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Stella's bank account? You mean this one:

The original instructions for sending funds to GPP were as follows:

By Bankwire:: To Tallinn Business Bank Ltd., Estonia.
Beneficiary: SOCIETE GENERALE DE GESTION S.A.
IBAN: EE52 0000 0093 2001 8540
Beneficiary’s address: Tallinn, Estonia
Beneficiary’s bank: TALLINN BUSINESS BANK LIMITED
S.W.I.F.T.: TABUEE22

This company sells fake watches over the internet and is registered in St. Vincent.

Cheques to be made payable to First Oceanic Trust London (This a mailbox address only as the company is registered in Somalia )
By Weston Union: to 3 names in Latvia , Inara Astica, Oksana Snetkova and Ivita Vingra.

The cheques were to be sent to 27 Old Gloucester Street, London which is a virtual office mail box address. The cheques were payable to First Oceanic Trust. The Somali bank, First Oceanic Bank is at the same mailing address. Neither the trust nor the bank are licensed.

The virtual office space at 27 Old Gloucester Street, London is leased out by
PO Box, British Monomarks, London, providing PO Box Number, Mail Forwarding, Company, Registered Address, Telephone Answering and Virtual office services.

Has anyone read the latest update from neverland on the GPP Forum? If you have, I would like your thoughts on it.

At first I was going to wait to hear what some of you thought about the post of quotes by neverland on the GPP Forum, but I can't wait any longer. All of you should have taken his post as an affront to your intelligence and your character. This post really said what the people behind GPP think of their membership. They are laughing at you to your face, and many of you don't even know it yet. Sorry, but to me this post was an outrage to the membership. I only hope the membership sees it for what it is, and does not support or approve of it. Sadly there will be those who will still believe what was posted, and agree with it. I truly hurt and feel sad for those people.

This post should have shown you that this never was, nor has ever been, about RPP's or the membership; but soley about the money. Up until now, I have tried to make light and use humor in debunking GPP. They crossed the line, and it is no longer funny or humorous to me. Hopefully some of you will feel the same way. I don't think I am going to be that nice in my comments about GPP from now on, so don't talk to me about me being negative when I do. It is going to fall on deaf ears.

Originally Posted by LynnRE

They crossed the line, and it is no longer funny or humorous to me. Hopefully some of you will feel the same way. I don't think I am going to be that nice in my comments about GPP from now on, so don't talk to me about me being negative when I do. It is going to fall on deaf ears.

I'm dead deaf on this Lynn and you'll probably agree without doubt since I see no need to go hopping into that Forum but its good you did for the sake of many who needs to be made aware what the hidden compelling truth actually entails for those that sees only one side of the mirror.

Bring it on and you don't need to feel arrogant by it... heck... there will always be some who insist you are even if your halo is at its brightest....

Lynn, would you mind telling what post of neverland's you were talking about? I'm confused.... I haven't seen a new one or anything.... ?

Originally Posted by moncheri

Lynn, would you mind telling what post of neverland's you were talking about? I'm confused.... I haven't seen a new one or anything.... ?

Here they all are, and these were taken directly from the forum, and I quote:

"Members speaking out!

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neverland
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: Members speaking out!

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Dear All of You,

I am Hilde M.Makkinje and I am a Business Partner with Bob Proctor and I would like to share some of the knowledge I have and which I am teaching to others.

We all waiting for Pay Out and I am sure that that will be the case soon, and all though you might not be happy with the fact everything takes a little longer, there is something really important I would like to share with you and hopefully you start to work with it.. Until the payment has manifested in physical form..

When you are in a Dark room, you don’t see anything… Until you switch the light on, then the room is visible, the room looks different. Imagine this would be a 7 watt light ball. You’ll see some light, but just too little to see everything really clear. When we change the Light ball to a 100 watt light ball, the room will look brighter, more enlightened and you’ll see clearly All details.. It’s still the same room. What make it different? The Energy is the Same, it’s infinite and unlimited. That was the case with the 7 watt light ball, and it’s still the case with the 100 watt light ball.. The difference is the Body through which the energy is floating.. Does that make sense? You can compare it with the Level of Awareness one has, when one has the Level of Awareness of a 7 watt Light Ball one will see less things then when one has the level of Awareness of a 100 watt light ball

When we all keep the image in mind that we are already paid, Yes, Like it already is a FACT. You see, we think in pictures, we become what we think about and as a man thinket so he is. What we have in our mind will become our reality. The world we live in, is a world that acts through vibration.

When we focus on that one picture in our mind, that we are all longing for, we can change our awareness from being the 7 watt light ball to the 100 watt light ball. We are always in connection with the infinite source, but it’s our mind that will accept or reject idea’s and thoughts. It’s our subconscious mind that plays the crew, it will do everything that the conscious mind tells it to do, you will not be aware of it. So it’s utterly important at this stage to keep the picture in mind like we already have received payment.

You can compare this with a NON-Physical Seed. From every physical seed we know the gestation period, but when we speak of non physical seeds, we have to make intelligent guesses because we don’t know. The only thing we can do, is keep the picture in mind of what we desire or the picture of our worthy ideal or in this case; the picture that we already have been paid..

Wishing You All a Wonderful Night, a Night Full of Wonders

Keep Your Dreams Alive.. Don’t let them Steal away by Fools

With Love, Light & a Lot of Laughter

Hilde M.Makkinje

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neverland
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Posts: 233

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: Members speaking out!

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Hi friends !
I saw a message at GPP forum from Hilde Makkinje.

Actullay im also educated by this great man from Canada , Mr Bob Proctor
and by my mentor here in Sweden , MrThomas Martinsson
Following are something i really want to share with you folks:

Its a absoultely must for a humanbeen to first programme mentally before we can make it fysicly.
Vincent Van Gogh a worldknown artist/painter was asked how he was able to paint wonderful motives,he answered : “Im dreaming my motives and after that i paint my dreams”.Means he saw the pic in his brain and then made a copy on the board.
(the trueth is that there are no original Van Gogh paintings
ever sold)
To belive in things which you can fysicly touch is not at all to belive.But belive in something which you cant see is a Gods blessing. To belive in something invisible and to belive in something overweld.This belife makes you achive all you desire about,which are impossible for the mass.

Tuff times are not lasting but Tuff guys(people) are.

There are 2 important things for people to be aware off :
1) For the rich people to look how the poor people are living
2) For the poor people to look how the rich people are working

The core of knowledge is to own it and to use it.
If you search for the good in people they will discover the very best in you.
Firendship is like a bankaccount You cant take out before you put inside at first.
All a human manage to achieve and all we dont achive is a direct result of our thoughts. If one door is closed for us there are lot of new doors opend,Unfortunately mostly ,we put focus on the closed dorrs instead of opening our eyse and see all the wonderful openings and doors which is wide open just infront of us.
No humans has ever been honored for what they achieved
The honor became a result of what they gave

96% of our population
has 2 big lacks in their lives

TIME & MONEY

There are 4 categories of people:
1) thouse who make bad money and work day and night
(they have neither time or money)
2) Thouse who make big money but work day and night
(what they do with the money ? when dont have time )
3) The unemployeed (pleanty of time , but no money)
4 Thouse who have both

Which category do you want to be?

GPP
gives us both TIME and MONEY !
Stay focused and have patience
we are going to succed

regards
Username
foj
Sweden

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neverland
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Posts: 233

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: Members speaking out!

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Hi Neverland,

I have read with interest the two recent postings on the General Discussion Forum from Hilde and Foj. However, I don’t find these communications helpful, it is through hard work and committment that the Programme will succeed and it is not appropraite for us to be distracted by communications which preach ethereal “Life Style” practices.

We must appreciate that at the moment there are a large number of us who are eagerly waiting for the Programe to move forward, and whilst also, we all have to work collectively to bring it to a satisfactory conclusion, it means we must therefore all be vigilant and keep our focus on being ready and prepared for the next steps. The communications we get now must be related to real positive steps that Programme Members must be preparing to take and in our individual groups we should be working with both our up and downlines to make sure that as many people as possible are actively and regularly being prepared for this.

Please, no more communications which don’t proactively move us forward, otherwise we risk loosing focus and distracting people from the main objectives!

Regards to All
Ray

Remark from Neverland:
Thank you for your opinion. You are right, members definitely have to DO the correct actions like filling out the agreement and making copies of their ID documents and keep themselves updated in the forum once the address is given out. However, some positive thoughts can only be helpful to all of us as many, many things are being caused in the spiritual universe. As with so many things in life, the truth is definitely somewhere in the middle. As we have received lots of positive comments on providing a place for personal opinions of members, we will keep this section open. 130.000 members will never have ONE opinion about things. But he is a very wise man who lets the others have their own viewpoint and does not have to fight it.

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neverland
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Posts: 233

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: Members speaking out!

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Hello Neverland,

I have been reading all of the new positive thinking updates in the forum,
I do not see where applying the secret through Bob Procter is so bad, it is something everyone should apply to every day living. I do agree with ray that everyone should be ready when address is given, but like you said with all the force in the universe, we all need to apply positive thinking. I know there are a lot of us, ok all of us who are eager to see GPP finalized and all of us paid, but I am sure with all of the delays time and time again some are getting mad and frustrated, and do not want to hear or see positive thinking, but that is where we all need to be, to make this work, we can not afford for any negativity at all. We all need to keep the visualization of finally getting paid alive.
Every man is entitled to there opinion, but it is true every one has a different opinion, no one opinion is right or wrong, we are all right and everyone deserves to be heard.
To all, keep your chins up and stay focused and positive I am sure it won’t be long until we are all so very blessed.

Sincerely,
Thoughts become things!!!
Kristi(jksmith22)

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neverland
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Posts: 233

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: Members speaking out!

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Hello Neverland:

I have read the message from Ray dated March 5 and your answer,
And I totally agree with you.
I Ready assiduously everything related to the Law on Attraction and so jealously guarded secret was revealed to us today and I firmly believe that if we do not create in our minds the first things deseandolas with all the soul, putting in everything we do our best more positive thoughts and things did not materialize.
First think and say and all this will be what you have in your life, today, tomorrow and past.
It is therefore important to monitor our networks, which do the right thing, but also teach them to think correctly, teach them that negative emotions will lead to similar situations, teach them that patience is cultivated in the minds, but when we think about things more negative of this we are going to have.
We all know that if we record in a program such features as GPP must follow the rules and conditions, put their profiles a day, watching your website and the forum once a day, but what we know is that not all of the largest and hard work are doing what Stella and his team as well as your Neverland and all those with large networks, and instead of helping you with a frank and loyal support and instill animos we are doing everything to reves, giving problems speaking and elsewhere what not to.
I firmly believe that GPP came to a successful conclusion and that we will soon have the best of news: the best solution bank, because I know my money is deposited in a bank, just missing it takes.

I am from Argentina is my English translator automatic pardon for that.

A huge welcome and much success to you Neverland

A big hug to all and will see you soon!

Regards

Olga Balvidares
User: negocioenred
Buenos Aires - Argentina

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neverland
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Posts: 233

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Members speaking out!

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Greetings Neverland and members:

I have waited quietly in the background for some time now, reading the forum with interest and sometimes with amusement. Now, I feel it is time to speak up and hope that, in so doing, I can help those who are losing their faith in us.

My background is in corporate finance, having worked in that capacity for over 30 years. I have been a part of major acquisitions, investments, and various banking decisions over the years. All that is said to let you know that I understand the complexity of the financial venture that we have undertaken with Global and in turn, they with the Trust Partners.

What many of you do not understand is the fact that in financial ventures, such as this one, many variables come into play during the course of it’s development. Unforseen “speed bumps” occur which must be overcome. This does not in any way suggest that trickery or fraudulent activity is going on. It simply means that in the financial world, all is not smooth sailing.

While others write in the forum about faith, trust, and spiritual powers, which are all good to have, I use those means in concert with my knowledge of financial matters. The bottom line is this: Global WILL succeed but we all need to calm down and let Stella, Neverland, and their team reach the conclusion we all wait for. It WILL happen and my prayer for all of you is that you will look back on this as learning experience into a world that may be new for many of you.

Peace and love to you all.
wayneloneger"

Just an added note. If Wayne truly had a corporate finance background, as he claims, he would have been fired within 2 days.

ok Lynn, yes I guess I did see that. As far as the last post on that forum I would say that someone or whoever wrote it is saying yes it is definately going to pay... Which we all know can't be said definately until it is over....

don't let it get you in too big of a dander now! k?...........

I'm not anyway!
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Originally Posted by moncheri

ok Lynn, yes I guess I did see that. As far as the last post on that forum I would say that someone or whoever wrote it is saying yes it is definately going to pay... Which we all know can't be said definately until it is over....

don't let it get you in too big of a dander now! k?...........

I'm not anyway!
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If it is no big deal to you, then it might not be to others either. Interesting I was more upset with them denigrating the character and integrity of the members apparently than the members themselves. Incredible.

Just so you know, all those posts were lies. Hilda and Olga are bigger pimps of scams than chico. The people they emulate are under investigation, suing each other, and so much for the positive law of attraction. Oh yeah, Wayne.....Well he couldn't find his posterior using a GPS System, Guide Dog, Compass, Map and Boy Scout.

Are you aware they were mocking all the members with these posts?

In regard to when I think GPP will pull the plug, here's my take right now. It is unclear if the banking solution they announced they are working on is in fact in Malaysia. Some think it is a different country, despite Stella saying the meeting they had in KL went well and the license had been applied for. The recent elections gives them plenty of cover if they want to say the banking solution was in Malaysia. With the turmoil the elections has created as to who will actually be running the country, and who will be in charge in certain areas, they have a built in excuse for not being able to provide the banking solution at this time.

The last word from Stella was the additional policies for sale would be closed at the end of February. No update has been forthcoming that has said this did or did not happen. If they announce they will continue to offer policies for sale, then this will run about another month before they pull the plug. With all the turmoil within the membership, they also have an easy out. All they have to do is say that not all 100,000 qualified, therefore the project failed. Since the application fee is non-refundable, gee GPP gets to keep all that money. And they said they only make money if this deal goes through.

When the next update comes, then I'll have a pretty good idea of just how much longer it will be before this fails. They will do it one of two ways. They will just disappear, or they will use the guise that they didn't get 100,000 as required; thus it was the members fault for this failing.

I wanted to see if they posted an update after the results of the Malaysian election before I said anything. Even though they have kept mum, I thought it was time to give my thoughts on this anyway. The key really will be what they say in the next update.

Of course there has been no application for a bank licence anywhere. And if anyone is interested in the actual nuts and bolts of obtaining a licence, send me an E-mail. Even for an established bank to obtain a licence in another jurisdiction is not a walk in the park.
And whilst the Malaysian election may be used as an excuse for all sorts of things, Central Banks are largely apolitical. Changes in government (and the Malaysian government has not changed, merely lost its overwhelming majority) have no effect upon the workings of a Central Bank and I don't believe Malaysia is any exception.