Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

In some sports there is a move that makes the scoring of a point at a particular portion of the game more spectacular. This is one of those times; timing and sometimes it is like car races; you just stay in the "draft" and at that right moment, hit the throttle and pass the leader and score first place! It be nice to have one right about now, a "draft" that is, an Iraqi Dinar Draft to be "bob1940" correct, mind you! (Confused, you need to be mixed up, you find more good stuff when you are!)

CharmedPiper, Good show on this news that you have been pumping out! Put away the pain killer, you are on a roll, but I believe you have found it; as SGS was pointing out about six-eight months ago, as Jordan flys, Iraq has been "drafting"!

Another look: See Paragraph 3.1 An Assessment, from the Jordanian report below. It would start at the bottom of page #15. When you get to page 3.13 Macroeconomics you really start getting excited! Get to 3.17 The Exchange Rate, followed by 3.18-Box 1, Exchange Rate Regime, Basket and Parity; get more excited! Read the Annex "A" and at the end you see that they passed the "Competition Law" in 2002 makes you wonder what made their "Dinar" raise in value, see what they sold off and how their economics started taking off without "OIL!"!

Tell me Shabibi does not know what he is doing, he and others know!

https://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/53/14/36488608.pdf

Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

Here is another coincidence....the last few links I posted pertain to the system used by Jordan......wasn't it documented by an Iraqi official that Iraq should come in somewhere comparable to Jordan as far as economic jumpstart???? I have a headache now but am I still going down the right road here???

Originally Posted by Dinar Duchess

Yes, you could be right... Yesterday I put in my stock order to Warka and Mr. I replied today and said that it will not be purchased till Wednesday due to the curfew so maybe we will not hear for a few days... damnit I was looking forward to tomorrows auction

Wait...you might be in luck...they just announced ban to be lifted...

The extension of the curfew in Baghdad and lifted Monday

(Voice of Iraq) - 11-25-2006
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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A spokesman for the Iraqi government on Saturday, the government extended the curfew for a third day to be lifted on Monday morning.

Skinner said on television that the government curfew that was imposed last Thursday in the wake of devastating explosions in the Sadr City neighborhood, which is populated by a majority of Shiites in Baghdad will continue for vehicles on Sunday.

Originally Posted by pogo

I agree that sometimes posts may appear to get a little off topic, but I think that's the nature of a public forum. I honestly believe that the majority of news eminating from and about Iraq is relative to our concerns.. whether the post says Dinar or not is irrelevant. I hesitated to post the article concerning Sunni - Shiite history in the "Latest News" thread knowing that it would be considered off topic, but thats where the conversation was at the time. Information has to be read, and then discussed for a forum to function properly and sometimes the direction of the discussion cannot (should not?) be controlled. I'm really not sure where else I would have posted the article anyway. Maybe another "Sticky" called ALL THINGS RELATIVE. How about a Thread on how to deal with off topic discussion? We could possibly come up with Ideas that could save Neno a lot of work. Just my thoughts

I thought the topic fit in here well too, we have been talking about this topic in here for over 24 hours... A lot of investors are worried with the latest violence and poss civil war in Iraq ruining our DINAR investment...

We need all the research and news on all things pertaining to Iraq to bring this investment home...

I did not understand why something was said against that post, I think Neno will even put a thanks under it once he sees it, he too I'm sure has a little worry about the recent violence and what it might or could do to the out come of our investment...

Originally Posted by pogo

I agree that sometimes posts may appear to get a little off topic, but I think that's the nature of a public forum. I honestly believe that the majority of news eminating from and about Iraq is relative to our concerns.. whether the post says Dinar or not is irrelevant. I hesitated to post the article concerning Sunni - Shiite history in the "Latest News" thread knowing that it would be considered off topic, but thats where the conversation was at the time. Information has to be read, and then discussed for a forum to function properly and sometimes the direction of the discussion cannot (should not?) be controlled. I'm really not sure where else I would have posted the article anyway. Maybe another "Sticky" called ALL THINGS RELATIVE. How about a Thread on how to deal with off topic discussion? We could possibly come up with Ideas that could save Neno a lot of work. Just my thoughts

Pogo: I'm with you - the historical friction between the Sunnis and Shiites assists us in understanding why the Kurds may eventually have to referee Iraq and why, when the Kurds are ready to go forward with all the contracts they are signing, it may help to bring the S&S to the table...Explains delays in getting to the rv and the persistence on the part of the Kurds to drag these other two factions into the 21st century, willing or not. This IS happening and if the Sunnis and Shiites want to partake, the next several generations will make it work.

On another topic: I cannot find my posting from yesterday that showed how many millions of dinar the Iraqis were investing in Jordan: with all the talk today about Jordananian banking, this now makes sense. I don't feel I've earned the right to woot, yet...but permission or not, when it happens, you'll hear me where ever you are - though I'm sure not gonna drown out SGS!

Originally Posted by PopaDinar

I thought the topic fit in here well too, we have been talking about this topic in here for over 24 hours... A lot of investors are worried with the latest violence and poss civil war in Iraq ruining our DINAR investment...

We need all the research and news on all things pertaining to Iraq to bring this investment home...

I did not understand why something was said against that post, I think Neno will even put a thanks under it once he sees it, he too I'm sure has a little worry about the recent violence and what it might or could do to the out come of our investment...

Agreed,

Everything uncovered here, whether the word dinar is attached or not, is in some way or another connected to the dinar. It is impossible to disconnect the dinar from everything else going on in Iraq, and that includes the historic posts.

Everything is connected, just as in all complex puzzles, some can connect the dots easily, some cannot, but each post either directly or indirectly connected to the dinar is of importance to many of us here. The one thing I have learned is you never stop learning. I want to thank everyone for their input and fine efforts in their research, it sure makes it easier for everyone, so keep up the progress of this very complex puzzle called Iraq.

Good luck to all, Mike

U.S. tries broader approach to Iraq conflict
25 Nov 2006 02:54:52 GMT
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Background
Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Iraq in turmoil
More (Updates with Cheney's departure, spokeswoman's comment)

By Sue Pleming and Caren Bohan

WASHINGTON, Nov 24 (Reuters) - With Iraq near all-out civil war, the Bush administration is renewing efforts to break the cycle of violence there by enlisting the help of moderate Arab nations while also seeking to tackle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

President George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki are due to meet next week and Vice President Dick Cheney left for Saudi Arabia on Friday for talks on the Middle East.

"The vice president is looking forward to meeting with King Abdullah, a strong ally, to discuss regional issues of mutual interest," said Lea Anne McBride, Cheney's spokeswoman, as the vice president's plane made a brief stop in Ireland.

The United States wants Saudi Arabia to use its influence with Iraq's Sunni minority to help stabilize the country. On Thursday, car bombs killed more than 200 people in a Shi'ite stronghold in Baghdad in the worst single attack since U.S.-led forces toppled Saddam Hussein's government in April 2003.

Bush and Maliki will discuss security in Iraq at their meeting, in what is shaping up to be a crisis summit.

The surge in violence in Iraq came as U.S. public discontent with the Iraq war was hammered home in Nov. 7 elections in which Bush's Republican Party lost control of houses of Congress.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair and other European leaders want Bush to take a more active role in reviving the Middle East peace process. But Bush has so far avoided the hands-on approach to Middle East peacemaking of his predecessors.

That may change as Bush turns increasingly for advice to figures from his father's administration like former Secretary of State James Baker who is leading a review on Iraq policy, some analysts said.

REGIONAL APPROACH

David Rothkopf, a scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said Bush's trip signaled a recognition that stability in Iraq depended on a regional approach.

"By going to Jordan to meet with Maliki, Bush is investing himself in a multilateral dialogue on the Middle East," Rothkopf said.

The Bush administration is also seeking help from Arab allies like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan in breaking a deadlock in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

"All of these issues of the Middle East are interrelated and you can't solve any of them without looking at others," said one Arab diplomat.

There is pressure for the United States to meet with Iran and Syria over Iraq, but U.S. officials have been cool to the idea. One Western diplomat said Washington wanted to counter the threat it sees from Iran and Syria by co-opting moderate Arab nations on both Iraq and the Palestinian-Israeli issue.

"They also want to allay regional fears that the United States is going to leave Iraq too soon. The big concern is about stability in the region," said the diplomat.

At the United Nations in September, Bush made clear resolving the Arab-Israeli conflict was a priority of his final two years in office and he charged his Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, with tackling it.

After joining Bush in Amman, Rice will attend an annual Middle East conference in Jordan, where key Arab players may meet on the sidelines to discuss Arab-Israeli issues.

The administration's point people on Israeli-Palestinian issues, David Welch and Elliott Abrams, have been shuttling between Arab states and Israel to move the process along.

However, a senior U.S. official said any movement depended on what happened with negotiations to form a new unity government in the Palestinian territories to replace the Hamas-led administration boycotted by the West. (Additional reporting by Patricia Zengerle in Shannon, Ireland)

AlertNet news is provided by Reuters

Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

Hey, if it doesn't work out for tomorrow...I will dig up some other coincidences and we will shoot for Monday....! I am not ready to concede to December for a reval I am ready for a November reval!!!!!

Well we are 5 days and counting down, Charmed I hope you are right, we want it and we want it NOW........

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A U.N. envoy urged Iraq's government on Saturday to halt a slide into civil war and stop the "cancer" of sectarianism from destroying the country, warning that the carnage of this week could tear Iraq apart.


As a curfew was extended until Monday, possibly derailing a trip to Iran by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, the U.N. envoy in Baghdad, Ashraf Qazi, said car bombs on Thursday that killed more than 200 Shi'ites and "blind acts of revenge" were "tearing apart the very political and social fabric of Iraq."

"No country could tolerate such a cancer in its body politic," Qazi said in a statement.

Talabani has said he will not leave for Tehran until Baghdad airport reopens -- now due early on Monday. His aides were unavailable for comment on his plans after the government spokesman announced a third day of curfew on state television.

"We hope our people give no chance of victory to the terrorists who want to sink the country into chaos," spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said. "The security forces have strong orders."

Talabani's visit to fiercely anti-American Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whom Washington accuses of backing militant fellow Shi'ites in Iraq, is part of growing efforts to involve regional powers in efforts to prevent civil war.

But President Bush appears skeptical of what his adversaries Iran and Syria are willing to do. Vice President Dick Cheney was in Saudi Arabia on Saturday, expected to discuss Saudi influence over Iraq's restive Sunni minority.

The Shi'ite-led government has called for calm, desperate to avert the sort of sharp escalation in violence that followed an attack on a Shi'ite shrine in Samarra in February. This time, many fear, such revenge attacks could push Iraq over the edge.

Fearful Iraqis spent sleepless nights guarding their homes and asking who would be next after gunmen attacked mosques and burned homes in a Sunni enclave on Friday following the worst bomb attack since Saddam Hussein's overthrow in April 2003.

Abu Marwah, who lives in the Jamia area of mainly Sunni west Baghdad, said: "All the men in the area were on alert ... we received information that militias were expected to attack. Of course we all had our Kalashnikovs."

The city of 7 million was under a tight curfew imposed after 202 were killed in Sadr City, stronghold of the Mehdi Army, a militia loyal to Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr that Sunni Arabs blame for thousands of death squad killings in recent months.

"Everybody is tense, everybody is expecting something may happen at any moment," said Abu Marwah, 40, a Sunni Arab translator who spent much of Friday night on the roof of his home, Kalashnikov in hand, keeping watch for militia attacks.

Mortar rounds hit Sadr City and other districts after dark on Saturday, causing a number of casualties, police said.

VIOLENCE SWIRLS

In apparent revenge for the Sadr City bombings, four mosques and homes were attacked in a Sunni enclave in northwest Baghdad on Friday, Sunni Deputy Prime Minister Salem al-Zobaie said.

Residents said the mosques were burned but the U.S. military said an Iraqi army patrol found fire damage at only one.

Defense Minister Abdul Qader Jasim criticized residents for their accounts of the violence in Hurriya, in which a source at police headquarters said 30 people were killed.

Police found the bodies of 21 men and boys from an extended Shi'ite family on Saturday in a mainly Sunni Arab village in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, security sources said.

Despite centuries of harmony between Shi'ite Muslims and the Sunni minority, three years of bigotry and bloodshed have turned Baghdad's rich mix of communities into a patchwork of fearful, heavily armed and mutually hostile, sectarian redoubts.

Sectarian bitterness is boiling over, too, in the six-month -old government, particularly since a mass kidnap at a Sunni-run ministry and attacks on Shi'ite politicians.

Sunni Vice-President Tareq al-Hashemi said all sides should work together, but a top Sunni cleric, Harith al-Dari, wanted on an arrest warrant for inciting violence, told a news conference in Cairo: "This government ... exploits sectarianism."

U.N. urges Iraq to halt slide to civil war - Yahoo! News

Dinar-Excited but a bit concerned

Originally Posted by pogo

I agree that sometimes posts may appear to get a little off topic, but I think that's the nature of a public forum. I honestly believe that the majority of news eminating from and about Iraq is relative to our concerns.. whether the post says Dinar or not is irrelevant. I hesitated to post the article concerning Sunni - Shiite history in the "Latest News" thread knowing that it would be considered off topic, but thats where the conversation was at the time. Information has to be read, and then discussed for a forum to function properly and sometimes the direction of the discussion cannot (should not?) be controlled. I'm really not sure where else I would have posted the article anyway. Maybe another "Sticky" called ALL THINGS RELATIVE. How about a Thread on how to deal with off topic discussion? We could possibly come up with Ideas that could save Neno a lot of work. Just my thoughts

All things are RELATIVE!! Just because news does not say "Iraq" does not mean that everyone(all Banks and all Money People all over the world) are not waiting to get there hands on a piece of the IRAQI re-val Pie!

H-Silverlinning

O.K. Mostly the only things I hear about Iraq are from here in the forum, or when I venture through the news channels. (Which isn't often!)

I live pretty close to an Air Force Base and they also have the Reserve program locally too. A group that had been in Iraq for almost a year came home a couple days ago, and one of the local news channels went to the airport with one of the families to film the homecoming.

The girl that they were there to greet was all of 5 feet tall dressed in camo....after greeting and hugs to her family the reporter started the questions...."happy to be home?" yadayada...then asked "How do you deal with seeing such horrific things every day while you are there?"

She turned and looked straight into the camera and said "Things aren't NEARLY as bad as what is reported".

I threw my arms straight up in the air and let out a WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!

That's RIGHT! I swear she was looking into my eyes, talking right to me!

The reporter immediately wished the family a happy holiday and signed off the segment!!!! I'm thinking he was looking for an 'inside' view on how terrible it is in Iraq, and she just SQUASHED IT FLAT!!!

I just thought I would share since it just verified once again how distorted the news really is by the time it gets to US~!


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