Thread: Nov 24 for re-mention of BM's case

As we move forward and progress to improve, terms that were already expressed may have taken place and again, needs time to amend and adjust as we pursue forward.

Your point is taken Chin-Lee and it will be heeded/proven as we move ahead.

I don't see how we can achieve that by being bias but bear with me, it is with all interests and appreciation that time is needed to give EVERYONE the time to realise and to refrain from uncallous terminologies thrown at fellow members!

I'm giving EVERYONE the time needed to remove or edit their posts and not being draconian with immediate effect just to prove a goal is needed with an immediate implementation immediately put in force.

Bryan was and I still believe, is allowed to access ROLClub should he then decides (for MANY awaits to hear his side of the version once he is released....) if and when, of course.



To all following this thread, just cool down with your irate feelings and tempers (most can relate to your angers thus far) and resume ....less those undesirable words however "twisted" and beautified it may all appear...



YB. - cheers and lets amend, compose astutely for better tidings ahead...

I have seen BM himself using foul language in the Pips forum more than once, then people were all going YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by chin-lee

So if I call you a SCUMBAG, which fits right, than is OK by rules.

That would be borderline, verging on the not allowed in my opinion. Insults are not allowed to other forum members. Saying "Scumbag" is the same as saying "*****, moron, stupid" etc. It is not foul language, however.
-Nej

Didn't Bryan shit can this forum when he was found out and realized that it wasn't about to let his lies take more of the forum members monies?? When it was working his way he loved this forum didn't he, trying to pry Roloclub members from a few more dollars with his stupid lotto or matrix programs. This was fertile ground for Bryans's future Scams

Bryan , isn't just another forum member, he is what the forum is about. I would never personally insult another member, hopefully, i am not perfect i can say stupid things, but Bryan, by being what this forum is about has a completely different standard than member to member stupid insults like you see at TG which I hope doesn't happen here,. he and his actions are the central theme of this entire thread. .

This quy stole from those who believed in him,trusted him, he lied to fill his own pockets, BILLIONS ARE MISSING , THAT IS BILLIONS............ he left many, 10's of thousands without there savings, while apparently transferring MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS TO HIS PERSONAL ACCOUNTS, leaving all of the devoted with out any hope, their dreams crushed.


Maybe the definition of SCUMBAG ought to be changed to read BRYAN MARSDEN..... in all dictionaries

Any PIPSters from Washington state?

Marsden NEVER had control of BILLIONS, he aint that good at it, no matter what some think. And as has been proven.....he aint that smart either.

$20 - 30 million maybe, but certainly not Billions.

Originally Posted by GHAdmin

Marsden NEVER had control of BILLIONS, he aint that good at it, no matter what some think. And as has been proven.....he aint that smart either.

$20 - 30 million maybe, but certainly not Billions.

I still have the forum cutting taken from the old url.The numbers on a screen reached 3 Billion unbelievable !

Originally Posted by chin-lee

If you would know and comply to attics than you would give warning to Boatman first and rest that used such a type of words toward other members. Bryan is a member of this forum and I do not appreciate others are attacking him without any proof. As Mod you should not me sided only to once that you like. Rules are rules, unless Marek lost control of it.

Chin-lee,

Bryan may have an account on Rolclub, but given that he is in prison, he cannot be classified as a member in any real sense of the word anymore. A member would be on here, posting. This is something he cannot do.

I did not notice any insults from Boatman, but please be assured that all members will be moderated equally.

I think from now on, as this is causing a bit of unrest, that we should ALL refrain from calling BM a scumbag, regardless of personal opinion. It isn't a nice word and whilst many believe he is deserving of such a title, others don't and we do need to respect each others opinions until the trial is settled.

Is that fair, chin-lee?

Originally Posted by GHAdmin

Marsden NEVER had control of BILLIONS, he aint that good at it, no matter what some think. And as has been proven.....he aint that smart either.

$20 - 30 million maybe, but certainly not Billions.

Very true..but he owes by way of his Pips, " investment" vehicle .... billions.

Originally Posted by nej

Chin-lee,

Bryan may have an account on Rolclub, but given that he is in prison, he cannot be classified as a member in any real sense of the word anymore. A member would be on here, posting. This is something he cannot do.

I did not notice any insults from Boatman, but please be assured that all members will be moderated equally.

I think from now on, as this is causing a bit of unrest, that we should ALL refrain from calling BM a scumbag, regardless of personal opinion. It isn't a nice word and whilst many believe he is deserving of such a title, others don't and we do need to respect each others opinions until the trial is settled.

Is that fair, chin-lee?

I agree and it would be fair as you said, as long all members show respect to anyone including Bryan since he is not as of this date found guilty of anything except charged by prosecutor based of some BNM findings which yet to be cleared in time to come.

It is amusing how people react in anger to situation just because money stop flowing in their hands knowing that is NOT Bryans fault. Nobody proved as of this date anything that he personally was responsible for this mess.
PIPS is business with risk and was clearly stated as such from first day, so if anyone jumped and put money in without considering of consequences, how is this Bryan's fault?
Any intelligent person would do planing for the worst same as any investment or business transition in world, regardless how business is planed and projected.

Some members are naive in decision thinking to get rich over night, and spend money that could not afford to loose.

Good example was with me when I got promised job with high potentials from owner and he lay to me all possible future bonus and salary structure that made me to invest my interest taking that position and leaving already good paid job.Than six months later his business went sour and I lost a job due that condition.
Do I need to blame owner for my lost? I made decision in first place and I learn from it. That wrong decision cost me a lot.

What I try to say, we can't blame Bryan for anything personally. Conditions that Pips was put in created a lot of problems. We did not give Bryan chance to solve problems, instead all jumped and made attack creating even worst for everybody.

Now we need to wait till court solves problems for us and is shame that will take much longer than we wanted.

Personally I do not think that we lost anything yet, just a time, and we have only left to be patience.

I know I will be attacked by angry mobs in contradiction but that would not help solved problem. We need to except reality regardless how we feel.

Old Chinese saying is "You can cover yourselves only as long as your blanket length".

Originally Posted by chin-lee

I agree and it would be fair as you said, as long all members show respect to anyone including Bryan since he is not as of this date found guilty of anything except charged by prosecutor based of some BNM findings which yet to be cleared in time to come.

It is amusing how people react in anger to situation just because money stop flowing in their hands knowing that is NOT Bryans fault. Nobody proved as of this date anything that he personally was responsible for this mess.
PIPS is business with risk and was clearly stated as such from first day, so if anyone jumped and put money in without considering of consequences, how is this Bryan's fault?
Any intelligent person would do planing for the worst same as any investment or business transition in world, regardless how business is planed and projected.

Some members are naive in decision thinking to get rich over night, and spend money that could not afford to loose.

Good example was with me when I got promised job with high potentials from owner and he lay to me all possible future bonus and salary structure that made me to invest my interest taking that position and leaving already good paid job.Than six months later his business went sour and I lost a job due that condition.
Do I need to blame owner for my lost? I made decision in first place and I learn from it. That wrong decision cost me a lot.

What I try to say, we can't blame Bryan for anything personally. Conditions that Pips was put in created a lot of problems. We did not give Bryan chance to solve problems, instead all jumped and made attack creating even worst for everybody.

Now we need to wait till court solves problems for us and is shame that will take much longer than we wanted.

Personally I do not think that we lost anything yet, just a time, and we have only left to be patience.

I know I will be attacked by angry mobs in contradiction but that would not help solved problem. We need to except reality regardless how we feel.

Old Chinese saying is "You can cover yourselves only as long as your blanket length".

Interesting,

You seem to be missing what everyone is angry about, it is not about the money we lost, it is about our trust and faith which was manipulated by Bryan when he stole our hopes and dreams, This is far worse than any criminal act he is accused of or ripping off members money in my opinion. This anger is not about lost money as you seem to think it is.

Nobody likes to be ripped off, this is one thing, and some, like yourself may forgive Bryan for merely being a scammer, but I wonder, how do you feel about all the lies he constantly told us. You seem to ignore these as if they never happened. If you want to live in fantasyland, that is fine with me, but most would rather deal with reality, and that is, WE WERE LIED TO, DECEIVED, and WORSE, OUR HOPES AND DREAMS WERE STOLEN.

If you want to think nobody has lost anything yet, then you are the one who is lost in fantasyland. Bryan stole all hope long ago, and BN investigation clearly indicates there never was billions, just the millions from the couple hundred thousand members that were ripped off. It matters little what the 101 felony counts of money laundering prove in the end, Bryan lied to all of us, and that is why I am angry, he played with peoples hopes and dreams and then stole them, the most valuable asset we own.

Good luck to all, Mike