Thread: Global Pension Plan

Originally Posted by berty

If I play the lotto I know that I may lose money when I invest in the HYIP I am being told that I will get 2% per day and achieve financial freedom.....if this is lies and the HYIP is a scam then morally this is wrong.

Why is it that you seem to be only capable of reading "part" of the investment info in a website?

They all say that expected returns do not guarantee that this will continue in the future. This possibility is qualified in most HYIP websites and there is no guarantee that you will reach financial freedom. Stop picking out bits and pieces and making your posts based on these pieces. That constitutes lies.

Originally Posted by paddyfield

I for one would like to know how this LynnRe charater is connected. They surely forgot to tighten the nuts. Perhaps a touch of oil mate then you would,nt squeak so much.

I guess the answer to that is she is "disconnected".

Don't you just love it when they can't argue with facts, they have to resort to name-calling. Kind of like you (chicosan and paddy) did about me when I was exposing PIPS. But I digress. Now let's talk about this reverse pension plan concept.

I would like one of you "in-the-know" about GPP to explain how you can just pay an administrative fee, but receive the proceeds from a pension product. If it is a pension product, then there has to be funds in the account, or you don't have a pension fund. So, now I am to believe that someone who has this pension product is going to give me $55,000 of their pension just for paying an administrative fee of $35. Or put another way, just who is paying for the pension product? You certainly aren't, so what generous person is going to allow you to receive all this money, that is theirs, because you paid an administrative fee?

Now if they are issuing the policy on you, then how do you not have to pay the premiums? What we are led to believe is that an insurance company is going to advance you a % of the total net worth of the policy, you have not paid any premiums, nor will you because your only cost is the administrative fee; but they only make money when you die? If they don't collect any premiums, you don't have a policy. So please enlighten me on just how this "super duper secretive policy" works again?

Not that it is that important, but I am a man not a woman. Oh, chicosan, most of those programs you were in were Ponzi's. Glad you made money, but you did it at the expense of all those who didn't. Glad that doesn't bother you, but then I guess you think you are the only one to lecture on morals.

Originally Posted by LynnRE

Don't you just love it when they can't argue with facts, they have to resort to name-calling.

For the most part, we learned name-calling from you and others whose arrogance is all they got.

Kind of like you (chicosan and paddy) did about me when I was exposing PIPS. But I digress. Now let's talk about this reverse pension plan concept.

Ah....poor baby.

I would like one of you "in-the-know" about GPP to explain how you can just pay an administrative fee, but receive the proceeds from a pension product. If it is a pension product, then there has to be funds in the account, or you don't have a pension fund.

Why should anyone waste time trying to educate someone with a closed muind?

So, now I am to believe that someone who has this pension product is going to give me $55,000 of their pension just for paying an administrative fee of $35. Or put another way, just who is paying for the pension product?

YOU are not a GPP member, so there is no reason for YOU to know.

You certainly aren't, so what generous person is going to allow you to receive all this money, that is theirs, because you paid an administrative fee?

Now if they are issuing the policy on you, then how do you not have to pay the premiums?

All of this is fine, but YOU have no need to know!

What we are led to believe is that an insurance company is going to advance you a % of the total net worth of the policy, you have not paid any premiums, nor will you because your only cost is the administrative fee; but they only make money when you die?

Wrong, as usual.

If they don't collect any premiums, you don't have a policy. So please enlighten me on just how this "super duper secretive policy" works again?

This would be waste of time since you are "closed" to anything that YOU do not agree with.

Not that it is that important, but I am a man not a woman.

LOLOLOLOL

Oh, chicosan, most of those programs you were in were Ponzi's. Glad you made money, but you did it at the expense of all those who didn't.

Oh, you mean just like every lottery in the world and like most of the governments of the world do to their citizens. Don't try to push this "moral" thing on everyone who makes money from scams.

Glad that doesn't bother you, but then I guess you think you are the only one to lecture on morals.

You really think that YOU are acting morally with all this BS you post?

You have a nice day.

Ah, the old lotto's are the same as HYIP scams. Love this comparing apples to oranges. At least I know the odds when I play the lotto, and I know if I win, I will collect. In short it is a level playing field because everyone playing has just as good a chance at winning as anyone else playing. Not true in HYIP scams. Only the first in receive any funds. They are the ones who are called "salting the mine" to lure others into believing the program is real. Just love how you try to twist your moral superiority you have and try to make it sound like I am the one claming morality not you. As I said before, when you can't dispute facts, you have to bait and switch or call people names. What you fail to understand is I really don't care what you call me, I really don't care if you like to fool yourself into believing you are somehow superior to all of us that don't buy this crap, and I really don't care what you think of me. I don't care if you believe I am a man or a woman, I really don't care if you think I don't know anything, and I certainly don't care if you like me or not. But please keep on posting as you are exposing yourself as only you can. So instead of calling me names, instead of trying to bait and switch, instead of trying to obfuscate by trying to compare apples to oranges, just list the "facts" that dispute what I have said. Of course we all know you can't, but sure would love to see you try. And don't give me this it is a secret crap. That may work for someone who has no centilla of knowledge about finance, insurance, or investments, but it dosen't with me.

So just once dispute what I have said. You couldn't do it with PIPS, and so far you haven't been able to do it with this scam either. In case you missed it SI, PIPS and many of the other "winners" you claimed you made money from have all been declared Ponzi's. That means scams. Want to know why they disappeared? They were scams. Glad I could clear that up for you since you did not understand or know why. Now I know you really did know, but nice of you to try and claim your ignorance here on the open forum.

Originally Posted by berty

OK i would like proof that HCI125 has paid out in previous projects.....thanks

Berty - Chicosan knows they paid out because it said so on their website and Mr. Carlsson wouldn't lie, would he?
By the way, where is their website?

Originally Posted by Owen Platt

Berty - Chicosan knows they paid out because it said so on their website and Mr. Carlsson wouldn't lie, would he?
By the way, where is their website?

First....It did not say that on their website. Second....The name Carlsson does not apply...only in your mind.

Owen: It is down for maintenance. At least that is the story chicosan is telling. Oh wait a minute. Seems their host shut them down as the host was told it was a Ponzi. Guess they haven't found a new host yet. He should try Ipowerweb. They host all the scams.

Originally Posted by LynnRE

Ah, the old lotto's are the same as HYIP scams. Love this comparing apples to oranges.

Look at it that way if it makes you feel important, but you're wrong.

At least I know the odds when I play the lotto, and I know if I win, I will collect. In short it is a level playing field because everyone playing has just as good a chance at winning as anyone else playing. Not true in HYIP scams.

So, what's your point? Did you just find that out? You have already said that 99% are scams. If you think playing known/possible scams is wrong, that's your opinion. You need to stop trying to make people feel guilty because they play scams.

Only the first in receive any funds.

That's only true of ponzis and they are not ALL ponzis. No one knows that a program is a ponzi or a scam ahead of time. They think they do and most of the time they are right, but, not always.

They are the ones who are called "salting the mine" to lure others into believing the program is real. Just love how you try to twist your moral superiority you have and try to make it sound like I am the one claming morality not you.

Oh, stop being so melodramtic.

As I said before, when you can't dispute facts,

These are YOUR facts; twisted to make your opinion important and right.

you have to bait and switch or call people names.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

What you fail to understand is I really don't care what you call me, I really don't care if you like to fool yourself into believing you are somehow superior to all of us that don't buy this crap,

This has nothing to do with superiority. If you would get your head out of the box, you might have different views, but that ain't gonna happen.

and I really don't care what you think of me. I don't care if you believe I am a man or a woman, I really don't care if you think I don't know anything, and I certainly don't care if you like me or not.

I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Your ego is your ego.
But please keep on posting as you are exposing yourself as only you can. So instead of calling me names, instead of trying to bait and switch, instead of trying to obfuscate by trying to compare apples to oranges,

That's sortof funny because that is exactly what YOU do.

just list the "facts" that dispute what I have said. Of course we all know you can't, but sure would love to see you try.

What would be the point in that....your mind is already closed.

And don't give me this it is a secret crap. That may work for someone who has no centilla of knowledge about finance, insurance, or investments, but it dosen't with me.

So just once dispute what I have said.

Quite frankly, I don't give a damn what you have said. After all, it is ONLY your opinion.

You couldn't do it with PIPS, and so far you haven't been able to do it with this scam either.

PIPS is a dead issue. Hashing it over and over is like an animal returning to its vomit.

In case you missed it SI, PIPS and many of the other "winners" you claimed you made money from have all been declared Ponzi's.

SO WHAT? 99% are ponzi/scams and thousands made money off of these.

That means scams. Want to know why they disappeared? They were scams.

What a great enlightenment.

Glad I could clear that up for you since you did not understand or know why. Now I know you really did know, but nice of you to try and claim your ignorance here on the open forum.


We learned that from YOU.

Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by LynnRE

Owen: It is down for maintenance. At least that is the story chicosan is telling. Oh wait a minute. Seems their host shut them down as the host was told it was a Ponzi. Guess they haven't found a new host yet. He should try Ipowerweb. They host all the scams.

They not only found a new host, but are in the process of developing a website that can't be attacked by the likes of you and should be up again in a few days. Not bad for what your group calleda runner!