Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Originally Posted by neno

Yes to be Official. But the question was, "It has been posted in the Gazette"?

No.

From my post #141....Refering to Susies post of yesterday -
Then Susie posted a newspaper site that published it (SGS Post #28730 in history thread) Doesn"t this make it a done deal?


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If we have established that GAZZETTE means any newspaper (organ of record) and not a website than yes it has been published.Again read Mrs CK's post #212 on page 22 Thanks

Originally Posted by Mike5200

From my post #141....Refering to Suies post of yesterday -
Then Susie posted a newspaper site that published it (SGS Post #28730 in history thread) Doesn"t this make it a done deal?


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If we have established that GAZZETTE means any newspaper (organ of record) and not a website than yes it has been published.Again read Mrs CK's post #212 on page 22 Thanks

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Originally Posted by kiko

Yep, but correct me if I am wrong that was that it was ratified. In my opinion they now have to enact it by publishing. I thought it only was and will be enacted by the Official Gazette maybe I am wrong about it, like Susie said.

Like I said, I just hope they do it soon now, or else

Originally Posted by Mike5200

But wasn"t it ratified by being on Pres. Talibani's Presidency site that Felita found yesterday?

Then Susie posted a newspaper site that published it (SGS Post #28730 in history thread) Doesn"t this make it a done deal?


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Originally Posted by Felita
Hello everyone! Have you seen this from Iraqipresidency site? "The Presidency ratified the Investment Law", Thursday: November 30, 2006!!

Originally Posted by kiko

I agree. Checked on it again.

The ratified law of yesterday says in the arabic part (translated):

"Article (36) :this law implemented from the date of its publication in the Official Gazette."

Iraqi Presidency

So, in my opinion this means only official Gazette or it would have stated "or any other news source of the government".

I can remember, like Susie said, that there was a discussion about this but if I am correct it was about the CBI announcements that changed their policy.

In my opinion CBI and Investment Law are two seperate things.

But they still can do it anytime and I also agree with others that this law is now a done deal and the RV will be here very soon!

If I am wrong then I hope someone give me the link to the post and I will come back to say that I am wrong.

Originally Posted by kiko

Thanks DayDream!

I thought so. But he, they can still do it any time they want, so in fact it doesn't matter where they publish it.

We know from Adster, that they updated the Gazette sometimes 2 days in a row and then one month later.

It can happen anytime now and we are all there!

Originally Posted by DayDream

Yes you are correct Kiko. I posted the original article and it came from the CBI site regarding their announcements.

Cheers!
DayDream

Originally Posted by DayDream

Well I know that they DO NOT update on Fridays at all. We should see an update around 11:00 am as this is when they usually update on Saturdays. They ALWAYS update on a Saturday and have only missed doing so 7 times this year 3 of which (I believe?) were on their holidays. So keep ALL eyes peeled in the morning!!

Cheers!
DayDream

Originally Posted by Inscrutable

Read this post, Susie said it doesn't have to be in the Gazette.
http://www.rolclub.com/iraqi-dinar-d...tml#post143246

Originally Posted by DayDream

That may be true but seeing it in the gazette would pretty much put this puppy to bed (FIL).

Cheers!
DayDream

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

in that case, جردية الوقائع العراقية it will be listed in its entirety on this link. can we get someone to have their arabic translators take a look at the iraqi law link i listed and read the documents that are there most recently??

Originally Posted by CapeK

The most recent entry in the Official Gazette was dated Nov. 13, 2006

No. 22 Shawwal 4028 142 7 e-November 13th, 2006


(لفتح صفحات هذا العدد يرجى تنصيب برنامج Acrobat Reader )(To open the pages of this number, please installation program project proposals under Acrobat)



قوانينLaws

قانون تعديل قانون الادعاء العام رقم (159) لسنة 2006 ص1Act to amend the Public Prosecution (No. 159) of 2006 Al-Ahram


قانون انضمام جمهورية العراق الى اتفاقية حضر استعمال وتخزين وانتاج ونقل الالغام للافراد وتدمير تلك الالغام الموقع عليها في اوتاوا في 1997/12/2 ص1The accession of the Republic of Iraq to the Convention attended the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on Their Destruction signed in Ottawa in 1997 / February 12 Al-Ahram

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

except there is a discrepancy on which site you say is the official gazette and the one that is listed as the official gazette. the uruklink.net/iqlaw site is for listing laws as they become official. that would be the investment law.

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

but since the article indicated thats where it would be listed, i would say the gazette is a must. besides, since it is a 'law' then it should be listed on the official gazette where they list the law notices.

Originally Posted by DayDream

Gotcha. I assumed this link....

Translated version of http://www.uruklink.net/

was the Official Site. My bad.

Cheers!
DayDream

Originally Posted by PlatanoKing

From : gazette - Dictionary definition and pronunciation - Yahoo! Education

ga·zette (g-zt) KEY

NOUN:

1. A newspaper.
2, An official journal.
3. Chiefly British An announcement in an official journal.

TRANSITIVE VERB:
ga·zet·ted , ga·zet·ting , ga·zettes
Chiefly British To announce or publish in an official journal or in a newspaper.

Another: Translated version of http://www.uruklink.net/iqlaw/

The Gazette

Historical facts about Iraq
Before the founding of the Iraqi state, there is no clear concept of the Official Gazette, where the orders of Ottoman rule, published in some newspapers, such as Al-Zawra senior Iraqi newspaper only that the first print was published on laws and orders and government data was a press release issued by the Englishmen who entered Iraq in 1917.
The first issuance of the official publication was in the 1922 / August 12 the legislation began as a publication of official statements and records of the meetings of the House and Senate and lasted until 1958 had been issued for the date in question (4168), then started a new number is the number (1) 1958 / 5 / 23.
By issuing the official gazette : -

One - and the Ministry of Finance.

2 - The Ministry of Interior-General Directorate of propaganda.

3 - the Ministry of news and guidance, which later became the Ministry of Guidance and the Ministry of Information.
4-then seconded to the Ministry of Justice in 1975.

5 - Trainees Asiouaya issued in Arabic and English, appeared totals Iraqi cataloged facts instead of a printed laws and regulations as well as the group issued monthly and the legislature since 1988.
6 - the distribution of the Official Gazette of the state's departments and bodies and citizens involved inside and outside the country .
7-Iraqi containing facts on the decisions, regulations, instructions, The data of the interim civil administration of the Coalition Authority.
8 - contribute Gazette effective contribution in spreading legal awareness among citizens and interest of national institutions and different world and is the only document and approved for publication legislation that under the law of publication in the Official Gazette No. (78) of 1977 .

The first document came from an official presidency's website:
The Presidency ratified the Investment Law

Translated version of http://www.iraqipresidency.net/news_detial.php?language=arabic&id=3544&type=news



The Republic of Iraq
The Presidency of the Republic
Press Office
Kamari Airag
Seh Rakayh T Kemar
J Nosenkh
Raژna away the Nosy

Greetings

Press Office of the Presidency of the Republic shall cover all activities carried out by the President of the Republic, by means of issuing statements and press reports, enhanced image, The Office also notified the media about the press conferences to Mr. President and to organize meetings with the media. The supervision and also on the presidency's website.

E-mail : [email protected].

Translated version of http://www.iraqipresidency.net/news_detial.php?language=arabic&id=3544&type=news

Originally Posted by MrsCK

THANK YOU THANK YOU - was working up a post just like this but keep losing satelite - the word GAZETTE does not mean a WEBSITE even thou this is 2006 and we think every house in the world has internet!! One Iraq newspaper even states on the home page "Official Gazette of Iraq" because GAZETTE MEAN NEWSPAPER so the Iraqi people that don't have internet CAN READ WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE GOVERNMENT.

Also stated on the CPA website:
CHAPTER ONE – FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES

Article 1.

(A) This Law shall be called the “Law of Administration for the State of Iraq for the Transitional Period,” and the phrase “this Law” wherever it appears in this legislation shall mean the “Law of Administration for the State of Iraq for the Transitional Period.”
Article 9
(1) Publication of the official gazette, in the two languages (DON'T SAY WEBSITE IT SAY PUBLICATION SOMETHING YOU HOLD IN YOUR HANDS AND READ)

Article 30
(B) Laws shall be issued in the name of the people of Iraq. Laws, regulations, and directives related to them shall be published in the official gazette and shall take effect as of the date of their publication, unless they stipulate otherwise.

oK I really HOPE that our two post will make this debt go away now
cheers all for a great week and have a WONDERFUL WEEKEND!!
Chris

Originally Posted by Inscrutable

You are correct, it is the newspaper called Alwaqai aliraqiya.

Originally Posted by Jola

I JUST LOOKED UP THE PRESIDENT'S RIGHT TO RATIFY LAWS IN IRAQI CONSTITUTION.


It look slike any law ratified by president IS ENACTED, but will go in full in 15 days:
ARTICLE 70, C: PRESIDENT HAS THE POWERS TO:...
C. To ratify and issue the laws enacted by the Council of Representatives. Such laws are considered ratified after fifteen days from the date of receipt.

So, yes, I think the Investment Law IS OFFICIAL ( by presidential decree or something like that), it has been made public / people have been informed by official press release, however, it will go in effect in 15 days...

Also Article 58 says

Article 58:

The Council of Representatives specializes in the following:

First: Enacting federal laws.
Second..yaddayada

The press release starts:
Council issued a presidential distinguished Investment Law No. (13) of 2000, Based on the approved by the House of Representatives, following is the text of the law :

Originally Posted by Inscrutable

Many similarities in the Qatar Investment law besides the title, for instance,

ARTICLE (20) All parties concerned, each within its own competence, shall execute this Law, and it will enter into force upon its publication in the Official Gazette


Transfers are effected in any convertible currency at the rates prevailing on the date of the transfer.

Originally Posted by AlwaysDreaming

I hear there's a 12 step program....seems like I can't get to step one yet! Rolclub is the biggest Dinaraholic family there is!!

To get this money off our backs wouldn't we have to disassociate with those who were not going through the program? And meet periodically and then go out for coffee? YUUUUUKKK! What would be the point? You KNOW what we'd all talk about! It's more fun to jones for RolClub, wake up, log on and catch up and research. Then: party after the RV....

thas a good one!

Originally Posted by Dinar Madness

Okay I got you covered on that. Only up beat articles for now on.

Hi Dinar Madness,

I appreciate all of the news good or bad I prefer good but we should keep informed on all of the story. But I would like to go back to being ignorant but for some reason it dose not work that way.

Your doing a great job thanks for the info.

Hoping for an RV this week then maybe I can go back to ignorance is bliss life!!!!!!!

Dinar-Excited But Know Longer Ignorant (bummer)

Originally Posted by whatever

I think they do have to publish it Kiko. "Legal notice" and all that goes with it, same in the USA, anything gov't enacts has to be published in the Federal Register. Since CBI may in fact be like the Fed (not a government entity, but part of a banking cartel) they still have to publish the notice somewhere for all to see. I think that's part of what makes it "official".

Thanks Neno, but I'll fire one last shot in favor of any newspaper(gazzette) over the Official Gazzette website. You didn't include the post above, but the key words are "for all to see" - I would assume that the vast majority of the Iraqi people do not have internet access but most would read a newspaper.

Thanks again
Mike

15 days .....hmmmm.....As in December 15????? Have I been reading about that date before??? I can hear my heart pounding tonight!

Thanks to everyone for your great posts!!!
Happy Holidays!!!
G

SilverstreakO, Just wondering if maybe you heard from the professor and what his take is on the recent news of the FIL?

It seems like every month is the same. It's going to R/V on the 15th. I say treat it like any other investment, Check daily but don't get your hopes up on any time soon. I, like everyone else, hope it happens soon. the 15th of dec. would be great. I know my kids would have a better christmas. I'm not a nay sayer. I have a lot of great expectations for the dinar, but no one knows for sure when the r/v will happen. But I think we can all agree that it will happen or none of us would have bought in the dinars.

Thanks