Thread: Dear nelsonlee, nair, or anybody that have FACTS!

Originally Posted by spongebob

Originally Posted by dr_dream

Dear jdigi1000, spongebob, kermit ++

Originally Posted by owejac

Dear nelsonlee, nair, or anybody that have FACTS.
Those who have only speculations please do not reply to this tread.
I hope we can gather some more FACTS here.

And then you start to speculate/assume that Warren has his own agenda and greedy, hateful goal!? Plz! Warren was a most trustful member. He held/invited friends and family to meetings. Bryan himself wanted him to join the administration.

And when he discovered PIPS in a bad condition he tried to warn his boss, then his friends (internal email) and finally his fellow Aussies in their forum. He's concerned (as all of us) and he does have a slice of 'internal' knowledge (as the most of us don't). Why speculate? Why make histories about Warren's agenda?

His advice to move funds from PIPS to PicPay is the most logical thing to do in this situation. Should it be a trap? Just to show the bank that there wasn't enough money to fund the WT's and the numbers at the screen? Well - if it's not - then I'll be glad to know NOW. Not to be held in the dark for one more year. If PIPS can't make its profit - then let us know!

Cut the crap. And for you owejac; sorry for using your thread to fight back rumours.

:roll:

Then why is there an agenda for Warren to run PIPS himself?
If his agenda is to take over Bryan's company, Is that not greed?
Why does he not open his own?

Sorry mate but I have not met Warren, but I have met Bryan twice, and I can tell you that it will take 1000 Warrens to come up to what Bryan stands for!

So my money and my support remains firmly on Bryan!

And should both Warren and Bryan start another program tomorrow, you can bet i will join Bryan immediately, but will discard Warren's.
Credibility you earn, you do not buy or steal!

s/bob
PI member since July 2002

Don't twist this. I support Bryan. That's not the topic. But when owejack want facts - and you start to assume that Warren has another agenda... something hidden... Or a plain take-over. Then please give us some evidence - or else it's not worth anything. Not here. If Warren has stated that he want to take control - and fire BM, then of course... But I really haven't seen Warren post anything like that. ok?

It's not about who you or I find the most trustworthy or who we think has the best abilities to run PIPS. It's about facts vs speculations.

Thank you.

:( first thing i thought of when i heard about pips last year was "its impossible". if pips was a fake, brian would have made a "runner" when the payments stopped. he didnt. to me, that adds to his credibility. a man that would cheat so much would not show his own face so often to thousands of people, knowing that he runs the risk of being targeted by these same people if he did run.

the second thing i thought, how is the bank mafia going to react to something incredible like this? when it really takes off, all private pension insurances will be a miserable investment in comparison. why should i keep money in a bank account that wont even give the 2% a year, after all the costs are deducted?

and that is, my dear friends, what i think has been partially happening. a lot of the tg members are people hired to create havoc, so that p*** will end. banks would loose too much. :evil:

Originally Posted by Tasha27

:( first thing i thought of when i heard about pips last year was "its impossible". if pips was a fake, brian would have made a "runner" when the payments stopped. he didnt. to me, that adds to his credibility. a man that would cheat so much would not show his own face so often to thousands of people, knowing that he runs the risk of being targeted by these same people if he did run.

the second thing i thought, how is the bank mafia going to react to something incredible like this? when it really takes off, all private pension insurances will be a miserable investment in comparison. why should i keep money in a bank account that wont even give the 2% a year, after all the costs are deducted?

and that is, my dear friends, what i think has been partially happening. a lot of the tg members are people hired to create havoc, so that p*** will end. banks would loose too much. :evil:

Quite! 8)

owejac, in order to recognize the facts, you have to be able to tunnel through the speculation. The only way to tunnel through the speculation is to look at everything that has happend and begin to connect the dots.

Look at all of the facts that have occurred with Bryan, PIPS, Warren, Owen and others, etc, to begin connecting the dots. Compare and contrast. Ask yourself questions why things have happend the way they have and then research with a "fine-tooth" comb. You will start seeing the puzzle begin to come together and that the questions that you have do have answers.

Suzanna started a very good thread entitled, "Updated Facts, Probable Facts, Speculation and Prediction."

Originally Posted by champ

owejac, in order to recognize the facts, you have to be able to tunnel through the speculation. The only way to tunnel through the speculation is to look at everything that has happend and begin to connect the dots.

Look at all of the facts that have occurred with Bryan, PIPS, Warren, Owen and others, etc, to begin connecting the dots. Compare and contrast. Ask yourself questions why things have happend the way they have and then research with a "fine-tooth" comb. You will start seeing the puzzle begin to come together and that the questions that you have do have answers.

Suzanna started a very good thread entitled, "Updated Facts, Probable Facts, Speculation and Prediction."

Champ, my fellow BTI members will say that you are a poster after my own heart! "Connecting the dots" is my favorite analogy and I am known tehre as the dot lady. LOL

And if you can sort out any other facts for me, let me know! The more discernment and analysis, the better!!

sorry nair, i just dont understand what you're saying.
so let me ask you straight:
DO YOU BELIEVE PIC-PAY IS BACKED BY GOLD IN AUSTRALIA LIKE IT SAID ON THEIR WEBSITE?
please, just a yes or no.

Originally Posted by nair

Do you all think a payment processor will be approved by the central Bank without any back-ups ?

Think need not frustrate?

next one question? do u think a back-up in australia will be permitted to open up a payment processor in malaysia.

One thing the central bank will never allow a payment processor without a back-up to operate within their jurisdiction.

The thing that makes the issues were the funds in movement with picpay and several internal issues within their jurisdiction.

so got the point now tuppence .


ever friendly
swami nair

Originally Posted by tuppence

sorry nair, i just dont understand what you're saying.
so let me ask you straight:

I could swear you asked Nair that several days ago. Therefore, maybe you should be aware that you asking a question does not automatically entitle you to an answer. And if somebody chooses not to answer you, you continuing to ask is what's known as "badgering" *very rude*.

most people agree that nair is in the know.
that's why i ask him a straight question.
unfortunately i NEVER get a straight answer.
inc., of course, "i dont want to answer you"
all i get is some cryptic message that makes no sense.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

It made sense to me. Gotta get your filters cleaned out I guess...

Right, Suzanna. :D