believe in luck, the luck to get in at the right time, and out at the right time, it really is about luck. Timing is everthing, and the one lesson I learned a long time ago is that luck comes to those who stay the course. Most fail a dozen times before becoming wealthy, so don't give up, there are plenty of opportunities that do pay off big, just don't stop looking, and yes, diversify, it reduces your odds of losing all the time.

Good luck to all, Mike

can ANYBODY name a program that hasnt or isnt going to collapse??? point made

Originally Posted by joecap

I have to laugh when you guys talk about "diversify".
To me, (at least, in my experience) diversify means diversifying the ways of losing money!
Can you guess that I have not made a single penny in ANY internet program over the past 5 years? Maybe I am dumb, but mostly just unlucky.
I lost many thousands in programs that WERE paying for a very long time, and by my bad luck they all tanked just after I dumped MY money into them!
And unless PIPS comes back, it will be the same story. Since we know that PIPS had been paying, you can see where my problem is just bad luck

joecap!

I have diversified since I entered the field of financial investments more than 20 years ago, ...but apart from PIPS I have not invested a cent in other Internet programs. More than 95% of Internet programs are scams or simply not sustainable. Be very conservative and do your DD twice as much and long as you do compared to the "in-the-box" financial instrumants like, stocks, forex, commodities, mutual funds etc.
I have turned down at least 20 Internet prospects since PIPS. My first and foremost requirements before I INVEST are: A physical business location with management that are visible and reachable. Then I consider the business concept and business model. Again, more than 90% of all of them stinks!...they can simply not survive due to their "I will give you the world" promises. My next two important requirements are: (1) how long have the investors been paid and (2) may I talk to at least five happy investors.
By following those simple DD-requirements, more than 90% of business prospects will fail to pass!

My advise is to simply be patient, wait for the right time!...it could take years between the diamonds. Mine is presently a very successful business that I started in 1998. An Internet business that have more than 2 millions paid users and very profitable,...so I am patiently waiting for the right investor that strategically want to own or integrate my "diamond".

I wish you good luck with your future investments!

hine

yes but we cant say in public there are things that work.

I have lost with GFOFS and Expinvest also.

Originally Posted by discus

And you guys are still waiting on the money that Brian scammed off of you. You have all lost the money in Pips. And if you still believe in Pips, then how can you claim that people have lost money in other program when they still believe the Admins will return?

You can't. You in Pips and people in other programs have both lost money. You still don't realize that Pips is a SCAM.

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Dear discus
You are just Braine midget from TG forum.Get back in cave.
But have nice day

would truly appreciate your feedback on this email - & more than anything forward this information on to HYIPers who you know otherwise these criminals will keep getting rich and we will keep getting stung)

Here is an excerpt so you will see exactly what I am talking about…

“As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the biggest and "most reliable" (LOOOOL) one!”



Now for the whole post…

Dear Invex Ltd. Players,

This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from us...
until we open our next HYIP
We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after us.
Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.


1- The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really
nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones

2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the
sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a new
laptop, installed some fresh programs.

3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the
account, and got a nice true debit card.

4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.

5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by... you, *****s who
"invested"


OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without
possibility to track us. A major question was "Must we open a real company".
We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe all what they
read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are
pure fantasy


Okay, let's go to work now!


1- Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal scammers'
best place, paying with e-gold.

2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with... the debit card
coming from the bank account above

3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from.... an e-gold
exchanger The gold came from YOU *****s who "invested" !


To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly recommend
you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc.
You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing

chained between servers who cannot track them.
And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this nice
appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the computers were
given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically deleted


Other pros say "Let's track the money"! Great idea, but don't forget that
even the bastard muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special services



How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That's easy, thanks to mygcard
who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us
used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash
in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no "$800/day limits", and
telling us how to use the cards at the best. Well, Alain tried to scam us
later, but that is another story

We also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no problem at
all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank accounts in Panama,
the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and the US Track the
money there, dear friends!

Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and where a
bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he "verifies
ALL data" from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly offered him 2%
more "to preserve our privacy" Look at our dialogue by email:

- HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don't want to
work with scammers.

- US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just
want to keep a low profile.

- HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee
instead of the regular 2%.


Thank you mister G. ))



As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the
biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try

to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy
them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the
best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the
biggest and "most reliable" (LOOOOL) one!

Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help poor
and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some
"political" associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the
Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and the
balance is for us.

We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of them,
and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a few years,
and all is working fine!


But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it QUICKLY!
Look: [email protected] made $6,580 profit with us, including the
commissions they got by sending YOU *****S, to Invex. These people are
really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!


As a clever guy told in some forum, "there were no guarantees, so no need to
cry". YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless Titanium plans,
and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your forum, try to guess
why...!), we even recommended those who ask for guarantees to go to their
local bank They didn't? THEIR CHOICE!

When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you were
already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems that you
don't understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you continue to
"invest" here and there, and that is good... FOR US! For you, I am not sure
When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the "Andrewunknown", proudly saying that he

lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover from other HYIP, WE ARE
LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover in his list of "no ponzi",
LOL, some of them are from us ))))


Now some personal messages:


- [email protected] threatened us to send "the FBI and the CIA against us"
) better you keep your energy to work and recover your $600 ONLY that you
sent us, than saying such BS )))


- "AROBASE", "LUCIEN", "IGOR": YOU will be refunded partially, we contacted
you some hours ago.

- "vanderschalk-group" is a clever guy: He made about $45k profit from Invex


- "ANATOLI" is the best one: he made about $170k profit from Invex, even
with what we kept from him when we closed!

- lewisfargo, caro, anhvn06, ydna, janhkok, profitondemand, HIPsyD, promax,
brewmanau, adtype13sg, , Johnnyslide, etc etc are also in big profit
(Between $10k and $50k) from Invex.

Feel free to find and contact them to ask to share ))


Well that's all, folks! We are anyway in touch with a few of you through
other HYIP, under other names of course! Good luck


Shalom!
Renaud, Kathy, Oliver, David.



PS. This mail has been sent from an internet public place, using a notebook
setup with a false MAC address, a wifi connection, and we connect through an
encrypted connection that involves JAP and TORR. Good luck to track us


Trying to inform everyone
Be careful everyone!!
Ripitup